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SW

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Jul 25, 2006, 5:43:02 AM7/25/06
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Hi,
I have been getting negative feedback from all users in our office regarding
CRM3 slow response and people are going to give up using it. I need to give
a solution to the team and wondering if anyone could help?

We are running on SBServer2003 network and have CRM3 installed on a seperate
2003 Windows Server with SQL2000 Server installed. The CRM server is Xeon
Dual 2.8Ghz, with 2GB ram, Raid 10 SCSI HDD and only have CRM running.

I don't know where to start to find out why it is slow... any suggestion?
If upgrading the hardware would help, we will do it, but I doubt this will
help as we checked the CPU usage, Ram usage, and network usage, they all have
plenty of rooms to move.

Please anyone any suggestion?
Sindy


Michael Höhne

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Jul 25, 2006, 10:03:27 AM7/25/06
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Sindy,

Is CRM slow all the time, or just on the first access? I notice the same
behavior (and I guess everybody does), but once the initial page is loaded,
CRM is very fast on our environment, and our system configuration is worse
than yours. We had some issues with an internal proxy server. Some of the
data transfered to/from CRM went through the proxy, so responses were deadly
slow. After adding the CRM server name and ip address to the list of
addresses that should bypass the proxy, we "only" face the slow performance
occasionally, but not in general.

Just a thought.

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Michael

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Nathan Warner

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Jul 26, 2006, 12:33:01 AM7/26/06
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Hi Sindy,

I have just posted somthing which may be of interest.
Post name "CRM speed enhancement!!"
Have a look, hope it helps you.

Regards,
Nathan Warner

Michael Seifert

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Aug 18, 2006, 10:58:50 AM8/18/06
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I suggest you check if its client side or server side.

If its client side (using 100% CPU for several seconds between clicks), I
know the answer.

SW

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:52:01 PM8/20/06
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It's the client side slow. The CPU usage is not too high, just page slow load
up. Not sure if the Outlook file size would have any impact on the speed.
Some guys in the office never achieve their mail!

Michael Seifert

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Aug 21, 2006, 2:30:01 AM8/21/06
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Our problem is that primarily single CPU client machines, use 100% CPU for
about 2- 8 seconds, when viewing the contacts or accounts pages after a few
times (using IE).

Its a bug in the software somewhere. The problem is non-existant on dual CPU
or hyper-threaded CPU mahcines. Likewise, changing networking conditions to
e.g. connecting from home with a single CPU machine, changes the timing so
that the problem disappears.

If this is part of your problem, I suggest that you open a support case with
Microsoft.

Manisha Powar [MSFT]

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Sep 1, 2006, 12:58:02 PM9/1/06
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Here're a few reasons why this might be happening and some potential
workarounds you might want to try...

- Could be the initial JITting of web pages by ASP.NET

o Should be fine if you let the CRM system tray process run in the
background.

- Could be a known issue with email tagging + very large folders as
well

o Receiving new emails “freezes” the client for a few seconds)

o The workaround is to disable aggressive email tagging (see “perform
additional checks…” option under 'system settings --> Outlook
synchronization' )

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Manisha Powar
Program Manager,CRM

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Michael Seifert

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Sep 4, 2006, 3:10:02 AM9/4/06
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Hi Manisha,

I dont think you're right because:

1) Its hardly JIT. The 100% CPU is used on the client machines using IE
only. And it does not happen on the first clicks, but instead on successive
clicks. Problem disappears on hyper-threaded CPUs, or changed network latency.

2) No tray. No client software. Only IE. Nothing else. Which mutes all of
the remaining posts.

It looks to me like a client side deadlock timing problem, causing the local
CPU to go to 100% for 5-8 seconds (who knows, maybe its try to poll from the
server in a tight loop while being blocked for the 5-8 seconds) .

--Michael

Mike

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Apr 19, 2007, 6:52:00 AM4/19/07
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Hi,

We are experiencing similar problems.
If I click between the Accounts and Contacts Lists on the main menu
sometimes it takes around 1-2 seconds to change will other times takes 15-20
seconds.

During the longer refresh times my Client CPU maxes out at 100%.

I don't really see why it should take so much longer sometimes, it is really
degrading the user experience.

Did you reach any conclusions with your problem?

Best regards,
Mike

Michael Seifert

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Apr 19, 2007, 7:32:03 AM4/19/07
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We did find a solution. There is some folder or file that you must set
content-expiration for on the IIS installation for the CRM. Then the problem
disappears. I believe this was the mail that made us fix it,

Guys, I solved our problem for almost all users/computers:

In IIS, browse to the file '<crm virtual
dir>/_common/scripts/Stage.js', show properties, goto 'HTTP Headers'.
Check the 'Enable content expiration' checkbox, and select the 'Expire
immediately' option (now this file (5kb) will be retrieved for each
request, instead of caching it locally)

Now clear the temporary internet files of your local browser, and open
MSCRM again.

This solved our problem, for 2 MSCRM 3.0 installations for almost all
users (only one user still faces the same problem, but he will
reinstall his computer...:-)

Please let me know wat your experience is with this 'workaround'...

Thanks so far!

Regards,
Evert Jan

Mike

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Apr 19, 2007, 8:04:04 AM4/19/07
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I've just made this change and it appears to be working much better, wow the
difference is huge!

We have had this trouble all along and presumed it was just down to the much
talked about JIT caching.

If anyone from Microsoft is listening I'd recommend this workaround is
documented somewhere, it is such a simple change that makes the application
work so much better.

Cheers
Mike

Cees Verhagen

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Jan 23, 2008, 6:01:02 AM1/23/08
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A very good working solution, thanks a lot!
However some users still had a slow performance with high CPU usage. They
were all using Google desktop. The moment they stoped indexing the web
history on Google desktop, the performance problems were solved.

Tracey Axelrod

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Apr 21, 2008, 11:00:02 AM4/21/08
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Hi. Forgive the question but I'm a newbie to CRM. I assume the solution
below works only for CRM through a browser, not through Outlook. If that is
a correct assumption is there anything specific that you know of that can
help Outlook CRM performance? I saw an entry about adding an entry to the
registry and I'm looking into that.

Thanks for your help!!!! :>)
- Tracey

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