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Barton

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May 13, 2002, 7:08:16 PM5/13/02
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Hi there!

I'm a bit confused 'cause of all the different terms used in this news
group. I've implemented a WYSIWYG editor into my content management
system and i only used some DHTML and javascript to implement it.
Main command is: execCommand.

Now, when reading the news in this website I heard about MSHTML and
about the fact that the DHTML module will not be supported any more in
future. What is MSHTML, I've never heard about it. What will not be
supported in future any more, DHTML?

Other people add properties to the <PARAM> tags, but I don't have such
tags, why not?
Some people develop in VB, or C or C++, but how is this possible? I
can only use JavaScript. I'm missing a link somewhere here...

What is this al about? It seems I didn't really know what I was doing
while implementing the WYSIWYG browser based editor, can someone
please clear things out for me?

Thanx!

Barton

bernhard.schelling

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May 14, 2002, 4:53:59 AM5/14/02
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Hi Barton

There are two different ways of implementing DhtmlEditing
both include dhtml

Before IE 5.5 you couldn't use the attribute "contenteditable" -
instead you had to use an ActiveX Control named Dhtml Editing Component.
When using this ActiveX you can use this param values

<object ID="tbContentElement" CLASS="tbContentElement"
CLASSID="clsid:2D360201-FFF5-11d1-8D03-00A0C959BC0A">
<param name="SourceCodePreservation" value="true">
</object>
This active X is now no longer supported by microsoft

> Some people develop in VB, or C or C++, but how is this possible? I
> can only use JavaScript. I'm missing a link somewhere here...

you can program activex in this languages

What you probably are using is MSHTML -- the "contenteditable=true" thing

hth
bernhard schelling


daniel

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May 14, 2002, 7:50:55 AM5/14/02
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if this activex we are using is not supported anymore what is the proper one
then ?

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bernhard.schelling

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May 14, 2002, 8:05:04 AM5/14/02
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hi

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> if this activex we are using is not supported anymore what is the proper
one
> then ?

i've been working with the Dhtml Editing Component for 2 years now and it
obviously has some annoying bugs - i would have switched to MSHTML
some time ago if i believed in no bugs there.
sooner or later though i will have to switch to MSHTML too - just like
anybody :)
regards
bernhard schelling

Stev

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May 15, 2002, 12:45:25 AM5/15/02
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Hi Barton,

like you I work in javascript and you can do quite a bit with it and the DEC.
There are several things involved but you can build a pretty cool editor no probs.

Best thing to do is download Microsofts SDK for DEC which you'll find at their site.
Go to the MSN library and in the left frame expand the Web Developement
menu item then go HTML --> Dynamic HTML -->SDK Documentation-->
It'll be around here somewhere.

I've built an editor called Webpage-Wiz and while I've turned it into an executable
it's all javascript. It's yet to be released but anyone can download it at
www.webpage-wiz.com/downloads/ww10.exe (660kb) It requires IE5.5+

The .hta file is the equivelant to a .htm file and
the .htc files are the equivilent to .js files

It's the first version and there is still much to do but it should give you an idea of what's possible.
Any feedback is welcome.

There are also some other fantastic editors developed by dudes on this list too, maybe sift through
some of the messages to find reference to them.

hth

Stev

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Paulo Abreu

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May 15, 2002, 11:54:20 AM5/15/02
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Meanwhile, Daniel asked:

"if this activex we are using is not supported anymore what is the proper
one then ?"

For those using DHTML ActiveX control ... how would they switch to MSHTML,
is there any ActiveX? ... is MSHTML programming based on dragging a control
to a edit box and programming it as in DHTML control?

Thanks,

Paulo Abreu


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Jon Davis

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May 30, 2002, 8:39:06 PM5/30/02
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Old Editor:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnaredcom/h
tml/dhtmledcom.asp

Current Editor ("bubbles" events like onmousedown to its container, i.e. the
parent VB6 form; soon to be obsoleted?):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/edit/default.asp

Now recommended Editor (but does not "bubble" events like onmousedown to its
container, i.e. the parent VB6 form, which is stupid):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/browser/editing/mshtmleditor.asp

- Jon


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Jon Davis

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May 30, 2002, 8:46:46 PM5/30/02
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Oops, sorry, the first two links went to the same place. Anyway, it's all
the same editor. It's not discontinued, it's just not supported anymore.
And it's still better than MSHTML because it raises important editor-related
events.

Jon

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