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Willard

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Nov 29, 2009, 1:25:14 PM11/29/09
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Where can I get a copy of Norton "diskedit" for MSDOS??
Norton Utilities v14.3 according to Symantic chat does not have it..

Tim Meddick

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Nov 29, 2009, 3:02:55 PM11/29/09
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'diskedit' ?

I have Norton Utilities Version 4.50 for DOS which IS a direct disk editor (you need
to use the 'lock' command on the drive before you use NU).

You used to be able to get such files from the http://oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/
website, but for some reason it's down at present.

But I have uploaded the NU 4.5 setup self-extractor to 4Shared.
So you can download it by clicking on the link below :
http://www.4shared.com/file/162222178/4f37e2df/NU45A.html

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Willard

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Nov 29, 2009, 5:07:41 PM11/29/09
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Im trying to use El Torito for a boot CD to emulate C: instead of A:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167685

ArarghMai...@not.at.arargh.com

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Nov 29, 2009, 6:18:58 PM11/29/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:41 -0500, Willard <gu...@msn.invalid> wrote:

>Im trying to use El Torito for a boot CD to emulate C: instead of A:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167685

That looks to be the hard/old way. (I didn't bother to read all the
way thru.) I would think that any modern/recent CD writer software
would simply have a "Create Bootable CD" option. I know that both of
the software programs that I have, have that option. And the Adaptec
software is 15 years old.

As for emulating C:, you probably have to patch the BIOS for that, but
I don't know. Or maybe create an ISO file, and patch that. I don't
know where the emulated drive letter comes from. And Why?

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Tim Meddick

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Nov 29, 2009, 7:18:56 PM11/29/09
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Can you even do that?

(What's that got to do with Norton Utilities?)

Bootable CD's usually use a [hidden] floppy image to create a "virtual" (and
read-only) A: drive - not a C: drive.

After the virtual A: drive is created to boot the machine, the usual protocol for
allocating drive-letters takes place.

If you have no DOS hard-drives or partitions, then the CD ROM becomes drive "C:"


BTW - I have made many bootable CDs with "CDRTools", obtainable by clicking on either
link below [freeware] :

Download the Full Installer .EXE file:
http://demosten.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?src=cdrfe14_exe

Or download the ZIP file:
http://demosten.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?src=cdrfe14_zip

If you are not used to handling floppy images, you will need Winimage as well:
http://www.winimage.com/download/winima85.exe

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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DOS Guy

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:07:23 AM11/30/09
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Willard wrote:

> Where can I get a copy of Norton "diskedit" for MSDOS??

Right here:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/DISKEDIT.ZIP

That .zip file is password protected. The password is the letter "a".

> Norton Utilities v14.3 according to Symantic chat does not have it..

That diskedit.exe is from Norton SystemWorks 2002.

Willard

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:20:12 AM11/30/09
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What is the name of your program, and would you have a link for download??

ArarghMai...@not.at.arargh.com

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:10:12 AM11/30/09
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:20:12 -0500, Willard <gu...@msn.invalid> wrote:

>What is the name of your program, and would you have a link for download??

All my CD/DVD software came with drives that I bought.

And learn to NOT top-post.

Willard

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Nov 30, 2009, 4:33:25 PM11/30/09
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For some reason or other, CDRtools will create a *.iso file and a *.img
file, but the burn or fixating process puts nothing on the CD??
Nero works o.k., but emulates an A: drive which can hold only 1mb of
programs, I need about 5mb for DOS programs..
I am looking for something like MakeBoot (mkbt20.zip) that works fine
for booting a flash drive with 5mb of DOS programs.

Paul Bartlett

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:05:20 PM11/30/09
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Concerning the topics of this newsgroup:

microsoft: Microsoft products (or, by extension and sufferance, more or
less compatible products)
public: a public as contrasted with a private (restricted) newsgroup
basic: concerning the BASIC programming language, and not elementary,
i.e., basic or fundamental, questions in general; this newsgroup
is about a specific programming language, not general questions
dos: the MSDOS or, again by sufferance, workalike operating systems

In other words, posts here should be about the BASIC programming
language, and not about elementary DOS questions. And please, be it
noted, a so-called command window under advanced editions of Windows
is NOT DOS.

Although many of the posts here have some broad interest, they are not
what this newsgroup is about.

--
Paul Bartlett

Sjouke Burry

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:03:59 PM11/30/09
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Willard wrote:
> For some reason or other, CDRtools will create a *.iso file and a *.img
> file, but the burn or fixating process puts nothing on the CD??
> Nero works o.k., but emulates an A: drive which can hold only 1mb of
> programs, I need about 5mb for DOS programs..
> I am looking for something like MakeBoot (mkbt20.zip) that works fine
> for booting a flash drive with 5mb of DOS programs.

What's wrong with 1MB??
you need the bootup files on it, and autoexec.bat and
config.sys, but that wont even fill a quarter of the boot
space.
Just make sure that your autoexec.bat declares the right
drive letter for the cd drive, say k: and that the data
part of the cd contains K:\DOSFILES
and K:|COMMAND.COM

and the path and comspec declared in autoexec.bat reads
something like

path K:\DOSFILES;A:\;
set comspec=k:\command.com

K:(your CD datapart) has about 600MB space.

That way, you have all the space you need.

Note:make the 2 lines the last in autoexec.bat.

Tim Meddick

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Nov 30, 2009, 7:31:52 PM11/30/09
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In answer to your problem of CDRTools burning "nothing to disk" - simply "de-select"
the checkbox named "Create image only, do not burn ". This checkbox can be found
under the first page (Data CD) on pressing the "CD Options" button.

You will find that the disk in then burnt as well as creating the ISO file.

Similarly, you can just burn an existing ISO fileU.S. using the "Use Image..."
option to browse for an existing image, so you don't have to go through the whole
process again.

The option to create an image-file without actually burning it, and is useful to use
with Virtual PC programs (such as Microsoft's Virtual PC 2009).

There are many other programs that will just burn an existing ISO file - ISO
Recorder v2.0 by Alex Feinman And being one very good one that's as simple to use as
right-clicking on any .ISO file to burn.

Download ISO Recorder v2.0 by clicking on the link below :
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/download/ISORecorderV2RC1.msi

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Tim Meddick

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:15:42 PM11/30/09
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P.S. Willard,
if you managed to actually 'create' an .ISO file, then you have,
by far, done the more complicated part of the process - don't give up on CDRTools
now.

If you were to download M$ Virtual PC you can actually test CDs OR just the ISO
that created them on a "Virtual" computer booting up in a window on your PC.

You should try it - it saves bags of time and blank CDs by testing the ISOs out
before you burn them to disk to see that they boot the way you want them to...

(Virtual PC)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199-48A3-AFA2-2DC0B40A73B6&displaylang=en

Willard

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Dec 1, 2009, 6:34:30 AM12/1/09
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I can't find the checkboxes you list in my CDR Tools (Front End) Version 1.4
(x) create Cd image (data CD)
"Select mkisofs options"

or Burn CD

(x) Data CD (from image)
"Select advanced options"

Tim Meddick

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:21:54 PM12/1/09
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I didn't say a chkbox called "Select mkisofs options" - but a command button on the
first "Data CD" page called :

"CD options"

That's a button with the words "CD options" on it!

...on pressing this button, you get another "box" entitled "Data CD - Options"

In this "box" are a "Use image" option for selecting to burn an .ISO image (file) -
using the "Browse" button.

Also, in the same "box" is the chkbox entitled "Create image only, do not burn"

Plus, in the exact same place is another box entitled "Keep image" and yet another
("radio button") called "on the fly - no image"!!

Although I AM using ver. 1.3 I cannot think they are too different being 0.1
difference in the version numbers!

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


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Willard

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Dec 2, 2009, 1:30:09 PM12/2/09
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See Attachments for my checked boxes..
(create).txt
(burn).txt
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