Money and a 4K Monitor

[William Becker]

Just upgraded to a 4k (3840 x 2160) monitor.  Mist programs scale nicely, but Money and my Photoshop Elements 10 do not.  I can update Elements easily enough, but I hoping that there is a fix for Money.  Some screens, - Accounts, Account list, Portfolio Manager,, are quite usable, but the Bills summary is vertically compressed and the icons are pretty small.  Not a deal-breaker, but it sure would be nice to find a fix.

Any ideas or solutions out there?

[Thomas Greig]

The following may improve MM on high def display screens:

1) Open Start menu, right click on MM icon --> more --> left click "file location".

2) In the newly opened "ProgramData>Microsoft>Windows>Programs>Microsoft Money Plus" folder right click the MM shortcut --> then left click "Properties".

3) Left click on the "Compatibility" tab.

4) Three quarters down the page is a "Change high DPI settings" button. Left click it.

5) Near the bottom of the page is the "High DPI scaling override" section. Select the "High DPI scaling behavior" check box.

6) Select "System Enhanced" from the option menu below the check box.

7) Click on OK twice as you back out of the menus.

8) Open MM to see if the changes improve MM's display, if not, unwind the changes.

[Cal Learner]

That compatibility change thing for " High DPI scaling override" sounds like just the thing. I am surprised there has not been some reaction posted.

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Thomas,

 

Many thanks for your detailed instructions on using MSMoney with a high def display screen.  I had previously fiddled with some of those settings with no luck.  But when I followed your instructions exactly, Money is fixed!

I also made those changes for Photoshop Elements (version 10) and it fixed the organizer and fixed the editor except for a couple of icons that are partially cut off.

Bill Becker

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[Thomas Greig]

Thank you for the feedback. I have found "High DPI scaling override" often solves older (legacy) program display issues on newer high scale screens. 

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[Ameridan (microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com)]

Thank you TWG.  I added to my Welcome page https://microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/intro/ 

[Mark Fields]

Hello,

Does the suggestion by TWG only work with " high def display screens"?

I have a 27" Dell monitor that still works but the maximium display is 1920 x 1080 (which I suppose if NOT high def). Would some of you who have done this example by TWG care to say what is your maximum resolution that was used?

Also, I on step 1 " Open Start menu, right click on MM icon --> more --> left click "file location"." I do not have a Microsoft Money icon, but rather, a Microsoft Money Plus folder.  When I click the down arrow I have two Icons, "Insights" and "Money Plus".  Right clicking on the  Money Plus icon and then, chicking the "More" button gives me three options. From there I followed the rest of the steps but don't see an improvement.

I'm thinking its because of the relatively poor maximum display of the old Dell Monitor. Hence the reason I'm asking what resolution some of you have.

My eyes are getting older and I have some cataract issues.  I can see what's going on in MS Money now but I want to get the improvement before things get much worse.

Many thanks.

Mark Fields

[Tom Roberts]

My Gaier software didn't update today's stock prices.

It gave the following message : "Failed to resolve symbols from Microsoft Money to full instruments IDs on MSN Money."

For anyone here reading who uses this service -- did you have the same problem over the past 10 hours? Did it resolve?

Thanks 

[Christian Silos]

Yes Tom, I have exactly the same problem since yesterday .
No change this morning

[Christian Silos]

I leave in Belgium and use the Money2005-FR-QFE3, (the French version).

 experience the same problem.

Looking at the  update quote windows, the last time the update was sucessful was on dec 3th

Le mardi 6 décembre 2022 à 07:04:39 UTC+1, Tom Roberts a écrit :

[joe dempsey]

No problem here - Windows 10, Sunset version and a mix of European stocks on Euronext and Microsoft in New York

[Tom Roberts]

Christian - I used my VPN to pretend I was in Canada and it updated. Never had to do that before. I wonder if there are new US laws making MSN more closed to the outside world. You never know ... 

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[Mark Fields]

Just checked at 02/06/22 11:30 AM and got a similar message - not working

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[Mark Fields]

Found a message to this problem at the Gaier website:

https://gaiersoftware.com/Money

Mark

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[joe dempsey]

Still working here in Ireland :-)

[Adrian Skinner]

London Stock Market okay in UK.

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[Tom Roberts]

Got it. thanks

[Tom Roberts]

I just checked the date of the updates of my stocks and see that many were updated around 3 Dec. 

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[Christian Silos]

MoneyQuotes are working again... Hope Microsoft solve the problem. ;-)

[Christian Silos]

I was unable to insert valid new instrument in the SymbolMap.csv file

Anybody try to use Gaier   Financial Instrument Search recently  @     Gaier Financial Instrument Search   ?

[joe dempsey]

I don't understand what you mean by " I was unable to insert valid new instrument in the SymbolMap.csv file "

The csv file is just a text file - you can insert whatever you want

Do you mean that the instrument code was not recognised and/or the price was not retrieved?

[Troels Bjerre]

Yes, I have used GFIS. Sometimes you must be insistent, trying all possible combinations of names and countries. Which instrument are you looking for?

[Christian Silos]

iShares MSCI World Energy Sector UCITS ETF USD D on XETRA  in Euro  (5MVW) or WENS in USD on  Euronext Amsterdam 

[Christian Silos]

The price was not retrieved.
However the code exist on the MSN finance site Shares MSCI World Energy Sector UCITS ETF USD D on XETRA  in Euro  (5MVW)

[Sean Dayton]

What I have done to make MS Money more visable to read on a 27 inch 1080P monitor is to modify the the Surf.Mar file located at C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Money Plus\MNYCoreFiles  with a text editor like notepad++ Search and Change the following
 Search: font13 ,
font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:normal;
font-size:7pt
==>font-size:9pt

3)Search: fontnormal ,
font-family: Tahoma;font-size:8pt

==>font-size:9pt 

Hope this helps you out. 

[Ameridan (microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com)]

That file doesn't appear in my install of Money Plus Sunset H&B.  What version is yours?

[Cal Learner]

sda... I tried that and it worked. Before making the change, I opened a command window RunAsAdministrator.  I did a CD to the MNYCoreFiles folder, and then I did 

copy surf32.mar surf32.mar.bk0 

which is my convention.

Thanks. Nice find. Further experimentation is warranted. For example, this change did not change the portfolio font.

Also, I wonder if changing the 8 to a 10 would have messed things up. Changing 8 to 9 did not change the file size or offsets of anything.

Ameridan:

I have these surf*.* files in MNYCoreFiles using Money Plus Deluxe Sunset:

02/17/2010  07:21 PM         7,358,507 surf.mar
07/01/2022  05:03 AM         7,358,511 surf32.mar
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            87,920 surfinet.dll
02/22/2010  04:56 PM           113,008 surfshim.dll

These are my *.exe files:

02/22/2010  04:56 PM           144,752 daupdate.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            13,168 mnybb.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            50,032 mnybbsvc.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM           145,264 mnycopymar.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            14,704 mnyimprt.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM           499,568 mnyinsit.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            64,880 msmoney.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            67,952 salv.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            64,880 sanitize.exe
02/22/2010  04:56 PM            32,112 signin.exe

[Ameridan (microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com)]

Found the file using FreeCommander instead of File Explorer.   That helped.  Cal or sda, did you find any other alterations you liked?

[Cal Learner]

Ameridan: I did the 9 pt font mod. I assume that any number to patch would need to be single digit, and 9 is as good as it gets in decimal. I also set the global DPI scaling to 125%

I think I turned off ClearType, and that may have helped. It may have just been my imagination. If using ClearType, you should adjust that to the new setup.

Your question got me looking around. https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-change-scaling-for-specific-apps-in-windows-11 " How to change Scaling for Specific Apps in Windows 11" sounded really exciting, but I did not get it to do what I wanted... set the DPI for Money to some finer pitch than the windows default. Instead it seemed to only be set up to prevent a program that overrides scaling from overriding. Maybe I was wrong, but if the feature I was hoping for existed, I think I would have turned up discussion on it.

For finding stuff with no extra programs,

dir \surf*.mar /s

 would work in a command window. It takes a while to run to completion.

I usually use Agent Ransack AKA FileLocator Pro for finding files, not just by name.

[Ameridan (microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com)]

Cal or Sean Dayton, I like the look with the larger fonts.  The one negative I've noted are the options panels.  By any chance, do you know how to enlarge the options panels to accommodate the larger fonts?

[Cal Learner]

Ameridan, I made my first trip to Tools->AlertsCenter->CustomizeYourAdvisorFYIalerts->InvestmentAlerts.

I did not see that symptom. Maybe I lost my 9 pt setting, or something else is different.

[Ameridan (microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com)]

Thanks Cal.  fontnormal was the culprit.  By the way, Money crashes if you change Tahoma to Arial Narrow.  I ended up reverting back to original (thanks to my bk1 file ;) )