Third Party Access

[Templar]

I would like to give a friend limited access to developing a specific page on
my website. I can imagine that might require that I create a separate
password for that specific page........possibly. Could someone give me some
direction in how to accomplish this? Thanks.
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Templar

[KathyW]

You can create the page in a separate folder, and set up a separate FTP
username and password for that directory only. (Ask your host if it's not
clear in your control panel how you can do that.) You friend could then
publish changes to that page, and even create other pages linked to it in
that directory, but could not publish changes to other areas of your site.
[This assumes your friend has EW or some other website development tool and
knows how to publish via FTP.]

[Templar]

Thank you Kathy. Possibly you can shed some light on a couple other problems.
When I publish the site in ExpressionWeb, I publish it to an ftp site. In
the ExpressionWeb side by side (local/remote) screen, there is a /%2f added
to the websites ftp name on the remote (right) side of the screen, but he
actual website name does not contain the /%2f.

I set up the additional FTP User Name and Password, but when I do a test run
of the User Name and Password, it accesses the site, but no folder appears on
the screen. At the host, I had typed in the "path" to the folder for the
additional FTP User tp access but that folder does not show up on the screen.
I suspect that the weird /%2f has something to do with it? Maybe not?

What do you think is going on here? Thanks.
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Templar

[Templar]

Possibly I should ask what my friend should be doing to access the page using
her assigned user name and password. I am trying to give it a trial run to
make sure it works before I send her the user name and password. I have been
unsuccessful in accessing the folder using her user name and password.
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Templar

[KathyW]

"%2F" is encoding for the "/" No idea why you are seeing it like that.

I can say is that in EW, remember to set the publishing information to the
right directory for the subdirectory account. E.g., for the main site the
FTP settings would have an FTP directory of wwwroot (or whichever root
directory name your host uses - there are several variations), while the FTP
settings your friend would use for their FTP account would be the path to the
subfolder you have pointed the FTP account to: wwwroot\friend if "friend"
was the name of the folder.

And, of course, a folder won't appear until you create it. Have you? (You
can simply create it in EW and publish the folder, empty or not).

[Templar]

Thanks again Kathy. Yes, I have created a folder and put the subject page
into that folder along with its accompanying images. I presume that in order
for my friend to access that folder she would use the name of that folder.

I'm trying to access the file myself to make sure things are working
properly. When I open EW, I click on FILE and then OPEN and then type the
websites name beginning with ftp:// and ending with the name of the folder
after the final /.

When I click enter, a "sign in" box comes up and I put in the User Name I
gave her along with the password I assigned and click ok/enter. A blank
"sign in" box pops back up with the following message:
FTP transmits the user name and password without encryption. If possible,
open the Web site by using an HTTP URL to help protect it from potential
network attacks.

I try again and nothing happens.

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Templar

[Templar]

I've gotten to the point where, after clicking on FILE and then OPEN, I type
in the ftp address and, after dealing with two password dialog boxes, appear
to bring up the page I want my friend to access. HOWEVER, when I open the
page, it does not contain the DWT Format (header, content, footer and so
forth).

Any ideas as to why this is happening? Should I be including other files
within the
folder being accessed by the third party?

[KathyW]

If you don't understand how to do FTP to a specific folder, it won't do any
good to try and explain it to your friend. I already explained all I can:
Set up the new FTP account to apply to the subdirectory only, and correctly
define the new FTP directory in EW's publishing setup. Your host will have
to help you if you can't figure out how to do the first part - that's not an
EW function. The second part is part of setting up any site publishing with
EW.

[KathyW]

It sounds like you are asking your friend to edit the page live, rather than
making local changes and publishing them. I never edit live, so what will or
will not work in a password protected directory editing via FTP is something
you'll have to figure out.

[Templar]

I'm confident that I have the FTP account set up correctly. I guess I was a
little confused about where she would be working on the page. If she is
going to work on the page on her computer before publishing, doesn't that
mean I have to load my website onto her computer in order for her to be able
to work on the website on the local host as I do? Or do I simply provide her
with a limited portion of my website? Or is it a matter of her being able to
import that page using her user name and password?

It sounds like the use of her user name and password is limited publishing
her revisions directly to the website.
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Templar

[KathyW]

You would provide her with a limited amount of your website.

Try is on your own local copy: Create the subfolder and move the page(s)
into it. Right-click that folder and "Convert to subsite". Double-click the
folder and it will open as a new site in EW. Set the Publishing properties
to the new FTP account and the correct FTP directory into the subfolder on
the host.

Now, if everything those pages need are in the subfolder, she only needs a
copy of the subfolder. If those pages references folders outside the
subfolder (CSS, images, DWT), she'd need copies of those as well. NOTE that
changes you make to those will not affect her local copy of her pages unless
you send her new copies every time you make a change. Changes to images and
CSS files will affect her pages once they are published, since the browser
will reference your new copies on the host, but changes to DWTs are
incorporated at design time, and would not be reflected in her pages unless
you sent her a copy of the new DWT and she reopened her page and let the
chagnes apply.

[Cheryl D Wise]

You might be better off looking at something like Content Seed to let her
edit via her browser only the page(s) you give her access to. While Content
Seed is inexpensive I believe there are some open source (free) alternatives
available as well.

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Cheryl D Wise
http://by-expression.com

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[Stefan B Rusynko]

You should open a site File Open Site (or EW3 look under the Sites menu),
- not just a page

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[Templar]

Thank you Kathy. If you are not a teacher, you would make an excellent
teacher. Your answer aniticipated what would have undoubtedly been a number
of follow-up questions. And so.........if I understand you correctly, I
create a folder and populate it with the page (to which I want to provde her
access) along with supporting assets such as the images folder, buttons
folder, borders folder, master dwt...............stuff like that.

This would permit her to maintain the page true to the website while
adding/editing information and the page when published would conform to the
original website design. But I suspect that she should publish only the page
in question and not the accompanying files/folders?...........in other words,
mark the other assets "don't publish"?

One she does the additions/editing, she can then publish the website using
the user name and password assigned to her..........................right?
Is this what you are saying?

By the way, when I right clicked on the folder, there was no option
permitting "convert to subsite". It simply said, "convert to website". I
assume that this is the equivalent?

Finally, do you have any suggestions as to how I might send her this folder?
Will I need to copy it to a cd and give it to her.

Thanks again Kathy. Your help is greatly appreciated.

[Templar]

Thank you Cheryl. I've never heard of "content seed". Could you direct me
to a resource that explains/provides this idea?
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Templar

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[Tina Clarke]

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> Thank you Cheryl. I've never heard of "content seed". Could you direct
> me
> to a resource that explains/provides this idea?
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> Templar

She means the cms http://contentseed.com/ and the customer service is very
good. Try the trial and see if it suits your needs.

Tina
Free Expression Web Toolbar - Expression Web and Web Design Resources
http://frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-community-toolbar.html
Just posted new links to the toolbar - Make YOUR suggestions
Will work in FireFox IE and Safari

[KathyW]

Google ContentSeed. You'll find it.

[Templar]

Hi Kathy:

Can you do anything with this problem?

I'm trying to insert some code from the ProvideSupport.com website. The code
is meant to produce the necessary icons that will permit people to chat live
with an operator at a website. When I copy the code into the code of the
master.dwt that I am creating in EW, it will not produce the desired results
as no icons appear on the Design Page. When I save it, it will not ask me if
I want to distribute it to all 23 pages as it does when I make other changes
to the dwt.

Additional possibly relevant information may include the fact that I am
trying to copy the javascript code into a div and place the icon in the
verticle navagation bar on the left side of the pagee. ............. however
I am not sure why this would make a difference.

Anyone out there who can enlighten me. thanks.

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Templar

[Ronx]

This has nothing to do with CMS or third party access - you should stick
with your own threads (now multiple) and not hijack others'.
See answers to your latest thread.
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Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

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[Templar]

How can I hijack my own thread?
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Templar

"Ronx" wrote:

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[Ronx]

The topic of this thread is Third Party access, not adding Javascript to a
DWT.

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Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
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