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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:33:41 PM10/29/01
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You don't get it simply for that, you have to use the items in a real post.
You however, have already done this and are pre-approved just like those
annoying credit card letters. You may now add MCNGP to your signature. I
still need to think of other criteria for judging potential candidates and
suggestions are welcome. I am going to crosspost this in the MCSE forum to
more people can get the news.


"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message
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> excellent idea.
> ass fucker
> can i speak to kerpal?
> do i pass? lol
>
> "«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:#EuaxlJYBHA.1716@tkmsftngp05...
> > Speaking of certifications.. I am thinking of starting one of my own
for
> > this group. The coveted MCNGP or Mean Certified News Group Poster.
There
> > are some here who will automatically qualify but I need to come up with
> some
> > sort of standard to gauge who can be a MCNGP. I think one will have to
be
> > to use Chalk's infamous post in it's pure form at least once. The
> applicant
> > will also need to demonstrate a good working knowledge of who's dog was
> > kicked.
> >
> > Any comments, suggestions?
> >
> > "Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message
> > news:e#gYkbJYBHA.2232@tkmsftngp05...
> > > i'm not a ccie, ya f'in tool
> > >
> > > "Jtyc" <y...@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OSj#UYJYBHA.2112@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > Yep... A CCIE wouldn't have to lie would he?
> > > >
> > > > "Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uINVqCJYBHA.2104@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > > i've lied in interviews, never about my credentials, just about
the
> > > people
> > > > > im interviewing with. "yeah, i'd love to be part of you team" ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:#8cmZBIYBHA.1876@tkmsftngp07...
> > > > > > Who cares if he is certified or not. He could be certified and
> know
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > > or not certified and be a knowledgeable experienced employees.
> This
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > to say that I would hire someone who lies on an interview; if
you
> > have
> > > > > > REASON to think he may be lying that is a whole other issue.
> > > Otherwise
> > > > > see
> > > > > > if he knows his stuff and forget the cert.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Gregory W. Smith" <gsm...@cvn.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:#fJIgvCYBHA.1512@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > > > > There is an 800 number from Microsoft that I've called in the
> > past,
> > > > > where
> > > > > > > you can privide MCPID or SSN to get the person's current
status.
> > > > > Ideally,
> > > > > > > they'd fax a transcript, but I didn't have to go that far-
they
> > had
> > > no
> > > > > > > record _whatsoever_ of the person I spoke with who claimed to
be
> > > MCSE
> > > > > > > certified.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fun to be lied to by someone, isn't it? :(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Bill B" <bi...@bottlegarden.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:#XmR0jCYBHA.2284@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > > > > > Being certified has nothing to do with experience. In fact,
> > those
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > most experience don't generally bother with the MS
> > certifications.
> > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > usually the newcomers that need that extra eye candy for
> > > employers.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you're looking for someone with experience ask for project
> > > > refrences.
> > > > > > > Most
> > > > > > > > experienced programmers will be more than happy to show you
> what
> > > > > they've
> > > > > > > > already done. You are right though. I think MS should keep
a
> > > > > database
> > > > > > > > reseme for those certified which would also put some real
> value
> > in
> > > > > being
> > > > > > > > certified in the first place. And trust me on this, you can
> get
> > > > > through
> > > > > > > > those certification exams and still come out useless. I
know
> > that
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > > hand. Knowing how to do something in theory and having real
> > world
> > > > > > > > experience are two totally different things. Best of luck
> with
> > > your
> > > > > > > quest.
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Who Me" <yeah...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:f98pttsrhmncjkqba...@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:21:15 -0800, "Bill B"
> > > > > <bi...@bottlegarden.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I know it's shitty, but that's the way it is. Either you
> ask
> > > him
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > >certificate or ask him for his card. The card is just
like
> a
> > > > > credit
> > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > >he should have it on him in his wallet. Other than that
> > there
> > > is
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > >You'd think there would be a database for employers to
look
> > > them
> > > > > up,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > >there isn't.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > oh I've got his card and number - but that doesn't help me
> > tell
> > > if
> > > > > > > > > he's expired or anything - shame that MS don't provide
some
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > corroberation service
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > D.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Consultant®

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:38:22 PM10/29/01
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awesome, can i now demand a higher bill rate as a result of this new
esteemed credential? get online by the way....

"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:44:49 PM10/29/01
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Only if you put it on your actual business card. I'm on now.

"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message

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Consultant®

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:50:05 PM10/29/01
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ok, mean, but how much will this cert cost people?


"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:58:47 PM10/29/01
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Unlike M$ I am not greedy. I will give the cert free of charge to anyone
who shows competency. Apart from a good working knowledge of network the
successful candidates must show a significant ability to demonstrate humor
to brighten our otherwise dull and stressful days as well as the ability to
take any joke or insult thrown at them in good humor so long as that is
actually how it meant. This cert does not make us sitting ducks for trolls
and kooks, it just says we do not get easily offended.

"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message

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Robert Moir

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:18:35 PM10/29/01
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"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> Unlike M$ I am not greedy. I will give the cert free of charge to anyone
> who shows competency. Apart from a good working knowledge of network the
> successful candidates must show a significant ability to demonstrate humor
> to brighten our otherwise dull and stressful days as well as the ability
to
> take any joke or insult thrown at them in good humor so long as that is
> actually how it meant. This cert does not make us sitting ducks for
trolls
> and kooks, it just says we do not get easily offended.

Well I'm offended. You see, your daughter, she come to my house and she
kicked my dog. And now my dog need operation.


«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:23:51 PM10/29/01
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Good start but it takes hard work and diligence.

_+#--------------#+_

Mean

MCNGP®


"Robert Moir" <mara...@bitey.force9.co.uk> wrote in message
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Consultant®

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:27:31 PM10/29/01
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robert, you forgot the famous chalk response.....
unlike MS, the passing score will not be lowered, so 500/1000 will not cut
it here. we need to keep this cert worthy


"Robert Moir" <mara...@bitey.force9.co.uk> wrote in message
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>

Robert Moir

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"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message
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> robert, you forgot the famous chalk response.....
> unlike MS, the passing score will not be lowered, so 500/1000 will not cut
> it here. we need to keep this cert worthy

And I was so looking forward to amending my .sig to say "MVP, MCNGP" too :-P


«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:30:23 PM10/29/01
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These terms also need to be used in real postings, not just in a thread
discussing this cert.

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"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message

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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:32:17 PM10/29/01
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You can get there but unlike M$, You don't get this cer with one day of
practice.

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"Robert Moir" <mara...@bitey.force9.co.uk> wrote in message

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Jtyc

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:43:47 PM10/29/01
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You expect me to EARN this cert. Bah... I'm just gonna lie and put it in
my qualifications anyway...

Jtyc
MCSE, CCE, CCNA, CCIE, ABC, CD-R, MCT, PBS, CBS, Emperor of the Known
Universe, MCNGP®

"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

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Jtyc

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:45:13 PM10/29/01
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You expect me to EARN this cert. Bah... I'm just gonna lie and put it in
my qualifications anyway...

Jtyc
MCSE, CCE, CCNA, CCIE, ABC, CD-R, MCT, PBS, CBS, Emperor of the Known
Universe, MCNGP®

"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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Bill B

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Oct 29, 2001, 5:43:41 PM10/29/01
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Where did this dog kicking thing come from anyhow? I remember it from a
post a while back but it was right out of the blue. I nearly fell off my
seat laughing:) Anyhow my question is what country did you buy these drugs
in and can you send me some?
Bill

"«¤meanøldman¤»" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:46:57 PM10/29/01
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You never asked, you also would have been pre-approved. It is not required
but encouraged that you use the official logo (as seen below to advertise
this prestigious cert.

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Consultant®

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:50:04 PM10/29/01
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actually, i have a link to a braindump for it


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Jtyc

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:50:27 PM10/29/01
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Damn I'm pathetic.....

<Falls on his sword>

"Jtyc" <y...@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message

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Jtyc

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Oct 29, 2001, 2:57:47 PM10/29/01
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www.meanbraindumps.com?

"Consultant®" <consu...@perhaps.com> wrote in message

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«¤meanøldman¤»

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Oct 29, 2001, 3:01:47 PM10/29/01
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You try to confuse!

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"Bill B" <bi...@bottlegarden.com> wrote in message
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Chalk

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Oct 29, 2001, 4:12:24 PM10/29/01
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Anyone know of any braindumps for MCNGP?
Also I have troytech & transcenders for MCNGP $25 each
Also can someone take MCNGP for me?

Bill B

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Oct 29, 2001, 7:18:38 PM10/29/01
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Yes and I have the cure for chronic stupidiy at $5 a shot. You only need a
firearms certificate to qualify.
Bill
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Morgoth

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Oct 30, 2001, 5:00:26 AM10/30/01
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lol :)


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