State record in women's 300 hurdles?

[Jonathan Gunnells]

I noticed this today while sifting through regional results.

I don't know what type of timing system they use at the Saline regional, but if it is FAT, I believe this would be the state record for D-1 as well as the other divisions and classes.

1. Christienne Linton, Romulus, 42.35


Here are the previous bests per MHSAA.COM

300-Meter Hurdles
LP Division 1:      42.89, Kathleen LaValley, Grand Rapids Forest Hills Central, 2003  
LP Division 2:      42.82, Tiffany Ofili, Ypsilanti, 2005            
LP Division 3:      44.82, Amy Myler, Ann Arbor Gabriel Richard, 2007         
LP Division 4:      45.49, Jennifer Wendling, New Lothrop, 2000
LP Class A:       42.4, Carolyn Ferguson, Benton Harbor, 1984
LP Class B:         44.0, Paulette Bryant, Southgate Aquinas, 1984
LP Class C:         44.49, Naheed Irani, Onsted, 1990
LP Class D:         44.82, Marnie Peplinski, Maple City Glen Lake, 1992
UP Division 1:     46.50, Shannon Helminen, Calumet, 2006
UP Division 2:     46.65, Ellary Renier, Norway, 2005
UP Division 3/D: 47.46, Sara Boyer, Rapid River, 1998
UP Class A-B:    45.3, Tiffany Hodge, Menominee, 1994
UP Class C:        46.2, Lynne Scholie, Hancock, 1983

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Jon Gunnells
Crestwood Track and Field

[Wytko, Daniel]

Most likely not FAT, although many regionals that used a Finish Lynx system did the following:

 

1. Manually started and stopped the timing system of the first place runner.
2. Entered the first place time into the Lynx system, then determined times and places using the photos.

 

This seems to be very accurate in terms of reducing error to the amount that we are allowed to reduce the error without using FAT.

 

My only concern is if this was used across the board at all regionals within a division (such as D1, or D2, etc.) This is where we could get into discussion about fairness.

 

Daniel J. Wytko 

Physics & Forensic Science Instructor | Head Cross Country and Track & Field Coach | Portage Invite Co-meet Director

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[Wytko, Daniel]

Also, remember that these are MHSAA Finals records, which can only be obtained at the MHSAA Finals. The old Class A,B,C,D records will stand. The Division records can fall at the MHSAA Finals.

 

 

 

Daniel J. Wytko 

Physics & Forensic Science Instructor | Head Cross Country and Track & Field Coach | Portage Invite Co-meet Director

Office: 269.323.5233 | Cell: 269.806.7001 | Fax: 269.323.5360

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From: Michi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:Michi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gunnells
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:08 PM
To: Mich T&F
Subject: State record in women's 300 hurdles?

 

I noticed this today while sifting through regional results.

[jeffhol...@aol.com]

For the state records that are recognized on the michtrack site, as opposed to MHSAA meet records, we insist on fully FAT times for sprints and hurdles (same guidelines used by IAAF and USATF).

With FAT timing, this could well have been faster than the state record (FAT). Ironically, it was the second time in recent years that we've lost a state record at the Saline regional because of lack of FAT timing.

Sigh. Maybe next year we can get it together and start using FAT at all regionals.

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[Timpa, Michael]

Does anyone know if there is a rule that prohibits a pole being taped from the top down, vs. bottom up?

 

Michael T. Timpa

mti...@cvs.k12.mi.us

 

Mathematics Instructor

Dakota High School

Cross Country /Track & Field

[David Emeott]

The rules do not stipulate either way but if you tape top down the tape will eventually ripple. When the tape ripples down the pole it will then be more than 2 layers thick.


You should always tape a pole from bottom up, no more than 2 layers thick.

Good Luck,

David Emeott
Mathematics
East Kentwood High School
Men's Track and Field Coach
616-698-6700 ext. 42821


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[Michael Smith]

It was not FAT.

 

Michael Smith

Saline Track and Field

[James Chapman]

Unfortunately the MHSAA will not allow FAT for regional meets. That is the problem. You are taking a potential chance for a record performance away from an athlete because the MHSAA refuses to allow schools to use FAT.   I have worked with the head timer at Saline several times and he is very good, but he still isn't automatic timing.   The MHSAA needed to allow schools that have FAT or have access to it to use it and find a reasonable adjustment to FAT times for AQ standards. 0.24 is not an accurate adjustment from FAT to HT when we are talking about non-professional timers.   IIRC the 0.24 was developed using information from what are basically professional timers on the European Track circut. We don't have many times that are that good in the state.   Jim Chapman --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Michael Smith <smi...@saline.k12.mi.us> wrote: