Local query tools on Windows 2000 Professional?

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Rene Pijlman

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Mar 1, 2003, 7:54:09 PM3/1/03
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Hello,

Are there any query tools I can use on Windows 2000 Professional
to query an IS catalog?

I find "My Computer / Manage / Services and Applications /
Indexing service / catalog / Query the catalog" somewhat clumsy.
Is there any way to make a shortcut to this query form?

I'm not running a web server, I just want to search for
documents on my own laptop. "Start / Search / For files or
folders" doesn't seem to actually use the IS catalog (it's
painfully slow).

TIA.

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Carrie Garth

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Mar 3, 2003, 7:41:33 AM3/3/03
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Hi René,

As for a shortcut to the query form, here are 3 options:

Option1. Type this command in the Start > Run box: ciadv.msc

Option 2. Click on an icon after you create this shortcut to the Indexing Service
Console: C:\WINNT\system32\ciadv.msc

Option 3. Create a customized Microsoft Management Console that shows only the "Query
the Catalog" page and the Main Menu Bar. Then use your usual method for accessing
frequently used programs, like creating a shortcut to it on your Desktop or Start
Menu. (Note: You can customize ciadv.msc by opening it in "Author" mode; however,
IMO it is best to leave it "as is" for use in administering the Indexing Service):

1. Click Start, click Run, type "ciadv.msc /a" (without the quotes) and click OK
2. Expand the console tree as necessary to get to the "Query the Catalog" page
3. Right-click "Query the Catalog" and click "New Window from Here"
4. Click the "Show/Hide Console Tree/Favorites" button to hide the console tree
5. Click the View menu, click Customize, and uncheck "Standard menus..." and
"Standard toolbar"
6. Now "Save As" your custom console, clicking "Yes" when as asked if you want to
...display a single window interface...

Carrie

david lee

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Mar 3, 2003, 4:41:38 PM3/3/03
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If the Windows shell (start / search) determines the index is at all out of
date it doesn't use Indexing Service. If you precede the query with a "!"
then it'll force use of Indexing Service.

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Rene Pijlman

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Mar 3, 2003, 6:21:00 PM3/3/03
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david lee:

>If the Windows shell (start / search) determines the index is
>at all out of date it doesn't use Indexing Service.

Ah, I see, thanks. And for some reason this occurs frequently.
Perhaps when I update a file and Index Server is paused because
it has detected "user is active". But even when I've set
indexing to "instant" IS remains in state "active" for quite
some time, perhaps because its running with a lower priority.
Funny tool this IS :-)

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Rene Pijlman

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Mar 3, 2003, 6:21:02 PM3/3/03
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Carrie Garth:

>Option 3. Create a customized Microsoft Management Console that shows
>only the "Query the Catalog" page and the Main Menu Bar.

This is great, just what I was looking for! Thanks Carrie.

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Hilary Cotter

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Mar 3, 2003, 10:17:36 PM3/3/03
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set up your IS as a dedicate server. Do this by expanding the Computer
Mangement icon, locating the indexing services node, right clicking on it
and stopping is. Then right click again select all tasks and tune
performance. then select dedicated server or if you are running Win2k pro,
select used often.

Then restart IS.

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Rene Pijlman

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Mar 4, 2003, 4:40:02 AM3/4/03
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Hilary Cotter:

>set up your IS as a dedicate server. Do this by expanding the Computer
>Mangement icon, locating the indexing services node, right clicking on it
>and stopping is. Then right click again select all tasks and tune
>performance. then select dedicated server or if you are running Win2k pro,
>select used often.
>
>Then restart IS.

Thanks. I've done this on Win2K Pro.

But still, when I change a word document somewhere in a
catalogued directory, the search for files or folders screen
says: "Index service is currently building an index of files..."
for 20 seconds or so. And during this time any search results in
a slow full disk scan.

Is this the normal behaviour of IS?

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Hilary Cotter

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Mar 4, 2003, 8:44:12 PM3/4/03
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well on a faster machine and depending on the size of the document is should
be faster. Still 20 seconds is pretty fast. Do you need better performance?
If you do I would suggest you download a white paper called Tuning Indexing
Services which you should find on this newsgroup.

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Rene Pijlman

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Mar 5, 2003, 4:56:35 AM3/5/03
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Hilary Cotter:

>well on a faster machine and depending on the size of the document is should
>be faster. Still 20 seconds is pretty fast. Do you need better performance?

I expect an end user search tool to work all the time, even if
it happens to be busy parsing a new document in the background.

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