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Sunil Sinha

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Hi guys:

Now that we are done with discussing baseball and cricket, how about
someone telling me how to design (in IC) a text message with borders
that look like they have been burnt by fire.

Any ideas? And if you think it's a stupid idea then say so too. I just
want to get off this baseball and cricket discussion, although I must
say I love both games.

Sunil Sinha


----Kyall----

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Burnt by fire, hm....

That one is tough using just MIC effects -- although with a bit of artistic
work it could be accomplished.

However, I'm sure that experimenting with Impressionist could lead to some
good results.

I'll post my results later today (off to school...)

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Ulysses

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Sunil -

Just a question for you asking for clarification before everyone starts
posting up all of their burnt images. :)

Are you asking for:
1. Text with just the edges looking burned
2. Completely burned text
3. Text on fire
4. Text on a rectangular background, the background being on fire

Lots of options there. Many ways to do them all.

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Sunil Sinha

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Ulysses:

I meant option 1 as listed by you. Sorry for not putting it more clearly.

Regards, Sunil

Ulysses

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Hi Sunil -

As a favor to some of the others who can't read it without problems, would
you mind changing your Netscape newsreader's posting properties to plain
text rather than HTML? I'm sure that those who get funny characters and
other problems would appreciate it as this is standard practice currently
for newsgroups.

Occasionally, when warranted for long explanations with bulleted lists or
words that I want to highlight, I will also post in HTML, but as a general
rule, I turn it off for the sake of the group.

One day, we'll all have the more advanced newsreaders. And then we can
conquer the world with our fancy fonts! :)

Again, thanks for getting us back on track with the sort of topics we love
most --- those about Image Composer and graphics!

Mark Lookabaugh

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:42:07 -0400, Sunil Sinha <ssi...@negia.net>
wrote:

>Hi guys:
>
>Now that we are done with discussing baseball and cricket, how about
>someone telling me how to design (in IC) a text message with borders
>that look like they have been burnt by fire.

Try applying the glass filter with distortion=1 and smoothness=2, with
surface type=frosted, scaling=100%.

That looks fairly close, and has the benefit of being quick and easy.


Another way would be to find (or create) a background texture that has
burned areas, and then use the map color command to transfer the
background onto the letters. Then you could snip out bits of your
letters here and there to simulate the "burned out" areas.

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Sunil Sinha

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Hi Ulysses:

Sorry about that. I just did (or at least I think I did) what you asked.
I was not aware of this problem. Thanks for letting me know. Let me know
if there is still problem with this message.

Sunil

Tom Pepper

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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There is still a problem.

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Mark Lookabaugh

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:51:02 -0400, "Ulysses" <ash...@orn.net> wrote:

>Mark -
>
>Where'd you come from? :)

A refugee from sci.military.naval. ;-)

Ulysses

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Sunil -

I'm afraid the problem persists.

Let me tell you what is happening at least on my end of the newsreader.
Now, I use Outlook Express, so I ordinarily have no problem reading
HTML-encoded messages.

When I read your posts, I am not sure of what font is being used. But it is
not Arial or Times New Roman or one of the more common fonts. Ordinarily I
wouldn't mind at all. But what happens is that even when I go to read
someone else's messages, this font is retained. Switching to further
messages does not get rid of this formatting of my newsreader message
window. In fact, I have to leave the group and then come back in so that my
normal reading is restored. All is fine until I read another message in the
same thread, which messages are ALL somehow infected with this curse.

No offense to you is at all intended, but at this point you can probably
understand my consternation. One message or so isn't a problem, but when
all messages in the thread affect my entire session, then it gets to be a
problem.

sven

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Using OE5, and no problem here, Sunil's posts don't appear to be HTML. OE4 had some well documented "issues" with changing font settings.

Try going to View | Language and make sure you're set for Western Alphabet. You might also need to go to View | Fonts and adjust the size.

I need to go look this one up as it's been a long time since I encountered it, in the meantime how about posting a screenshot of what you see...

I thought they had fixed this problem in the final release of OE4, but I see Sunil is using netscape ver 4.5b2, maybe that's what's causing it...

sven

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Ulysses

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Sven -

>>... but I see Sunil is using netscape ver 4.5b2, maybe that's what's
causing it...<<

Yeah, I believe that is the problem. I thought this was fixed in other
versions of Mozilla, but it looks like it's back. All of my settings have
remained the same, and other NS users with earlier versions do not exhibit
this behavior.

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sven

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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I thought so - here's the relevant text from Eric Miller's OE site.
http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe

It's a well known OE4 bug - seems to be fixed in OE5 as I'm not encountering it...

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Several issues regarding character sets plague users of OE. Listed below are a few that I consistently encounter.

Cyrillic Messages Some mail clients send Cyrillic messages with tags indicating that they are in a western European character set. As a result, OE uses a western-European font to display the message, which then appears garbled. To work around this problem, go to View | Language and choose a Russian character set, such as K0I8. The message should display properly using the Russian font.

Don't Send Character Set Information If you'd rather not send character set information with your messages (which would be a rational alternative after reading the issues on this page :-)), select Uuencode rather than MIME under Tools | Options | Send | Mail/News | Plain Text | Settings. In that case, no character set information is included in the message.
,
Extra Characters Many OE users have complained that their messages, after sending, include several characters that they did not add themselves. This can happen for one or more of several reasons:

1. Keyboard Mapping. If you have inadvertently enabled a keyboard mapping option, you may find that your messages contain extra characters. Go to Tools | Options| Read | International Settings and if a mapping option that you do not remember setting up is listed there, delete it.

2. Default Character Set. For users of the English version of OE, the default character set should be Western under Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Character Set. What complicates things here is that when you check this, is may show that Western is in fact your default character set. Try closing OE and rebooting your computer -- for reasons no one completely understands, changes to fonts and character sets often don't take effect until you reboot. When you reopen OE, open a Compose Message window and click on View | Language and there should be a bullet next to Western.

3. Received Message Uses Character Set Other than Western. With OE being used all over the world, many folks are experimenting with character sets other than Western, e.g., UTF-7, UTF-8, User Defined, etc. If you receive a message that has been sent with a character set other than your default character set, the only way to switch back to your default when replying to that message is to go to Format | Language. Unfortunately, you often won't realize that the formatting is messed up until you later see the message posted in a newsgroup or the mail recipient so notifies you.

Fonts Appear to Change on Their Own Many users have reported that when they receive message from certain senders, that message seems to change the font that you use in OE. what is happening here is that the sender likely is using a different character set than what is set as the default on your computer. The way to deal with this issue is to highlight a message header from the sender, click on View | Language and change the Language in that message from whatever it is to Western Alphabet. You'll get a pop-up menu asking you if you really want to do this, to which you should respond by clicking on "yes." Then, exit from your Inbox for a moment, or, if that doesn't work, close and reopen OE, go back to your Inbox and highlight the message header again and all should be well. What this causes OE to do is to remap the character set in messages that you received in the character set that your sender is using to Western (can be European or Alphabet), which is the default for most US users. OE records this remapping under Tools | Options | Read | International Settings.

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sven

Ulysses

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Sven -

My MAN!!!!

Happy reading is here again! You know, I checked that same resource, but I
must have overlooked the fix completely.

Thank you very much.

sven

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Glad it helped. The page I quoted was kind of buried and you needed to know what was causing the problem before you could even find it. I believe that was from the Character Set Issued page in the Message Formatting section. I got there by following a link in the Character Set Issues page in the Bugs section.

BTW, it might not be fixed in OE5, I just checked my International settings and I have a user-defined -> Western remap in there, so I must have fixed this same problem at sometime in the past and just forgot about it (or maybe this was a carry over from when I upgraded from OE4)

sven

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