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Red the vampire girl

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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awwwwwwwwwwwww! This is begining to wind me up!!!!!

Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal scrollbar on this page -

www.subhuman.net click on MUSIC. From the list of graphic titles, choose
"Discography". I CANNOT get this stupid page to work. Firstly is looks weird
in netscape (hey, but doesn't everything), secondly in IE and NS I get a
scroll bar, which I don't want!!!!! I can't put noscroll in the frame set as
I NEED to be able to scroll virtically. :(

The whole site was created in FP98, and I'm testing with Netscape 4.51 and
Internet Explorer 5.

Mirri
going mad

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Elizabeth Stapel

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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"Red the vampire girl" <r...@subhuman.net> wrote:

>Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal

>scrollbar on this page:


>www.subhuman.net click on MUSIC. From the list of

>graphic titles, choose "Discography"...

You mean: click on "push to enter". Then, in the
smaller popup box, chose "music" from the side bar,
then "Discography" from the main frame.

Your image gif, b-disco400.gif, is too long, and
is forcing the scroll. Shorten it, and the hori-
zontal scrollbar should disappear.


Eliz. Stapel
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Red the vampire girl

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Thanks for looking - I should have explained in more detail how to get to
the page (sorry!)


Anyway, regarding your solution - That's exactly what I thought at frist -
however the image is 442 pixels wide, and the frame is 466 pixels!!! It's
abackground image anyway - as far as I know, backgrounds can't cause scroll
bars to appear.

Also the image at the top matches the frame with to the pixel, so it's not
that.

I was wondering if it had anything to do with the <div> statements that FP
puts through the code? Why has FP put them there? I'm sure they're not
required. If it's not this, then have I done something weird to the table?

Heeeeeyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeelp! before I loose my last shreds of sanity (erm.. my
work mates might already say that's happened).

Mirri
(frustrated)

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Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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The picture is forcing a horizontal scroll. Needs to be smaller.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

On Thu, 27 May 1999 10:09:08 +0100, "Red the vampire girl"
<r...@subhuman.net> wrote:

>awwwwwwwwwwwww! This is begining to wind me up!!!!!
>

>Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal scrollbar on this page -


>
>www.subhuman.net click on MUSIC. From the list of graphic titles, choose

Elizabeth Stapel

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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"Red the vampire girl" <r...@subhuman.net> wrote:
>> >Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal
>> >scrollbar on this page: www.subhuman.net

>>
>> Your image gif, b-disco400.gif, is too long, and
>> is forcing the scroll. Shorten it, and the hori-
>> zontal scrollbar should disappear.
>
>...the image is 442 pixels wide, and the frame is
>466 pixels!!!

I stand corrected. I had thought that the other
image (containing the CD image) was inside a table,
which it is, but I hadn't realized that the image
included the black background. The image ends up
being 466 pixels wide, inside a table set at 100%,
and the image is set at "center", which occasion-
ally seems to force width where there shouldn't be
any, which might explain why the header to the
frame (the image with the CD) is offset by a pixel
or two to the right of what follows. Try redoing
that image, and set the table cells to the back-
ground color you want.

Red the vampire girl

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!

The picture was sat inside the top row of a zero-border table. Whatever I
did, despite the image being less wide than the frame, the scroll bar
appeared.

By MOVING the picture OUT of the table, so it was sat above the table, the
scroll bars vanished. This is in both Netscape 4.51 and IE 5. This, I guess
is a bug in both browsers. I triple check that the table has no borders, and
that the page margins are zeroed.

Took me AGES to fix that, what a downer! :(

Oh well, works now.

Mirri
@ subhuman.net


Red the vampire girl <r...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
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> awwwwwwwwwwwww! This is begining to wind me up!!!!!
>
> Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal scrollbar on this page -
>
> www.subhuman.net click on MUSIC. From the list of graphic titles, choose
> "Discography". I CANNOT get this stupid page to work. Firstly is looks
weird
> in netscape (hey, but doesn't everything), secondly in IE and NS I get a
> scroll bar, which I don't want!!!!! I can't put noscroll in the frame set
as
> I NEED to be able to scroll virtically. :(
>
> The whole site was created in FP98, and I'm testing with Netscape 4.51 and
> Internet Explorer 5.
>
> Mirri
> going mad
>

Red the vampire girl

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Thanks Elizabeth. I've sorta come to the same conclusion about "centred"
images. I cured it by pulling the image out of the table and lopping off the
right hand edge by 30 odd pixels. It looks fine in IE now, and there is a
one pixel misalignment in Netscape, but I guess I can live with this for
now.

Cheers,

Mirri


Elizabeth Stapel <stapel@*nospam*earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> "Red the vampire girl" <r...@subhuman.net> wrote:
> >> >Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal

J.Tavares

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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Hey Red, glad to hear you got a solution. Just thought I would let you
know you spelled "prepairing" wrong on your site. It's "preparing". I
know, I'm picky, but I'm only telling you because I know I would want
someone to tell me.

Take care,

Jennifer

Red the vampire girl wrote:
>
> Thanks for looking - I should have explained in more detail how to get to
> the page (sorry!)
>
> Anyway, regarding your solution - That's exactly what I thought at frist -
> however the image is 442 pixels wide, and the frame is 466 pixels!!! It's
> abackground image anyway - as far as I know, backgrounds can't cause scroll
> bars to appear.
>
> Also the image at the top matches the frame with to the pixel, so it's not
> that.
>
> I was wondering if it had anything to do with the <div> statements that FP
> puts through the code? Why has FP put them there? I'm sure they're not
> required. If it's not this, then have I done something weird to the table?
>
> Heeeeeyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeelp! before I loose my last shreds of sanity (erm.. my
> work mates might already say that's happened).
>
> Mirri
> (frustrated)
>

> Elizabeth Stapel <stapel@*nospam*earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:374d38e3...@news.earthlink.net...


> > "Red the vampire girl" <r...@subhuman.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Anyone know why I can't get rid of the horizontal
> > >scrollbar on this page:

> > >www.subhuman.net click on MUSIC. From the list of

> > >graphic titles, choose "Discography"...
> >
> > You mean: click on "push to enter". Then, in the
> > smaller popup box, chose "music" from the side bar,
> > then "Discography" from the main frame.
> >

> > Your image gif, b-disco400.gif, is too long, and
> > is forcing the scroll. Shorten it, and the hori-
> > zontal scrollbar should disappear.
> >
> >

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