What Happens On The Rez... In Tamil Pdf Download
Kuldip Mansager
many times in the last months I heard of experienced Scoundrel/Op-Healers and Assassines/Shadows, that were trying to do a stealth rez and got mysteriously pulled back into combat, so that their attempt to revive a dead member of their raid team failed. To help those, who want to help their group by doing such a revive, I'll try to formulate a guide for stealth-rezzing.
So, the first question is: What is a stealth rez? Every player has an ability, called "Revive" at their Skill-window under the category "general". This ability has no cooldown on healing-classes. On other classes, it has a roughly 16 minutes CD. I would suggest to put it onto one of your bars, somewhere near your Holostatue of Revan, your pyro-grenades or your priority transports. Usually, you don't need a keybind. Never use it with right-clicking at the dead bodie of your team member. With this ability, you can revive an allied player, as long, as you are out of combat. Yes, you can use it, while a boss-fight is going on. You just have to be out of combat.
But how do we get out of combat? There are two ways: 1. You can use your cloak-ability. Both, shadow and scoundrel have an ability, that puts them out of any threat-list and, more important, takes them out of combat. 2. You are dead and got rezzed by someone else. I know, usually the tomatoe-sentinels are jumping right back into the bad AoE's, after they got rezzed. However, after a rez, you are not in combat. You can easily start a normal revive on one of the other dead players.
Cloak has a very long CD, so you shouldn't just stealth out and hope for the best. Before you leave combat, you have to make yourself an overview about the situation and consider some things. I could write a huge novel about everything, but I think, an easy list can also do it's job.
Oh, and to top it up, you have to consider those things very fast. The window for a stealth rez is very small. A stealth rez is worth everytime, when the raid cannot beat the boss without the dead person. Better give it a try, instead of making an appointment with the enrage-timer. It is also worth trying, when it has no negative effect, when it doesn't work, but when you can possibly save the combat rez for later use (e.g. Draxus between phases, when just a subteroth is left).
So, now you are ready to cloak. Are you? No, there are some more things to consider, that would pull you back in combat: You have to avoid several interactions between you and something (a member of your team or an enemy) that is in combat.
When you consider all these points, a stealth rez would go through. However, there is also some magic effect, that sometimes pulls you back into combat without any noticeable reason. This happens sometimes, but is often used due to missing knowledge of the things mentioned above. I would be glad about any information about other reasons, why stealth rezzes can fail.
All in all, I hope, this wall of text will help some raids to not slash-stuck, when hope is still alive. Nothing is lost, until every option is used. A stealth rez is possible in every boss fight, that is currently ingame.
Maybe a month ago, Olok: one dead healer near the elevator door below, shields up and no combat happening. I'm (assassin) already out of combat as it happens often there in between adds when stealthing out rotationally. I go for the rez (I'm miles away from everybody and nobody was doing anything anyway all waiting for the next adds to become killable) and I'm immediately pulled back into combat. I figure I messed up something. Next shield I make sure to check everything (no guard, which I sometimes forget about, no hots and most certainly no dots as I was playing deception) and try again. Again failure. I wish I had been recording because I can't figure out what I did wrong.
Did anyone buffs the group with its class-buffs? I didn't mentioned it in the thread, because I already had situations, where this did not pulled me back into combat, but sometimes it looks like it does so.
in any case if the way u stated works, i will work on this new way - i used to stelth rez many times - but after the "right click feature" it was impossible. (after exactly 2 secs i got into combat again)
or please do teach me how u are still able to stelth rez in operations cause i simply cant do it anymore after they made us all enter in combat exactly at 2 seconds when right clicking some dead player. please do share your wisdom.
This. There can be absolutely nothing going on - no HoTs, no DoTs, no Guard, no Buffs, no raid-wide damage, no add spawns - and stealth rez will still fail exactly two seconds into the cast. I've yet to see anyone explain how they get around this : (
I don't say, that it doesn't work via right-click. However, it happens to me more then one time, that my character started using basic attack (it is normally keybinded at right-ckick) instead of started rezzing.
In general, I often heard about the 2-second-problem mentioned in some posts, but it happens very rarely to me. On Tuesday, I rezzed a healer at C-Zero, DF NiM. Yesterday, I was able to rez a DPS at Hateful and another DPS at Raptus HM. I identified the Guard as a problem. As soon as I put it off, I only got interupted very very rarely.
I was able to stealth rez a few times in Eyeless yesterday, finally (lol 22min fight in HM16). One attempt failed at the two second mark with no damage taken or heals received. One other attempt failed because a healer bubbled me mid-cast. Got 3-4 stealth rezzes off without issue, though.
I'm gonna need to do some more testing, though. Like I said, it did fail once with no apparent reason for the failure. I'd like to take more shots at it in a fight where no adds spawn and there are only two healers in the op - both in voice - so they can keep their bubbles off me when I'm doin' the thing : )
Yeah, the 2-second-thing is strange. We had several situations within the last days. Our other stealthers weren't able to finish a single revive. I were able to reproduce it, in a situation, when I did not had the time to remove the guard. And then it ends exactly at the 2-second-mark. Maybe, it's not just a guard between you and someone else, but any guard, that is actively given while the revive is in progress.
It maybe also have something to do with debuffs on a certain target, that are falling of, while the rez is casting. It's also possible, that a debuff, that gets triggered (e.g. a tank-debuff, that reduces the mr-damage-output, gets triggered by the target shooting with his blaster), is forcing you back into combat. I'll try to keep an eye on this in our next raids, by placing a debuff on an active target and then trying to stealth out and rez.
There's only so much that pulls you into combat in an instanced area: Dealing damage, taking damage, healing others(including roaming mend, since the heal bouncing off of you counts as you healing someone), adds spawning. That's it. Nothing to do with guard or buffs or anything else. Especially since these kind of things could be seen in a log. They aren't. In the instances where this happens, there's not even a "entering combat" logged anywhere.
Note that my 3-4 successful stealth rezzes in Eyeless the other day were all done with the actual 'Revive' skill on my quickbar. I did used to just right click the body, but someone (I think in this thread) said that may be an issue, so now I'm trying to use the actual Revive skill explicitly.
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