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NFL 05 NFL

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Jun 5, 2002, 10:34:41 PM6/5/02
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Hello all,

I realize you get a lot of questions about which books to buy and yada yada,
and yes I have searched Deja. My question is a bit different.

I just purchased the book called "Programming ASP.NET" by O'Reilly and written
by Jesse Liberty and Dan Hurwitz. I have 2 questions...

1. I read the first part of the book and it states "we assume you have some
background with either C# or VB.NET which I do not have. I should have looked
closer. I do have college experience with Visual Basic 6.0 and C++ but by no
means am I any good at either. I consider myself a programming newbie.
SO...should I look for another book, more of a beginners book or is this book
okay to start with? And if not, can you recommend a good beginners toolbox?

2. I notice the newer books out say stuff such as "learn asp.net 1.0" rather
than just "learn asp.net." What is the difference between ASP.NET and ASP.NET
1.0 ? And if there is a difference should I get a asp.net 1.0 beginners book
instead? Again, if so, any recommendations?

Thanks a bunch!

Baldy

Matthew White

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Jun 5, 2002, 11:34:56 PM6/5/02
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I'm not so sure about what books would be approperate, but (i assume) that
anybook that doesn't define the version number would of been created before
the v1.0 build of visual studio was released and therefore a beta, therefore
some of the data inside could be wrong / misleading.

The rule of thumb is read the intro paragraph & do some research on the book
before purchase making sure it's what you do need and is for the release
version

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Steven A Smith [MVP]

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Jun 6, 2002, 1:06:36 AM6/6/02
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1. For VB.NET, ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther is awesome. Even if
you're going with C#, it has a lot of great content. That said, I'm also
partial to my own book, ASP.NET By Example, which has examples in both
languages(not all examples in the book are in both languages, but all
examples are in both languages online) and all examples work online (so you
don't have to wonder if it's code that used to work in beta but doesn't work
now). You'll find them at these URLs:
ASP.NET Unleashed
http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672320681/stevenatorasp/
ASP.NET By Example
http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789725622/stevenatorasp/

2. If it doesn't say 1.0, it may be a beta (but not necessarily). Some
books came out specifically for the Beta versions of .NET. Others have been
published in multiple editions (like ASP.NET Unleashed). Still others were
released just before the release of the 1.0 product, and are up-to-date
despite not having "1.0" anywhere on them. .NET came out in early 2/02. It
was pretty much locked down by November 2001 as far as book authors were
concerned (we were getting interim pre-release builds to work with), so I'd
say anything with a release date before October or November 2001 might be
something to watch out for.

My $.02. Forgive the blatent plug of my own book...

Steve


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Cowboy (aka Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP]

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Jun 6, 2002, 10:11:18 AM6/6/02
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1. Not sure about this particular book, but it sounds like it may be a bit
more advanced. Jesse's books are generally very explicit, so I would not
rush out and buy another one unless you feel lost. If you do, the MSPress
Step-By-Step books are very nice to get started. I used to love the Wrox
books, as well, but I am a bit disappointed in the latest round, as being
first to market seems a bit too important.

2. ASP.NET 1.0 just means first release, which is the only version available
presently.

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Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]

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Jun 6, 2002, 10:23:08 PM6/6/02
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Not sure about #1, but #2 raises and interesting point.

There were a lot of books that were rushed to the market while ASP.NET was
still in beta. Naturally, there were changes in the product that didn't get
reflected in the books. I suspect that publishers are including "1.0" in their
titles to make it clear that the book has actually been written/tested against
ASP.NET 1.0 which is the only release version as of this writing.

Ken

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Jesse Liberty

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Jun 8, 2002, 8:33:10 AM6/8/02
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Thanks for the inquiry about our book. We do assume you know the
fundamentals of C# or VB.NET (all examples are in both). Since you don't,
you have two choices. You will almost certainly be able to "pick it up as
you go" given your other programming experience, but if you prefer to be
fully grounded before you begin, you might consider a primer. I also wrote
Programming C#, but there are many good primers for both C# and VB.NET; I'm
sure you'll get recommendations here. I will say that a number of folks
have written saying that Programming ASP.NET was explicit enough that they
could struggle through it without first reading a primer, but your mileage
may vary.

Please note that we provide extensive support for the book (faq, source
code, etc.) along with a private support discussion group, on my web site:
http://www.LibertyAssociates.com. If I can be of further help please do not
hesitate to ask, and I look forward to hearing what you think of the book.

Thanks again!

-j

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