Microprofile on Weblogic

[Hari Babu Subaschandrabose]

Hi,

This topic has been created to discuss about how Microprofile on Weblogic works! How would I get the benefits of Microprofile if the application goes into Weblogic. Please do share your insights.

Thanks,
Hari

[Kevin Sutter]

Unfortunately, we are not aware of any Oracle efforts to support WebProfile in WebLogic.  The Oracle team is always welcome to participate with WebProfile and we would welcome another implementation of the specifications.  We're just not aware of any activity in this area.

--  Kevin

[Mark Little]

Hi Kevin.

I think you meant MicroProfile since I'm pretty sure WebLogic supports the WebProfile :)

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[Kevin Sutter]

Wow!  What a brain fart.  These traveling timezones must be taking their toll...  😁

I absolutely meant MicroProfile. 

Thanks, Mark. 

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On Oct 27, 2017 09:35, "Mark Little" <markc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Kevin.

I think you meant MicroProfile since I'm pretty sure WebLogic supports the WebProfile :)

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On 27 Oct 2017, at 07:55, Kevin Sutter <kwsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Unfortunately, we are not aware of any Oracle efforts to support WebProfile in WebLogic.  The Oracle team is always welcome to participate with WebProfile and we would welcome another implementation of the specifications.  We're just not aware of any activity in this area.

--  Kevin

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:26:56 AM UTC+2, Hari Babu Subaschandrabose wrote:

Hi,

This topic has been created to discuss about how Microprofile on Weblogic works! How would I get the benefits of Microprofile if the application goes into Weblogic. Please do share your insights.

Thanks,
Hari

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[Hari Babu Subaschandrabose]

Hi Kevin, Mark

Thanks for your response.

The idea is to migrate small services (not a pure microservices) that are written using Jersey, CDI, JPA, EclipseLink on Weblogic to MicroProfile stack so that I can get benefits of MicroProfile. Could you provide your insights on the approach?

Regards,

Hari

[Mike Croft]

Hi Hari,

As Kevin said, MicroProfile is not currently available in WebLogic and there have not been any announcements from Oracle that they would ever support MicroProfile in WebLogic.

If you want to use MicroProfile APIs, you will need to use an application server which implements the specification which, currently, means one of the following:

* WildFly Swarm

* Payara Micro

* Open Liberty / WebSphere Liberty
* TomEE

* Hammock

* KumuluzEE

[Mark Struberg]

To add a bit more insight.

MP up to including 1.2 is based on EE7. Plus a few more optional specs. 

If you use the EE7 version of WebLogic then you have all the parts on this area.

If you then add implementations for the other parts, then you also can use MicroProfile on a WebLogic server.

For config you can e.g. use geronimo-config [1].

I'm sure for the other specs there are also OSS based implementations.

LieGrue,

strub

[1] http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/config/geronimo-config-impl/1.0/

[Kevin Sutter]

I like that thinking, Mark.  A build-your-own MicroProfile solution.  Even sounds like a potential market opportunity for an enterprising consultant.  😁

-- Kevin 

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[Werner Keil]

Yep, I integrated aspects of MicroProfile into a custom framework on top of WebLogic (Java EE 7) for a recent client.

Werner

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[Mahendran Pandian]

Hi Werner,
 Can you share more insight to the custom framework?

 Is it a customized version of other implementations of microprofile?


Thanks,
Mahendran..

[Mark Struberg]

Heh, well I bet WebLogic will not become a MP certified server in the foreseeable future ;)

But technically there is nothing which blocks devs to just bring in and use selected MicroProfile technologies. 

MicroProfile is not an excluding circle but rather has an open and including mindset.

Of course, on a pre-packed MP server the integration might be a bit more elegant. But technically there is no blocker at least.

LieGrue,

strub

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[Werner Keil]

Given the new hype around Fn, I doubt Oracle really feels like claiming compatibility.

There is no blocker to apply most of the Microservice Patterns, that's exactly what I did for the custom framework, but as custom means "customer-specific" here, I'm afraid I can't share more than the patterns you'd find in MP or similar Microframeworks (like Dropwizard, Spring Boot) already. Everything else especially the "Externalized Configuration" pattern is already covered by this framework for some time. It was started at a time of at least Java EE 6 and contains a heavy Model-driven aspect, so it's fed with models (in the new version Eclipse EMF, earlier other tools like MagicDraw or StarUML) Other aspects it covers are typical Integration patterns like Apache Camel or Mule.

So it goes beyond MicroProfile or Spring but was missing a few bits like health check and metrics which is what I helped them include.

Werner 

[John Clingan]

Technically WebLogic does not support WebProfile. However, WebLogic has had a feature to not enable all of the containers to offer a runtime experience similar to Web Profile.

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:35:06 AM UTC-7, Mark Little wrote:

Hi Kevin.

I think you meant MicroProfile since I'm pretty sure WebLogic supports the WebProfile :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2017, at 07:55, Kevin Sutter <kwsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Unfortunately, we are not aware of any Oracle efforts to support WebProfile in WebLogic.  The Oracle team is always welcome to participate with WebProfile and we would welcome another implementation of the specifications.  We're just not aware of any activity in this area.

--  Kevin

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:26:56 AM UTC+2, Hari Babu Subaschandrabose wrote:

Hi,

This topic has been created to discuss about how Microprofile on Weblogic works! How would I get the benefits of Microprofile if the application goes into Weblogic. Please do share your insights.

Thanks,
Hari

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[Mark Struberg]

Hmm, of course WebLogic is not a WebProfile server but Full Profile.

But _each_ Full Profile EE Server includes *all* bits and pieces of WebProfile.

And if you look at the TCK readmes then you will notice that every Full Profile server *must* pass the WebProfile TCK part as well.

It's just like using a big Bus as a Taxi. It is probably way too much, but technically it works.

LieGrue,

strub

Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 21:11:21 UTC+1 schrieb John Clingan:

Technically WebLogic does not support WebProfile. However, WebLogic has had a feature to not enable all of the containers to offer a runtime experience similar to Web Profile.

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:35:06 AM UTC-7, Mark Little wrote:

Hi Kevin.

I think you meant MicroProfile since I'm pretty sure WebLogic supports the WebProfile :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2017, at 07:55, Kevin Sutter <kwsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Unfortunately, we are not aware of any Oracle efforts to support WebProfile in WebLogic.  The Oracle team is always welcome to participate with WebProfile and we would welcome another implementation of the specifications.  We're just not aware of any activity in this area.

--  Kevin

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:26:56 AM UTC+2, Hari Babu Subaschandrabose wrote:

Hi,

This topic has been created to discuss about how Microprofile on Weblogic works! How would I get the benefits of Microprofile if the application goes into Weblogic. Please do share your insights.

Thanks,
Hari

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[Werner Keil]

Yes it is more like a bus or (in case of our target solution) big container ship compared to say a yacht.

At least for one of the emulators I wrote for that kind of client I stuck to Web Profile mostly with CDI, JSF, JPA or Bean Validation. JAX-RS based services were closer to MicroProfile because they also got features like health check or metrics, but JAX-RS is not part of the Web Profile right now (https://jaxenter.com/introducing-the-java-ee-web-profile-103275.html)

Maybe something to consider in EE4J btw, it's a bit of a paradox. And looking at MicroProfile having just those 3 relatively independent artifacts as a core dependency so could JSON-P.

Werner