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Dyawlak

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Jun 2, 2006, 6:23:58 AM6/2/06
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For the last 10yrs+ I have been a Paradox (DOS/Windows) developer. With Corel's reluctance to invest time and money in to, what I believe, is a damn good product. I decided to teach myself V FP.  What's the best book(s) to assist in learning to program in version 9?
 
 
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Josh Assing

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Jun 2, 2006, 12:21:29 PM6/2/06
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I like hte Henzelwerk books.
A book on 7 or 8 would also "get you going" if you found one on yahoo.


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Doug Dodge

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Jun 2, 2006, 9:40:00 AM6/2/06
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There are quite a few. A great place to start would be www.hentzenwerke.com
 
Best,
 
DD

tony_becky_mikey_verizon_news

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Jun 19, 2006, 8:23:58 PM6/19/06
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Not to rain on the Foxpro parade here, but maybe you should be looking at Oracle & SQL Server products.. Foxpro is not exactly the product you jump to.. Most people using it have been using it for a while, hence they move to new versions when it comes out..
 
Just offering up a differing opinion here folks okay?
 
 
For the last 10yrs+ I have been a Paradox (DOS/Windows) developer. With Corel's reluctance to invest time and money in to, what I believe, is a damn good product. I decided to teach myself V FP.  What's the best book(s) to assist in learning to program in version 9?
 
 
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Craig Berntson

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Jun 20, 2006, 10:16:54 AM6/20/06
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Even with Oracle or SQL Server, you still need something for the front-end application. Why not VFP?

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Craig Berntson
MCSD, Visual FoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
 
 
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tony_becky_mikey_verizon_news

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Jun 30, 2006, 12:10:07 AM6/30/06
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Craig,
  A simple fact.. Foxpro is not the best front end client for SQL Server or Oracle..  I am using an Oracle product called App Express to build Web based front ends to an Oracle Schema.  The requirements involve needing a thin client (App Express uses PL/SQL and HTML/CSS to build apps in the database)  No app server need since the database server process the requests!!  Ohh, and with Oracle 10g Express I can build web based applications for clients for a lot less (no cost for the database or development tool)!!.
 
In its day, Foxpro was nice, but its starting to show its age.. The days of it being a product to recommend to people is past.  I can not recommend it to people..  As soon as people ask me why it's not part of the .net package they don't wanna touch it for SQL Server work..
 
Tony Miller
Monroe, WA
 
 
 

Josh Assing

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Jun 30, 2006, 1:09:12 AM6/30/06
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wow -- I would rather use a true application, than a "web interface to a
schema".

FoxPro is a VERY capable front end for sql servers.

Craig Berntson

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Jun 30, 2006, 10:46:14 AM6/30/06
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Tony,
 
Using or not using VFP and it being/not being a good C/S front end is not a yes/no proposition. It depends on your needs, skill sets, and other variables. Many people have successfully deployed West Wind applications and are accessing SQL Server, Oracle, and other data via the web. It may very well be a good solution for the original poster. Again, it may not. Without knowing more about the needs, there is no way to know. In the same sense, Oracle and Oracle tools may or may not work for him.
 
The fact that you are using Oracle tools does not cause me to change my statement. You still have an Oracle database, but happen to be using Oracle tools for the front-end. Really that's no different than using SQL Server for the database and using Microsoft tools for the front end.
 
As for no cost db and dev tools, don't get too overly excited. Microsoft has free tools too. Open Sores has many others.

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Craig Berntson
MCSD, Visual FoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
 
 
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tony_becky_mikey_verizon_news

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Jun 30, 2006, 8:46:06 PM6/30/06
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Josh,
It is an application. It is based upon PL/SQL code and HTML.. Before you
pass judgment, you should check it out..


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tony_becky_mikey_verizon_news

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Jun 30, 2006, 8:52:19 PM6/30/06
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Craig,
  I am sorry to disagree.  We have been in communications for a number of years (I remember when you worked in Columbia Falls, MT) and in that time Foxpro has pretty much stayed the same (Visual Foxpro 3, 5,6...) There have been some small changes, but it is still a fat client product that does not do web interfaces well..
 
Please tell me this, why is it that MS is not pushing the envelope with VFP?  I can not sell a product like that to customers, if MS is not even going to push the product like .NET..  The people I do work for like Oracle and some SQL Server applications, they expect a web front-end for their products..
 
I can produce web applications using .NET on the SQL Server end, and on the Oracle end using App Express or maybe Java if the application requirements need that..
 
As I said to Josh, give it a try, all you have to waste is a little time, and maybe you might like the product.
 
Oracle is pushing it as their MS Access killer, and I agree with them on that!
 
 
'nuff said..
 

Craig Berntson

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Jul 5, 2006, 10:27:10 AM7/5/06
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My objections to Oracle is not as a product, but the corporate culture, lead by Larry Ellison. As long as that exists, I don't do anything from Oracle.
 
As for VFP not being pushed by Microsoft, that's been addressed ad-nasium in various forums and I won't get into it again here. But rather than trying to understand the marketing side, learn about the technical differences between COM and .Net and the reasons may come to you.

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Craig Berntson
MCSD, Visual FoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
 
 
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bai

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Jul 12, 2006, 1:25:33 PM7/12/06
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For the last 10yrs+ I have been a Paradox (DOS/Windows) developer. With Corel's reluctance to invest time and money in to, what I believe, is a damn good product. I decided to teach myself V FP.  What's the best book(s) to assist in learning to program in version 9?
 
 
Thanks
warwer
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