Hand Cannoneer question

[JBaswell]

Do hand cannoneers do piercing damage?

(They're from the archery building, so piercing seems reasonable, but I
dunno if being hit with a small cannonball would be
considered 'piercing'...)

Mainly I'm wondering if Huskars (Goth special unit, lotsa piercing
defense) get to use their bonus defense versus the hand cannon guys.

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[One-Eyed King]

Yes, HC's inflict pierce damage.

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: Do hand cannoneers do piercing damage?

[CrazyH]

What kind of unit is a HC or Janny? Archer, Infantry, what?

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[CrazyH]

I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their class.

"Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
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> Hand Cannoneers and jannisaries are both gunpowder units with the jannies
> being stronger. hc's are made by the archery range, and jannies are the
> turks unique unit.
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[Matt Duggan]

[Solver]

Both HCs and Jannisaries are archers. That's because only archers (except
for Throwing Axemen) have ranged attack. And because it's piercing armor
what protects you vs. hcs and jannies, not the regular one.

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CrazyH <crazy...@videotron.ca> wrote in message

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> I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their class.
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> "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
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[Matt Duggan]

i gave it to you, its gunpowder. no more no less. the only other thing it
could be is archer.

"CrazyH" <crazy...@videotron.ca> wrote in message

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> I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their class.
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> "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
> news:GYSz5.133585$d9.7...@typhoon.kc.rr.com...

[One-Eyed King]

An HC is a gunpowder unit, but shares many things with an archer:

* it is a ranged unit
* it is created at the Archery Range
* archer armor helps HC's

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"Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
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: i gave it to you, its gunpowder. no more no less. the only other thing it
: could be is archer.
: "CrazyH" <crazy...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
: news:4FTz5.7567$m03.1...@wagner.videotron.net...

: > I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their
class.
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: > "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
: > news:GYSz5.133585$d9.7...@typhoon.kc.rr.com...

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[CrazyH]

Thank you.

"Solver" <ug...@latnet.lv> wrote in message
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> Both HCs and Jannisaries are archers. That's because only archers (except
> for Throwing Axemen) have ranged attack. And because it's piercing armor
> what protects you vs. hcs and jannies, not the regular one.
>
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> CrazyH <crazy...@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:4FTz5.7567$m03.1...@wagner.videotron.net...
> > I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their
class.
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> > "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
> > news:GYSz5.133585$d9.7...@typhoon.kc.rr.com...

[PainMemory]

One other thing to note, Archer attack upgrades like Fletching and Bodkin
arrow do not have any effect for HC's or Jannies.

I don't know if ballistics helps them...in the AOK book it says archers and
doesn't mention gunpowder units.

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> An HC is a gunpowder unit, but shares many things with an archer:
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> * it is a ranged unit
> * it is created at the Archery Range
> * archer armor helps HC's
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> --
> The One-Eyed King (Zone handle: One_Eyed_King)
> In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
> http://www.homestead.com/oek/
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> "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message

> news:Qz7A5.2$K46...@typhoon.kc.rr.com...
> : i gave it to you, its gunpowder. no more no less. the only other thing
it
> : could be is archer.

> : "CrazyH" <crazy...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> : news:4FTz5.7567$m03.1...@wagner.videotron.net...

> : > I know that. Did you read my question though? I need to know their
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> : > "Matt Duggan" <b6bo...@mmcable.com> wrote in message
> : > news:GYSz5.133585$d9.7...@typhoon.kc.rr.com...

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[One-Eyed King]

"PainMemory" wrote in message ...
: One other thing to note, Archer attack upgrades like Fletching and Bodkin

: arrow do not have any effect for HC's or Jannies.
:
: I don't know if ballistics helps them...in the AOK book it says archers
and
: doesn't mention gunpowder units.

I'll echo that. If you check the tech tree, you'll see that the only HC's
upgrades are:

* archer armor from blacksmith

* creation time from Castle (Conscription)

* resistant to conversion at Monastery

So no improved "arrow", no thumbring, and no ballistics. Probably b/c it is
a very strong Imp Age unit anyway.

[Matt Duggan]

i personally have not seen any upgrades to the HC's and jannies. but hey,
25 damage from an archer unit is pretty good. even though they lack strong
defense. gunpowder was new in the imperial age. so until next time, we wont
be seeing anything like ballistic bullets, musket balls, and the like. so
until we get to that age, dont count on seeing much for gunpowder units

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>
> "PainMemory" wrote in message ...
> : One other thing to note, Archer attack upgrades like Fletching and
Bodkin
> : arrow do not have any effect for HC's or Jannies.
> :
> : I don't know if ballistics helps them...in the AOK book it says archers
> and
> : doesn't mention gunpowder units.
>
> I'll echo that. If you check the tech tree, you'll see that the only HC's
> upgrades are:
>
> * archer armor from blacksmith
>
> * creation time from Castle (Conscription)
>
> * resistant to conversion at Monastery
>
> So no improved "arrow", no thumbring, and no ballistics. Probably b/c it
is
> a very strong Imp Age unit anyway.
>