Eclipse Newsletter - MicroProfile (Deadline Content Sept 7)

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Hello everyone,

My name is Roxanne Joncas and I am the Marketing Specialist at the Eclipse Foundation. I am also the editor of the monthly Eclipse Newsletter, which currently has over 185,000 subscribers.

Each month, the newsletter features articles about a specific theme. For the September issue of the newsletter, we want to feature 4-8 articles about Eclipse MicroProfile. The objective is to create buzz around this awesome project and promote it's upcoming presence at the JavaOne conference on Oct 1-5.

For this newsletter, I need a minimum of 4 articles contributed by various authors. The deadline for content is September 7.

 

More details about the articles:

- The article can be a pre-existing article/blog post that is recycled for this newsletter.

- Length should be 500 words or more, but it really depends on the content.

- Format: html or Gdoc or plain text.

- Visual-aids are always a good idea (images, gifs, videos, code snippets, etc).

- The article should be technical, but written in a way so that beginners and advanced users can understand it.

Here are examples of published Eclipse Newsletter articles:

- Eclipse hawkBit - Software Updates in IoT

- Reactive Microservices with Eclipse Vert.x
- Language Server Protocol

- Get Started with JHipster4

Please do not hesitate to ask questions or communicate your concerns.

Roxanne

[ian.sk...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Just to add to this, we have discussed this topic at the MP marketing meetings and there was a lot of support for the idea. 

I would also like to suggest we have a guest editor(s) that can help select and review the article submissions. Any volunteers?

Ian

[John Clingan]

Thanks for the opportunity, Roxanne! I have linked to this discussion on a thread in the "newly created" MicroProfile Marketing google group.

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Thank, John!

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Don't be shy to volunteer or to give author/topic suggestions. I am new to this community and would really appreciate a push in the right direction. :)

Should I contact a specific individual directly to help me select and reach out to the appropriate authors for the articles?

[John Clingan]

It would be good to cover MicroProfile 1.1. Lemme see if I can find volunteers.

[Heiko Rupp]

I could write about Metrics and the motivation behind it, but then it may be that the Spec is not finished by the publication date - would writing something make sense anyway?

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

That would be great. 1.1 is important. Thanks, John.

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Heiko, that might work. Can you tell me more about Metrics and what would be in the article if you don't have the Spec by then?

[csaa...@redhat.com]

Hi Roxanne,

It looks like we have the following volunteers to author articles for the September 2017 Eclipse Newsletter featuring MicroProfile:

John Clingan (jcli...@redhat.com) - "What is Eclipse MicroProfile? High-level current status of open source project"

Scott Stark (sst...@redhat.com) - "MicroProfile JWT Security"

Heiko Rupp (hr...@redhat.com) - "MicroProfile Metrics"

Someone from Payara has already committed to author an article - <do not know what topic>

Someone from Tomitribe (working on getting a volunteer author) - <do not know what topic>

So, that's 4 articles for sure and 1 tentative.  Could you please reach out to each author individually to coordinate?

Thanks,

Cesar

csaa...@redhat.com

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[Emily Jiang]

Hi Roxanne,

I plan to write an article or two. The proposed topic:

"Why should I bother with MicroProfile Config?"

"Building a resilient Microservice? All you need is MicroProfile Fault Tolerance."

I plan to blog these topics as well.

Emily

[Heiko Rupp]

Cesar,

I have declined the Metrics one for timing reasons (spec, but also vacation) :-(  I will try to write something later in the year

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Hi,
We (KumuluzEE) can contribute an article "Towards service discovery and dynamic configuration" (provisional title). The article would address the microservice discovery and configuration using config servers. It will highlight some interesting challenges, such as registering and discovering microservices, versioning, client side load balancing, etc. It will also address dynamic configuration in context with MicroProfile Config.

We can also jump in for the MicroProfile Metrics article, if this would make sense. In addition to describing the spec, we can show a concrete example (we’ll have the initial implementation of Metrics ready by the end of this month).

Thanks,

Matjaz

 

[csaa...@redhat.com]

FYI,

Here's a spreadsheet with the folks that have volunteered so far to author articles for the Sep 2017 Eclipse Newsletter, which will feature Eclipse MicroProfile

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jZbQFdOqimLPkJWbdXxW0UJugXWNC7Ap9s5WWoXH-L4

Thanks,

Cesar

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Thanks. Also thanks for adding our proposal.
Best regards,
Matjaz

[Heiko Rupp]

Hi,

We can also jump in for the MicroProfile Metrics article, if this would make sense. In addition to describing the spec, we can show a concrete example (we’ll have the initial implementation of Metrics ready by the end of this month).

Not sure I get this. The spec is not (yet) complete. While we hope to have it soon, there is no guarantee that it works out. This was one of the reasons for me to reject the offer as of now. 

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Thank you very much for putting this list together, Cesar. I will reach out to the individual authors.

Thank you to Matjaz and Emily, as well, for volunteering.

This newsletter is shaping up to be a great one!

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 4:41:59 AM UTC+2, csaa...@redhat.com wrote:

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Hi Heiko,

I'm aware that the spec is not finished yet. I have read the specification and I think it’s written very well.

My understanding was that the article should describe the idea of collecting metrics with microservices, why it's important, and give insight how this will work. It should probably not go into the details of the spec?

Of course, if you think it’s too early, that’s no problem.

Regarding our implementation of Metrics – we have been working on our KumuluzEE Metrics implementation for a while, but have decided to align it with the current MP Metrics spec. We will of course incorporate forthcoming modifications of the spec.

Thanks and best regards,

Matjaz

[Andy Gumbrecht]

I know time is running out, but I plan to get back onto some MP Conference work and create an article around that process.

My only question is, what are acceptable delivery formats? I prefer to write everything in AsciiDoc these days.

Andy.

[Emily Jiang]

Asciidoc is good.

Emily

[ian.sk...@eclipse-foundation.org]

HTML, GDoc or Plain Text is preferred. 

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Andy, can you confirm the status of your article? I'm available if you have any further questions.

- Roxanne

[John Clingan]

I've been reviewing articles as guest editor for this newsletter. First, great job authors! These are much-needed articles to get the word out on MicroProfile and how to use the specifications. I am seeing is that the articles want to point to implementations, which is great because developers want to try out the specs. However, I am also seeing "X vendor is planning implementation", potentially leaving out other vendors that plan to implement specifications. Can we agree on a common  set of language that says "additional implementations are in progress"? 

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 7:48:08 AM UTC-7, roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org wrote:

[David Blevins]

Hi Roxanne,

I’ve seen some offline communication on the Tomitribe article.  I’d like to see if we can get something in.  An article celebrating Eclipse’s first JSR and the first JSR submitted by an open source organization would be a fantastic thing to feature.  It is ground breaking and shouldn’t be missed.  I can whip this up.  It might not be 500 words, but I’ll do what I can.

I understand the deadline is past but there might be flex.  Would end of day tomorrow or Friday give you enough time?

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[Roxanne Joncas]

Hi Dave, 

Thank you for volunteering. It should definitely be talked about! If you send it by Friday we can squeeze it in.

Please also send me a photo of yourself and links to social media accounts you'd like us to link to (blog, twitter, etc.)

Regards,

Roxanne

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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:15 AM, David Blevins <dble...@tomitribe.com> wrote:

Hi Roxanne,

I’ve seen some offline communication on the Tomitribe article.  I’d like to see if we can get something in.  An article celebrating Eclipse’s first JSR and the first JSR submitted by an open source organization would be a fantastic thing to feature.  It is ground breaking and shouldn’t be missed.  I can whip this up.  It might not be 500 words, but I’ll do what I can.

I understand the deadline is past but there might be flex.  Would end of day tomorrow or Friday give you enough time?

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On Sep 8, 2017, at 9:50 AM, John Clingan <jcli...@redhat.com> wrote:

I've been reviewing articles as guest editor for this newsletter. First, great job authors! These are much-needed articles to get the word out on MicroProfile and how to use the specifications. I am seeing is that the articles want to point to implementations, which is great because developers want to try out the specs. However, I am also seeing "X vendor is planning implementation", potentially leaving out other vendors that plan to implement specifications. Can we agree on a common  set of language that says "additional implementations are in progress"? 

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 7:48:08 AM UTC-7, roxanne.joncas@eclipse-foundation.org wrote:

Hello everyone,

My name is Roxanne Joncas and I am the Marketing Specialist at the Eclipse Foundation. I am also the editor of the monthly Eclipse Newsletter, which currently has over 185,000 subscribers.

Each month, the newsletter features articles about a specific theme. For the September issue of the newsletter, we want to feature 4-8 articles about Eclipse MicroProfile. The objective is to create buzz around this awesome project and promote it's upcoming presence at the JavaOne conference on Oct 1-5.

For this newsletter, I need a minimum of 4 articles contributed by various authors. The deadline for content is September 7.

 

More details about the articles:

- The article can be a pre-existing article/blog post that is recycled for this newsletter.

- Length should be 500 words or more, but it really depends on the content.

- Format: html or Gdoc or plain text.

- Visual-aids are always a good idea (images, gifs, videos, code snippets, etc).

- The article should be technical, but written in a way so that beginners and advanced users can understand it.

Here are examples of published Eclipse Newsletter articles:

- Eclipse hawkBit - Software Updates in IoT

- Reactive Microservices with Eclipse Vert.x
- Language Server Protocol

- Get Started with JHipster4

Please do not hesitate to ask questions or communicate your concerns.

Roxanne

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[Cesar Saavedra]

Hi Roxanne,

Were you able to get the number of articles you needed for the September Eclipse Newsletter?  How many MicroProfile articles will you guys include in it?

Thanks,

Cesar

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[Roxanne Joncas]

Hi Cesar,

Yes, thank you for all your help! With David's article we will have 7 MicroProfile articles in total, which is great. We typically aim for 6 articles per newsletter (min. 4 / max. 8).

Regards,

Roxanne

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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Cesar Saavedra <csaa...@redhat.com> wrote:

Hi Roxanne,

Were you able to get the number of articles you needed for the September Eclipse Newsletter?  How many MicroProfile articles will you guys include in it?

Thanks,

Cesar

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[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Thank you to all the authors for contributing. It's going to be a great newsletter! 

Here is the status for each article:

- John= ready Eclipse MicroProfile - Accelerating Enterprise Java Microservices

- Dominika  = ready + published on the Payara Blog MicroProfile Panel - One Year On

- Matjaz and Urban = ready Eclipse Microservices and Service Discovery

- Scott = ready Eclipse MicroProfile JWT RBAC Security (MP-JWT)

- Emily (2) = published draft to be approved Eclipse MicroProfile Config – what is it? + Building a resilient Microservice? All you need is Eclipse MicroProfile Fault Tolerance!

- David = content coming today (thanks again!)

@Emily, can you review the published drafts and let me know if they are ready for publication or require changes?

Publication information: I plan to send out the newsletter to subscribers and publish it on Wednesday, Sept 20. I will post it here (with a link and promo material for you to use) once it's ready to go.

[Emily Jiang]

Thank you Raxanne! I'll review these today.

Emily

[David Blevins]

Update - Still coming, haven’t actually slept yet so technically it’s still Friday for me ;)  Got a little happy with JCP data collection.

I can say for certain, in 383 JSRs from 106 leads over 18 years… Eclipse is definitely the first to break the foundation-lead JSR barrier.  Had to be absolutely sure :)  And a little data makes for a better story.

 ETA Saturday afternoon.  Thanks for the patience.

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[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Awesome! Thanks for the article. The published draft is coming your way today.

On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 1:41:56 PM UTC+2, David Blevins wrote:

Update - Still coming, haven’t actually slept yet so technically it’s still Friday for me ;)  Got a little happy with JCP data collection.

I can say for certain, in 383 JSRs from 106 leads over 18 years… Eclipse is definitely the first to break the foundation-lead JSR barrier.  Had to be absolutely sure :)  And a little data makes for a better story.

 ETA Saturday afternoon.  Thanks for the patience.

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[Amelia Eiras]

Hola Alex, 

-- Cc'd Roxanne from Eclipse. 

Just read your new MP blog: https://readlearncode.com/java-ee/eclipse-microprofile-5-things-you-need-to-know/

via tweeter post with link to MP tweeter dated today.

https://twitter.com/alextheedom/status/909800049114099712

It seems a bit "absurd" to miss such a cool blog while the amazing Eclipse Team is finalizing its Sept Newsletter on MP topics. 

Disclosure: I am not behind the fantastic & open coordination of this valuable effort lead by Roxanne & Ian.  Thank you for rocking it the way you have guys!  

First, I wonder if there is still space [currently 7 MP blogs written]  for an 8 blog? AND

Second, I am not speaking for you #usualsuspects Alex... your blog, your call, no pressure.   if space is available, first things first, can you provide your blog to Eclipse Sept newsletter MP series?  direct question,  no need to explain answer, YES or NO suffice given open pulling from me. :) 

Eclipse Team & Alex-- please disregard this HEY message, if no adjustments can be done. 

For the most part, I dislike private chatting on anything that doesn't require MP privacy, hence this msg. 

Happy Monday #MicroProfilers, 

[Amelia Eiras]

Hola Alex, 

-- Cc'd Roxanne from Eclipse. 

Just read your new MP blog: https://readlearncode.com/java-ee/eclipse-microprofile-5-things-you-need-to-know/

via tweeter post with link to MP tweeter dated today.

https://twitter.com/alextheedom/status/909800049114099712

It seems a bit "absurd" to miss such a cool blog while the amazing Eclipse Team is finalizing its Sept Newsletter on MP topics. 

Disclosure: I am not behind the fantastic & open coordination of this valuable effort lead by Roxanne & Ian.  Thank you for rocking it the way you have guys!  

First, I wonder if there is still space [currently 7 MP blogs written]  for an 8 blog? AND

Second, I am not speaking for you #usualsuspects Alex... your blog, your call, no pressure.   if space is available, first things first, can you provide your blog to Eclipse Sept newsletter MP series?  direct question,  no need to explain answer, YES or NO suffice given open pulling from me. :) 

Eclipse Team & Alex-- please disregard this HEY message, if no adjustments can be done. 

For the most part, I dislike private chatting on anything that doesn't require MP privacy, hence this msg. 

Happy Monday #MicroProfilers, 

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 2:26:17 AM UTC-7, roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org wrote:

[Alex Theedom]

Hi Amelia

It's nice to hear from you.

If I understand you correctly you are suggesting that my blog post (https://readlearncode.com/java-ee/eclipse-microprofile-5-things-you-need-to-know/) is included in the Eclipse Team Sept Newsletter on MP.  If that is the case then I am more than happy for that to happen. Please feel free to copy, paste, edit, add graphics, do what you like with it. Just grab it from my blog and it's all yours. I am more than happy to make a contribution to sure an awesome effort that you folks are doing.

Let me know if there is anything else you need or if I can help write more stuff like this. After J1 I am planning a few more articles and maybe a how-to series. You are more than welcome to syndicate them. 

Hope to see you at J1.

Kind regards

Alex Theedom

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[Roxanne Joncas]

Hi Alex and Amelia,

I coded it this morning so we can squeeze it in :) Here is the published draft: https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/september/article8.php

@Alex, it's great to virtually meet you. Please review it today and let me know if I got your profile right. 

Would you be willing to add the Eclipse MicroProfile themed Eclipse Newsletter to the Links you want to click section on your article page? It would be greatly appreciated :) I would send you a link tomorrow.

@Amelia, I will post the complete newsletter draft this afternoon on the MP Google Group.

The newsletter will be published tomorrow morning ET. 

Regards,

Roxanne

Roxanne Joncas

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[Alex Theedom]

Hey Roxanne. 

Nice to meet you too. 

The article looks great and the profile is right. No edits from me. I am happy to link back, as you suggest, just send me the link when you have it and I will make the addition.

Cheers

Kind regards

Alex Theedom

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[csaa...@redhat.com]

Great article Alex.

Who's editing these articles from the Eclipse MicroProfile leadership?  I know John Clingan had been acting as a guest editor but not sure if Kevin Sutter or anyone else is editing them.  At any rate, there's a section/table in Alex's article that compares Red Hat, IBM, Payara, and Tomitribe's implementations of MicroProfile with respect to the conference demo without mentioning any relation to the size of the microservice each implementation was executing and how measurements were taken.  Were there under load? The reason that I'm bringing this up is that, as a reader, I was left with the impression that TomEE was the best implementation of MicroProfile. We should strive to be vendor neutral in anything related to the community, in my opinion.  Is there anyway to fix the table so that it doesn't give this impression?

Cesar

[Roxanne Joncas]

Thanks for bringing that up, Cesar. I haven't asked John to review this article because it was a last minute addition and the original was already published on Alex's website.

@Alex would you be willing to fix it in your article?

Roxanne Joncas

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I think an asterisk or a comment saying that "measurements were taken without any performance tuning done to any of the implementations" would help. Also, a comment about the size of each microservice not being taken into account in the measurements (or the size of each microservice affecting the measurements).

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[Roxanne Joncas]

@Alex, can you please review Cesar's comments and confirm by end of day? Thank you.

Roxanne Joncas

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[Alex Theedom]

Hi Roxanne.

I have updated the original article with the following text under the table:

Each MicroProfile instance was launched on a different laptop machine (Windows or Mac) with distinct performance characteristic so these results should not be considered a scientific benchmark. What you should take away from this table is that all vendors performed excellently regardless of the operating system and hardware and that startup times are very short. Just imagine how much better the performance would be on a fully optimised cloud infrastructure.

Please feel free to edit it as you see fit so that it appears sufficiently vendor neutral. I am happy with whatever changes you want to make to the article you publish and you don't need me to get feedback from me. You have free reign. ;-)

@Cesar Thanks for your feedback

[Emily Jiang]

I had a quick glimpse of the article.

It is expected that version 2.0 will be far more extensive and is slated to include a subset of features from the backlog which are: configuration, security via JSON Web Tokens (JWT), health checks, JSON-Binding, monitoring, OpenTracing and fault tolerance. Plus it will align all APIs to Java EE 8.

The above sentence does not reflect the reality, as we have included Configuration, JWT, health check in the MP 1.2. I think rephrase for this is needed.

One typo in the following four, which should be for

Out of these motivating forces came four overriding objectives

I have not read this article closely though. These are the ones I found by chance.

For the new statement on the performance, if it is concrete, should it be removed as it can easily send a false statement for anyone missed the disclaimer (a lot of people just scan the articles)?

Thoughts?

Emily

[Cesar Saavedra]

@Alex: +1 on your edit clarifying your benchmark measurements. Thanks.

@Emily: are you proposing the removal of the vendor implementations comparison table from the article?

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[Emily Jiang]

My take is that a lot of people scan the text and look at the table without reading the disclaimer. They will get the false impression. If the data is not quite comparable, why should we include it? What message do we want to send?

Emily

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[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Thank you, Emily. Does adding a coloured box around the disclaimer make it better? View updated article here: https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/september/article8.php

I fixed the four typo.

Can you make a suggestion for the replacement of this sentence?

It is expected that version 2.0 will be far more extensive and is slated to include a subset of features from the backlog which are: configuration, security via JSON Web Tokens (JWT), health checks, JSON-Binding, monitoring, OpenTracing and fault tolerance. Plus it will align all APIs to Java EE 8.

[Alex Theedom]

Hi Emily

The "four" in the sentence "Out of these motivating forces came four overriding objectives" should be the number 4 as it refers to the subsequent four paragraphs which are the overriding objectives. Also, those four paragraphs should clearer, perhaps a list. I have updated to original https://readlearncode.com/java-ee/eclipse-microprofile-5-things-you-need-to-know/

Cheers

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

PLEASE DO NOT PROMOTE YET :)

Here is the draft Eclipse MicroProfile themed Eclipse Newsletter. It will be published tomorrow morning (Sept 20) Eastern Time.

[DRAFT] https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/september/

I welcome comments/minor fixes (typo, etc.) up until 11 AM CEST (Central European Summer Time) tomorrow, Sept 20.

[Cesar Saavedra]

Thank you Roxanne.  The magazine looks wonderful. I like the modifications you made to Alex's article.

I don't have time to read all the articles right now but I quickly browsed over David's article, which is a great read, by the way.  My only comment is that he makes a reference to Kevin Bacon's 6 degrees of separation in his first paragraph, but uses 7 degrees instead.  You may want to update this before it goes out.

Thanks again for coordinating all this and a BIG THANK YOU to all the authors.

Cesar

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[Alex Theedom]

I agree, looks fab.

Two edit suggestions on the article: Eclipse MicroProfile: 5 Things You Need to Know

1. change FOR back to FOUR: please see my post above for explanation

2. change sentence starting: "It is expected that version 2.0 will be far more extensive" to the updated version on my blog post.

Both the above-mentioned changes have been made to the original article: https://readlearncode.com/java-ee/eclipse-microprofile-5-things-you-need-to-know/ so you can see the changes I suggest to be made.

Cheers

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:26:48 UTC+1, Cesar Saavedra wrote:

Thank you Roxanne.  The magazine looks wonderful. I like the modifications you made to Alex's article.

I don't have time to read all the articles right now but I quickly browsed over David's article, which is a great read, by the way.  My only comment is that he makes a reference to Kevin Bacon's 6 degrees of separation in his first paragraph, but uses 7 degrees instead.  You may want to update this before it goes out.

Thanks again for coordinating all this and a BIG THANK YOU to all the authors.

Cesar

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:06 PM, <roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote:

PLEASE DO NOT PROMOTE YET :)

Here is the draft Eclipse MicroProfile themed Eclipse Newsletter. It will be published tomorrow morning (Sept 20) Eastern Time.

[DRAFT] https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/september/

I welcome comments/minor fixes (typo, etc.) up until 11 AM CEST (Central European Summer Time) tomorrow, Sept 20.

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[Matjaz B. Juric]

Hi Alex,

 

We have noticed that KumuluzEE is not listed in the table. In one or two hours, we will submit the KumuluzEE implementation of one of the services to the github project microprofile-conference and report the size and start-up time.

Please be so kind and include KumuluzEE once we send the data and provide the implementation. We appreciate it very much.

 

Thanks,

Matjaz

[Alex Theedom]

Hi Matjaz

Happy to make the update. However, bear in mind that I can only change the article published on my blog. To change the table in the  Eclipse MicroProfile themed Eclipse Newsletter article you MUST speak to Roxanne. I believe that she has edit access, I'm afraid I don't have edit access to that version of the article.

Cheers

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Hi Alex,

Thank you very much. Attached please find the report for the microservice-schedule. It includes the size and the startup time on a MacBook Pro 15 2014 notebook.

I will publish the link to the github repo with the source code shortly. You can make your own build and measure the startup yourself. Please do not hesitate to contact me for any questions.

I will also talk to Roxanne.

Thank you again,
Matjaz

[Alex Theedom]

Hi Matiaz

I have updated my post with KumuluzEE data. It now appears as below. Please, double check I have correctly extracted the data from the attached file.

Vendor	Microservice	JAR size/Mb	Start Up Time/Secs
WebSphere Liberty	Session Voting	35	7
WildFly Swarm	Session	65	6
Payara	Session Schedule	33	5
TomEE	Speaker	35	3
KumuluzEE	Session Schedule	23	16

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Hi Alex,

Sorry for not being more clear about the log file. the KumuluzEE size is 11 MB,  (not 23 MB)this is the row from the log:

-rw-r--r--  1 tilen  staff    11M Sep 19 20:50 microservice-schedule-kumuluzee.jar

 

and the startup time is 1.6 seconds (not 16 seconds), which can be seen here:

2017-09-19 20:51:29.874 INFO -- org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server -- Started @1605ms

2017-09-19 20:51:29.874 INFO -- com.kumuluz.ee.EeApplication -- KumuluzEE started successfully

 

Sorry for the confusion.

The project can be found here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference

The KumuluzEE microservice is here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference/tree/master/microservice-schedule-kumuluzee

The instructions how to build and run the microservice are here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference/blob/master/microservice-schedule-kumuluzee/README.adoc

(so you can verify the results)

We have also done the PR to the original repo: https://github.com/eclipse/microprofile-conference/pull/169

Please do not hesitate to contact me for questions.

Thanks,
Matjaz

[Alex Theedom]

Oops!!! Should be 2 seconds.

Vendor	Microservice	JAR size/Mb	Start Up Time/Secs
WebSphere Liberty	Session Voting	35	7
WildFly Swarm	Session	65	6
Payara	Session Schedule	33	5
TomEE	Speaker	35	3

KumuluzEE*

Session Schedule

23

2

[Alex Theedom]

Thanks Matjaz

I have updated my blog article. I don't have access to change the version on the Eclipse website. I think Roxanne is your contact there. Please discuss with her the changes you want to make to her copy. 

Cheers Alex.

Vendor	Microservice	JAR size/Mb	Start Up Time/Secs
WebSphere Liberty	Session Voting	35	7
WildFly Swarm	Session	65	6
Payara	Session Schedule	33	5
TomEE	Speaker	35	3

KumuluzEE*

Session Schedule

11

2

 

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:18:49 UTC+1, Matjaz B. Juric wrote:

Hi Alex,

Sorry for not being more clear about the log file. the KumuluzEE size is 11 MB,  (not 23 MB)this is the row from the log:

-rw-r--r--  1 tilen  staff    11M Sep 19 20:50 microservice-schedule-kumuluzee.jar

 

and the startup time is 1.6 seconds (not 16 seconds), which can be seen here:

2017-09-19 20:51:29.874 INFO -- org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server -- Started @1605ms

2017-09-19 20:51:29.874 INFO -- com.kumuluz.ee.EeApplication -- KumuluzEE started successfully

 

Sorry for the confusion.

The project can be found here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference

The KumuluzEE microservice is here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference/tree/master/microservice-schedule-kumuluzee

The instructions how to build and run the microservice are here: https://github.com/TFaga/microprofile-conference/blob/master/microservice-schedule-kumuluzee/README.adoc

(so you can verify the results)

We have also done the PR to the original repo: https://github.com/eclipse/microprofile-conference/pull/169

Please do not hesitate to contact me for questions.

Thanks,
Matjaz


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[Matjaz B. Juric]

Thanks Alex. Much appreciated.

I'll contact Roxanne to ask to include this in the Eclipse article as well.

Thanks again,
Matjaz

[Emily Jiang]

Hi Roxanne,

The colored box looks better. By the way, the following sentence is incorrect

It is expected that version 2.0 will be far more extensive and is slated to include a subset of features from the backlog which are: configuration, security via JSON Web Tokens (JWT), health checks, JSON-Binding, monitoring, OpenTracing and fault tolerance. Plus it will align all APIs to Java EE 8.

It could be rewritten to be or something similar:

MicroProfile 1.2 was released this month with quite a few amazing features, including Configuration 1.1, Fault Tolerance, JWT, Metrics and Health Check. It is expected that version 2.0 will align all APIs to JavaEE8.


Emily

[Emily Jiang]

Ignore my previous notes, as I missed Alex's updated version. It is amazing to find out we came up with similar sentences:o.

Emily

[Amelia Eiras]

Roxanne, Alex & all participating to get  8th article become a part of the Eclipse Sept newsletter MP series, your actions display a formidable level of collaboration & true OSS awesomeness.  Anyone observing thread ought to be blown away by the quick turnaround on task and the individual level of focus— each one of you ROCKs! :) 

Alex— in the future, whenever you might plan to write a MP blog, you are most welcomed to reach directly to microp...@googlegroups.com [MP general forum] AND  also cc’ microprofil...@googlegroups.com [Mktg forum].     AVOID private reaching to just 1 individual, own future updates, just as you do now! :)

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MP.io blog— The 8 MP blogs will also be posted on MP.blog after Eclipse formally share them in its systems. In addition to also posting  Payara’s 1 yr update blog.  

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To all,  if you are missing from the MP.io contributors list,  do send a PR via the MP git to get you listed as an active #MicroProfiler! :)  

Amelia Eiras 

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[Ondro Mihályi]

Hi Alex,

I also think that the Startup Time numbers in your article are a bit odd.

First thing, you the log of the TomEE JAR is a bit misleading - it doesn't show timestamps and it reports smaller time than it really takes to start the service.

Second thing, I measured all the services on my laptop (same setup for all services) and WildFly Swarm is by far the slowest to start, by a third of the time slower than any other service.

I tried to measure all services on my laptop (slower than your machine), and I got these numbers:

Vendor

Microservice

JAR size/Mb

Start Up Time/Secs

WebSphere Liberty

Session Voting

35

8
WildFly Swarm	Session	65	12
Payara	Session Schedule	33	8
TomEE	Speaker	35	7
KumuluzEE	Session Schedule	11	3

I also tested KumuluzEE and the startup speed is really impressive.

I always used the same command `date +%H:%M:%S.%N && java -jar service.jar` and compared the timestamp from the first line with the timestamp of the log record that reported application startup. I did it several times and picked the best result. 

For WildFly Swarm I tested even more times, but never got under 12s - I don't know why it should be any slower but I remember that I did a simlar comparison a year ago and WF Swarm was slower than Payara Micro with a similar ratio, both running the same app. 

For TomEE (Speaker service), I had to use a trick to find out the timestamp, because there's no timestamp in the console. TomEE creates a folder called .distribution in the local directory and there's a catalina log file which contains timestamps. Most of the time, TomEE reported "Server startup in 5382 ms" or something similar while the real time difference between the timestamp in catalina log and the date command at the start was around 7 seconds.

I believe that all services are similar enough that it doesn't make a difference which service is running with which runtime.

I want to conclude that these are only my comments on your findings to provide a feedback. I have no objections against the article, you did a great job and I really like the article!

Ondro

[Emily Jiang]

In light of what Ondro's experiment, I suggest the startup data should be removed or properly tested as it is not consistent. Good job with the experiment, Ondro!

Emily

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Thank you for all the feedback!

- David's article: I updated 7 degrees of separation to 6. (good catch Cesar).

- Alex's article: I changed for back to "four" and updated the paragraph: "MicroProfile 1.2 was released in September 2017 with quite a few amazing features, including Configuration 1.1, Fault Tolerance, JWT, Metrics and Health Check. It is expected that version 2.0 will align all APIs to Java EE 8."

About the table/startup times: It's normal for startup time to differ on different machines. To get an accurate measurement, I suggest setting up an Amazon EC2 machine and testing there. I am hiding the table and related paragraphs on the Eclipse Newsletter article version until then. 

Hidden section:

Examine the table below and as you can see the JAR size is minimal and the startup time extremely short. These numbers give any other Java EE framework a run for its money.

Vendor	Microservice	JAR size/Mb	Start Up Time/Secs
WebSphere Liberty	Session Voting	35	7
WildFly Swarm	Session	65	6
Payara	Session Schedule	33	5
TomEE	Speaker	35	3
KumuluzEE*	Session Schedule	11	2

Note: Each MicroProfile instance was launched on a different laptop machine (Windows or Mac) with distinct performance characteristic so these results should not be considered a scientific benchmark. What you should take away from this table is that all vendors performed excellently regardless of the operating system and hardware and that startup times are very short. Just imagine how much better the performance would be on a fully optimised cloud infrastructure.

[Matjaz B. Juric]

I’m sorry to hear that the table will be hidden. This table has been very informative and it gives great visibility to the size and performance of microservices, which is very important for developers to understand and bust the myth that Java EE is huge and slow.

This table makes the whole newsletter better and I’m sure the newsletter would have a much greater impact if the table stays in. Ondro has repeated the measurements yesterday in the same (controlled) environment. These numbers are without doubt trustworthy, maybe these should go into the table?

There has also been no doubt regarding JAR size, therefore it makes no sense hiding this. People should know that a Java EE microservice JAR is not 100-500 MB, but 10-50 MB. This is an important message.

Therefore, I suggest reconsidering this decision.

Thanks,
Matjaz

[Alex Theedom]

Hi Ondro.

The data in the table was lifted from a presentation given by David Blevins, Andy Gumbrecht and Mike Croft

at Devoxx Belguim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG-XvoIfKtg. The purpose of including the table was to give a very rough idea of the very low start-up times and JAR sizes rather than a comparison of vendor. 

Perhaps anonymize the vendor column, as the vendor is not the point of the table but the fast start-up and small JAR size. 

I think that proper benchmarking needs to be done to produce accurate meaningful results. If including this table will cause confusion and misleading conclusions it should be suppressed until such a time that scientific valid results can be presented.

[Cesar Saavedra]

Hi Roxanne, Alex,

AFAIK, MicroProfile 1.2 hasn't been officially released yet. The Eclipse release process for MicroProfile 1.2 has been started but I don't believe it's finished yet.  There had been a push to officially announce the release next Tuesday (a week prior to JavaOne) but at yesterday's Hangout, the idea of waiting until the Tuesday during JavaOne surfaced, which I believe is what's going to happen.

So, you may want to adjust Alex's article to say that MicroProfile 1.2 plans to release in October 2017 or something along those lines.

Thanks,

Cesar

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I wouldn't worry about this reference.  MP 1.2 will be completing this week.  The formal announcement may not happen until JavaOne, but the release will be finalized this week.

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[Emily Jiang]

Sounds good. As for the table, I still think what Roxanne has suggested makes sense. We need to make sure the data both accurate and useful. Losing either will miss the point.

Emily

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I wouldn't worry about this reference.  MP 1.2 will be completing this week.  The formal announcement may not happen until JavaOne, but the release will be finalized this week.

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-5, Cesar Saavedra wrote:

Hi Roxanne, Alex,

AFAIK, MicroProfile 1.2 hasn't been officially released yet. The Eclipse release process for MicroProfile 1.2 has been started but I don't believe it's finished yet.  There had been a push to officially announce the release next Tuesday (a week prior to JavaOne) but at yesterday's Hangout, the idea of waiting until the Tuesday during JavaOne surfaced, which I believe is what's going to happen.

So, you may want to adjust Alex's article to say that MicroProfile 1.2 plans to release in October 2017 or something along those lines.

Thanks,

Cesar

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:50 AM, Matjaz B. Juric <matjaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m sorry to hear that the table will be hidden. This table has been very informative and it gives great visibility to the size and performance of microservices, which is very important for developers to understand and bust the myth that Java EE is huge and slow.

This table makes the whole newsletter better and I’m sure the newsletter would have a much greater impact if the table stays in. Ondro has repeated the measurements yesterday in the same (controlled) environment. These numbers are without doubt trustworthy, maybe these should go into the table?

There has also been no doubt regarding JAR size, therefore it makes no sense hiding this. People should know that a Java EE microservice JAR is not 100-500 MB, but 10-50 MB. This is an important message.

Therefore, I suggest reconsidering this decision.

Thanks,
Matjaz

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The Eclipse Newsletter featuring Eclipse MicroProfile is now live! Thank you everyone for contributing 8 great articles. This was an awesome team effort. 

The newsletter has been sent to our newsletter subscribers and will be disseminated via the Eclipse Foundation channels. Please do promote it on your end as well!  Here are the details:

Link: https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/september/

Short link: http://eclip.se/cL

Sample tweet: Read the latest @EclipseFdn Newsletter featuring 8 articles about @MicroProfileIO #EclipseNewsletter http://eclip.se/cL

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We are partnering with JAXenter to expand our reach and readership for the Eclipse Newsletter articles. JAXenter would like to republish all Eclipse MicroProfile articles.

Do you agree to sharing the content with them for republication? If so, I will put you in touch with their editor, Gabriela. She will draft the articles and send them to the individual authors for review before they are published.

Please post your ok here and I will proceed on an article per article basis.

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Just rebroadcasted on all of MicroProfileIO social channels.  Thanks Roxanne.

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Thank you, Roxanne, for this wonderful newsletter!  It really does a nice job of highlighting the various activities of this community.

Thanks, Kevin

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Just rebroadcasted on all of MicroProfileIO social channels.  Thanks Roxanne.

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[Amelia Eiras]

Miercoles everyone, 

It is a yes to JAXenter re-publication  of TT's blog!

Thank you for being so transparent & amazing Roxanne! :) 

[Matjaz B. Juric]

Thank you, we would also like to participate in JAXenter republication.

The newsletter is great.

Best regards,
Matjaz

[Emily Jiang]

Thank you Roxanne! You did a superb job! It is yes from me on publishing my articles in JAXenter!

Emily

[roxanne...@eclipse-foundation.org]

Thank you everyone for the kind words and for sharing the newsletter!

Amelia, Matjaz and Emily, I will put you in touch with Gabriela.

Regards,

Roxanne