Dynamics AX 4.0 installation on Windows XP

[frango]

Hi,

The document referred by the following URL :

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9688F8B9-1034-4EF6-A3E5-2A2A57B5C8E4&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer

introduces "Active Directory Application Mode (ADAM)"

"Overview
Active Directory Application Mode (ADAM) is a part of Microsoft’s fully
integrated directory services available with Windows Server 2003, and is
built specifically to address directory-enabled application scenarios. ADAM
runs as a non-operating-system service, and, as such, it does not require
deployment on a domain controller. "

"System Requirements
Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows XP; Windows XP
64-bit
...
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Service Pack 1 (SP1) "

Does it means that one only needs to install "ADAM" on an XP machine to
allow to install AX 4.0 standalone (afaik, AD is required for AX 4.0).

Are there other necessary components?

Thank you in advance,

FGo

[Joris de Gruyter]

If the PC you're installing on is part of a domain you'll be fine without a
local AD or this ADAM.

"frango" <fra...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[David Pokluda [MSFT]]

One more think, please check it but I think that you can install only AX4
client on XP. If you want to have AOS running on the same machine, then you
have to have Windows Server 2003.

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"frango" <fra...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> The document referred by the following URL :
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9688F8B9-1034-4EF6-A3E5-2A2A57B5C8E4&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer
>
> introduces "Active Directory Application Mode (ADAM)"
>
> "Overview
> Active Directory Application Mode (ADAM) is a part of Microsoft's fully
> integrated directory services available with Windows Server 2003, and is
> built specifically to address directory-enabled application scenarios.
> ADAM
> runs as a non-operating-system service, and, as such, it does not require
> deployment on a domain controller. "
>
> "System Requirements
> Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows XP; Windows XP
> 64-bit
> ...

> MicrosoftR WindowsR XP Professional Service Pack 1 (SP1) "

[PSK]

No you haven't install Windows 2003 server, Ax4 server working also on
Windows XP Profesional - is checked. Windows Server 2003 is recomended.

Regards,
PSK.PL

[Habio]

Hi all!

Frango's question is very good! Not every development machine is connected
to AD or is even wanted to.

So I would like to raise the question again. How to build a stand alone AX
4.0 installation on XP? Is this ADAM the answer?

-harri

[Joris de Gruyter]

I am running Ax4 on my XP laptop without any issues. The only thing is that
i can not change my user options unless i am connected to vpn so it can
contact my associated network account's AD. Apart from that, everything
works fine using a local AOS.

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[Habio]

If there´s no AD, is the ADAM usefull? In what step the Ax setup needs the AD?

-harri

[Dean Wierman]

AOS on XP is not supported. You can use virtual PC on XP to make this work.
ADAM is not useful in this context.

Dean

[Harish Mohanbabu]

Hi,

Just to clarify -
For installing Ax 4.0 AOS server Windows Server OS is required. This is
mainly because this is a server application so the AOS server instance has
certain dependencies on the OS.

Clients could be installed in XP and many other flavors of XP (Media Center
edition etc)

Harri - All Ax 4.0 users must first be defined in the AD. In Ax 4.0 there is
a wizard which enables to download all users defined in AD into Axapta.

Hope this helps.

Harish Mohanbabu
--
Microsoft Dynamics Ax [MVP]
http://www.harishm.com/

[Habio]

Thank you Harish Mohanbabu, the AD integration really s*cks. I don't have all
the test environments in AD. Nor am I plannin on deploying a one.

Still I'm a bit confused, mainly because there seems to be no documentation
at all about consultant installations. What do they (MS) expect, that I'll
install a Win2k3 srv to all consultant laptops or that we start using VPC
images? Both consume a huge amount of computing power (in already stuffed
laptops). IMHO bad idea!

I think this is a bad move from MS.

-harri

[Emiel Dekker]

I totally agree with "Habio". Also in our organisation we have consultants
working with laptops on which they would like (NEED TO) install AX 4.0 and be
able to work with it as a stand-alone application.

I have installed all AX 4.0 components on my laptop, running Windows XP Pro
SP2. And it all works fine. That is, as long as I am connected to our network
and Ax can read my user account from our AD server.

When I am at home, for example, and I have no VPN connection to our network
setup then Dynamics AX will simply not start up from my laptop. I haven't
tried how it works when I have a VPN connection to our server, because from
my home I am not able to do this (home side issue, not server side issue).

But we cannot expect every consultant to create a VPN connection to our
office, every time the locally want to use Dynamics AX 4.0. Also because this
is not always possible from every location.

Therefor also my question... Is ADAM a solution? And what solution has
Microsoft itself came up with? Or with what solution will they come up with
(if they will). Further more, several partners worldwide have been testing AX
4.0 for a while before it was released for all partners. Did one of them
maybe came up with a solution for this problem already?

Any suggestions are more then welcome :-)

Greetings,
Emiel

[JFB the Smoggy]

I'm trying to get this to work also...

... I've installed and configured ADAM, but obviously incorrectly - when my
laptop is 'offline' and I try and install Dynamics AX 4, the installation
routine closes with an empty dialog. No message, just an empty dialog with
a red/white cross in the corner.

I'm logging a support call with MSFT about this - if the lack of AD is the
cause, then perhaps they can tell me which containers/values I need in my
Schema to make this work.

JFB
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[JFB the Smoggy]

OK so I finally deciphered the empty dialog:

'You are logged on with a local computer account - you must be logged on
with a domain account to run Microsoft Dynamics AX Setup'.

Hmmm. Do I think I can get this to work?

JFB
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"Emiel Dekker" <Emiel...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Rene Heilig]

Hello Habio,

Please note that Ax is made for end users, and they have some demands for
TCO, ROI. and security. Therefore the AD integration is a great solution
from commercial point of view.

From the consult point of view. Use VPC images. That's the ONLY proper
solution of having a clean environment, per customer or pre-sales case.

Cheers !

Rene

"Habio" <Ha...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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[Dean Wierman]

ADAM is not going to help. You have two options.

1. Use a VPC
2. Use a laptop with win2k3 installed.
a) make the laptop a domain controller. This will allow you to have as
many AX/AD users as you like.
b)The laptop does not need to have AD installed (only one AX user).

-Install AX single install on a laptop (win2k3) which is connected
to a domain. Make sure you are logged onto the domain when running
install.
-the AD user is set as the AX admin.
-Start the client.
- do work...
- Disconnected mode. Disconnect laptop from the network.
- logon to laptop with AD creds (uses cached credentials)
- start and run client as normal.

Dean

[Harish Mohanbabu]

Hi Emiel,

**************

Further more, several partners worldwide have been testing AX
4.0 for a while before it was released for all partners. Did one of them
maybe came up with a solution for this problem already?

**************
To address your concerns -
I believe majority of the resellers participated in TAP provided similar
feedback to MS. Currently the only solution to address this is VPC.

But since the feedback was almost consistent, MS are looking to fix this in
upcoming releases of Ax 4.0

Regards,

[Junevoful]

Hi Emiel,

Windows XP can cache the credentials of domain accounts used to log on to
the network at the local computer. So even WinXP disconnected from domain
controller, you can use domain user account to log on if you use the same
account log on before.
Actually what you need to do is to set the CachedLogonsCount registry key
(default 10, range from 0 to 50) in Windows XP properly. Without domain
controller, AX 4 runs well except that I can't add new users in userinfo. But
I know that there is a solution to add new users in AX 4 without domain
controller.

Domain controller is only necessary during AX 4 installation.

Best regards,

Fred
--
http://fredshen.spaces.msn.com

[Junevoful]

And sometimes for the purpose of demonstration, it needs to open several AX4
instances using different user accounts. If you enable secondary logon
service in Windows XP, you can 'Run' AX 4 'as' other users. I run this very
well in my laptop without domain controller.
But I need to log on my laptop using different domain accounts when
connecting to domain controller in order to cache the credentials for these
accounts. So when there is no domain controller, I log on as local
administrator, then 'run as' other accounts to open AX 4.

[Habio]

Hi Rene,

Sorry may delay - I've been upgrading a 2.5 installation to 3.0 on a
customer site :)

Commersial point of view? You may be right.
Coders point of view? It still s*cks! Oh why? Ever tried to recompile your
AX installation on VPC and do something usefull in the host environment on
the same time? DB sync, compiling, they both take the VPC on its knees. When
the customer is behind your shoulder and all you can say is "it is
syncronising..." the 125 eur per hour bill seems a lot bigger than it used to.

Buying a 3-5 grand laptops to all consultants (and sales people) just to be
able to "run" Axapta on VPC? Now, there's a commersial point of view :=)

My apologies Rene, this isn't against your opinions but to MS at a whole.

Still, I'm quite happy that this tread has raised more eyebrows that mine
only.

-habio aka Harri Era

[Habio]

Hi Harish,

Where did you get this info? The MS in Finland doesn't know enything about
"fixing" something. And I haven't found any info from the Partner Source too.

-habio

[Joris de Gruyter]

It works fine here too, i am just enable to change my user options if i
don't have a connection to the A.D. ;-)

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[Alchemist]

Hey Joris,

I am trying to install ax 4.0 , on a system having windows xp OS. I want a
one PC installation but it is giving me error.

here is what log file says

=== Starting evaluation of existing installation state ===
Client.msi Installed: False
ApplicationIntegrationServer.msi Installed: False
NetBusinessConnector.msi Installed: False
ComBusinessConnector.msi Installed: False

can you please tell me is there any special way to install one system axapta
on XP machines, I have no issue regarding the domain account as i am in a
network.

Thanks and Regards,

Kumar

[Carsten M. Horlacher]

Isn´t there a more detailed log file created? I had similar problems
after uninstalling the TAP release and installing RTM. My fix was to
clean up the registry and then it worked.

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Regards,
Carsten Horlacher

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[Alchemist]

Hi Carsten,

Can you please clarify, what exactly you are saying to do, what to clean
inside registry.

Thanks in advance

[Carsten M. Horlacher]

Check HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum and Check
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services. First I searched for Dynamics
and in a second run I searched for the instance name of my AOS. After I
deleted all entries I was able to install all components without a
problem.
--
Regards,
Carsten Horlacher

"Alchemist" <Alch...@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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[Alchemist]

Hi Carsten,

do i need to uninstall axapta 3.0 for installing 4.0 through your method, as
i want to keep it so pelase tell me some idea about how to keep the ol
dversion and install new.

"Carsten M. Horlacher" wrote:

> Check HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum and Check
> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services. First I searched for Dynamics
> and in a second run I searched for the instance name of my AOS. After I
> deleted all entries I was able to install all components without a
> problem.
> --
> Regards,
> Carsten Horlacher
>
> "Alchemist" <Alch...@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:B2BC7B7A-524E-46BA...@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Carsten,
> >
> > Can you please clarify, what exactly you are saying to do, what to
> > clean
> > inside registry.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > "Carsten M. Horlacher" wrote:
> >

> >> Isn´t there a more detailed log file created? I had similar problems

[Carsten M. Horlacher]

No you need not uninstall Axapta 3.0. You may install 4.0 without
upgrading 3.0, if I rememeber right 4.0 doesn´t look for a 3.0
installation.
--
Regards,
Carsten Horlacher

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[Jason.Fi...@gmail.com]

I'm running Windows 2003 server. Someone wants me to install Dynamics
AX 4.0 just to test some things out and grab some screenshots. The
server I need to install the software to is NOT IN THE DOMAIN. I keep
getting an error: "You must be logged on with a domain account to run
Dynamics AX 4.0 setup".

What the heck? Actually, I DID install it from the .iso. Just fine.
Then I went to install the client and it gave me that message. I can't
re-install it, I can't even find it in the add/remove panel. It looks
like it never originally installed.

Is there no way to install this without being in an AD domain?

[Carsten M. Horlacher]

No ActiveDirecotry is a must have prequiste for 4.0 installation.
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Regards,
Carsten Horlacher

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[Søren Christensen]

Hi Fred

Does this trick work on 4.01?

Thanks,
Søren
--
Human Resources, Balanced Scorecard, and Questionnaire Dev. MindKey Group.

[Cips]

It works for 4.01 (SP1) too

by
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[olorinpc]

Actually - thats a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

What the installer checks is that the machine you are installing on (XP
Machine of course) is part of a domain. That's it. It will then give
you an error that 2k3 is recommended, ignore and proceed with the
install.

It will work just fine. I run AX 4.0 natively on my laptop off of SQL
2000, and it works just fine for single user testing.

If you are having problem with Virtual - get more RAM for your laptop,
virtual images are a bit of a pain because of their size, but the
flexibility is so much better. A laptop with 2gb of RAM will be able
to handle them sufficiently.

Thanks, Jake Barnard

http://axaptasource.com

[Peter Lykkegaard]

olorinpc wrote:
>
> If you are having problem with Virtual - get more RAM for your laptop,
> virtual images are a bit of a pain because of their size, but the
> flexibility is so much better. A laptop with 2gb of RAM will be able
> to handle them sufficiently.
>

I am running AX4 using VMWare Desktop on a PM 2Ghz, 1Gb mem and a 100Gb
7.200 rpms disk
It's ok
Obviously having 2Gb men will maker it more smooth ;)

- Peter

--
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Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!

[olorinpc]

That is really the cleanest way of running AX40. You can run it
natively on XP and SQL 2000, but to really demonstrate a "live" setup,
virtual is the most practical way to go.

Personally - I do both. That way when I want to check something in AX40
quick, I load the native client. When I demo or really want to do some
testing in a fresh environment - virtual.

[FLB_SAG-BR]

Hello Cips,

Can you pass me the link for the solution to add users without AD?

In my case, I can reach AD through a VPN connection but in the user list
in AX wizard there`s several user names missing.

Is there a solution for that?

Thanks!