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Nurzena

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Apr 18, 2009, 12:06:01 PM4/18/09
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I made a backup file. Tried to send to cdburner. Evidently the file is too
big to put on one cd. Question: how do I make 2 cd's for back up? the cd
burner has 8.5 GB max capacity. my file is 19.5GB's or 3 cd's
thanks

RobertVA

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Apr 18, 2009, 3:28:22 PM4/18/09
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You appear to be confused on at least two things:

1) CD=Rs (and CD-RWs) can't hold anything even approaching 8.5 GB. You
would need a double layer DVD-R, large flash/thumb drive or hard drive
for that. I'm unable to determine if you are merely shifting the decimal
point. Long play Cd-Rs can hold about 850 MEGAbytes (a little over 3/4
GB - it takes 1024 MB to make a GB)).

2) The two "basic" groups here aren't for "basic" questions, they are
for BASIC (Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) programming
language questions. A few decades ago someone thought the confusing
acronym was clever. Your inquiry would probably be seen by a larger
number of qualified people in a group like ...windows.basic (use the
left pane to select the different group). We aren't bothered by your
inquiry being here, but want you to have the best chance of getting a
useful response.

Because of the very same capacity issues you appear to be having, many
people are now using external hard drives for their backups. Those
drives typically use a USB 2 connection to the computer. You should be
able to easily locate external hard drives as large as a full Terrabyte.

The backup program that comes with Windows isn't very full featured. You
could probably purchase a backup program with disk spanning capabilities
developed by another publisher.

Nurzena

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Apr 18, 2009, 8:42:07 PM4/18/09
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ok well one part says the size is 19,845,703 KB. another part of my pc
says it is 18.9 GB. As I am copying, I am not getting the numbers wrong
except of course the 19.5gb. wasn't looking at it then.

2) it takes me days to something on pc that you could do in minutes.
therefore I'm in basics because I dont know how to do things , mostly basic.
they told me to make a backup disk I'm trying to. thats all. sorry to
bother yu.

a friend of mine said her cd burner tells her to change disk. how can I
make mine do it too?

this should be simple but it's not.

RobertVA

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Apr 19, 2009, 2:05:12 AM4/19/09
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>> Nurzena wrote:
>>> I made a backup file. Tried to send to cdburner. Evidently the file is too
>>> big to put on one cd. Question: how do I make 2 cd's for back up? the cd
>>> burner has 8.5 GB max capacity. my file is 19.5GB's or 3 cd's
>>> thanks

> "RobertVA" wrote:
> >> You appear to be confused on at least two things:
>>
>> 1) CD=Rs (and CD-RWs) can't hold anything even approaching 8.5 GB. You
>> would need a double layer DVD-R, large flash/thumb drive or hard drive
>> for that. I'm unable to determine if you are merely shifting the decimal
>> point. Long play Cd-Rs can hold about 850 MEGAbytes (a little over 3/4
>> GB - it takes 1024 MB to make a GB)).
>>
>> 2) The two "basic" groups here aren't for "basic" questions, they are
>> for BASIC (Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) programming
>> language questions. A few decades ago someone thought the confusing
>> acronym was clever. Your inquiry would probably be seen by a larger
>> number of qualified people in a group like ...windows.basic (use the
>> left pane to select the different group). We aren't bothered by your
>> inquiry being here, but want you to have the best chance of getting a
>> useful response.
>>
>> Because of the very same capacity issues you appear to be having, many
>> people are now using external hard drives for their backups. Those
>> drives typically use a USB 2 connection to the computer. You should be
>> able to easily locate external hard drives as large as a full Terrabyte.
>>
>> The backup program that comes with Windows isn't very full featured. You
>> could probably purchase a backup program with disk spanning capabilities
>> developed by another publisher.
>>

Nurzena wrote:
> ok well one part says the size is 19,845,703 KB. another part of
my pc
> says it is 18.9 GB. As I am copying, I am not getting the numbers
wrong
> except of course the 19.5gb. wasn't looking at it then.
>
> 2) it takes me days to something on pc that you could do in minutes.
> therefore I'm in basics because I dont know how to do things ,
mostly basic.
> they told me to make a backup disk I'm trying to. thats all.
sorry to
> bother yu.
>
> a friend of mine said her cd burner tells her to change disk. how can I
> make mine do it too?
>
> this should be simple but it's not.

"RobertVA" wrote:
For once Microsoft elected to leave a utility that includes a modest
function set as part of the Windows OS. Perhaps they were cautious about
including a better backup utility after all the EXPENSIVE legal
arguments over including their Internet Explorer web browser in Windows.
Spanning a backup across multiple optical disks just REQUIRES a third
party backup utility, and isn't likely to change. Since your backup
looks like that third party utility would require a couple of DOZEN
CD-Rs, I think you would find an external hard drive MUCH easier to use
(the third party backup utility might still be useful).

Last year I was backing up the Windows Vista installation for someone's
new computer. Even with no user data files it took three single layer
DVD-Rs and several hours (the manufacturer's utility had to organize the
data). That was less information than you are wanting to store.

Unfortunately, as programs and their data files become more complex they
take more and more storage space to back up. It first happened with
floppy disks, and people bought Zip drives. Zip drives were just
catching on when files outgrew them and people bought CD burners. As the
per picture "Megapixels" size produced by digital cameras grew,
storage requirements quickly outgrew CD-Rs. With video downloads and
high quality "Raw" format still photographs, even DVD-Rs have trouble
meeting people's needs.

Nurzena

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Apr 19, 2009, 1:36:01 PM4/19/09
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Never mind. you just want to sell me something. I want to use what I have
Which is dozens of Disks. and with all that yu still haven't told me HOW.
so never mind

RobertVA

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Apr 19, 2009, 3:57:54 PM4/19/09
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Wow! Try to help somebody out and just get spat on!

I don't make a cent off any dealer selling either external hard drives
or third party backup programs. I don't work for anyone that does
either. The backup utility that comes with Windows just DOES NOT DO WHAT
YOU WANT TO DO! It lacks code to span a file across multiple storage
media. Your ONLY choices are a better backup utility or a bigger storage
media for your backup.

I'll not bother you with any more assistance.

Auric__

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Apr 20, 2009, 1:18:21 PM4/20/09
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:36:01 GMT, =?Utf-8?B?TnVyemVuYQ==?= wrote:

> Never mind. you just want to sell me something. I want to use what I
> have Which is dozens of Disks. and with all that yu still haven't
> told me HOW. so never mind

You are the biggest moron on Earth. This week, anyway. RovertVA gave you a
valid solution. He wasn't trying to sell you *anything*, he was trying to
*help* you, even though your request was technically off-topic in this group.

Tell me, when you go to the doctor, do you yell at them because they're
trying to help you?

Also, don't top-post.

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May 11, 2009, 10:36:44 PM5/11/09
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"Nurzena" <Nur...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77331B5F-ECA3-4161...@microsoft.com...

With the cost of hard drives and thumb drives being so low you might be
better of getting a 250 or bigger USB hard drive and use that as your backup
drive.

Regards,

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