The End Of Me Kyle Idleman Pdf

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KyleIdleman is the Teaching Pastor at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Kentucky and he has written a popular book titled Not a Fan. Idleman, Kyle (2011-06-07). Not a Fan: Becoming a Completely Committed Follower of Jesus Zondervan. Kindle Edition

You are right also in that God does not make people believe. They choice is given to them through the communication of the gospel whether spoken or written. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Faith does not come be being zapped. with the gift of faith for those few who are pre-selected.

The bottom line is that the two gospels are not the same. Some people will say so what, I like the discipleship gospel that I am used to and others will say amen, thanks for standing for the grace gospel and true good news of Christ.

Thanks Jim, we seem to be in the minority position as we near His soon return keep up the defence of the true Gospel.

When googling to find info on this there are scant sites exposing this book for what it is ,glad I found your valuable insights .

Faith alone in Christ alone

In Him

Doug

Pastors have made a mess with too many interpretations. Everyone thinks they are correct. Too much man made doctrine and dogma. The Sermon on the Mount tells us what we need. Even that has a multitude of interpretations. Too many people making money from mans theology.

This is said in James 2 TO believers, identified as such by the writer who was inspired by the Holy Spirit. He called them believers, brethren, with the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. They were eternally secure, but not demonstrating their faith before others. Their faith was dead, not non-existent, much like a battery. It needed charged up so it was useful. You might really consider using Scripture more with your thinking.

John 5:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

But I simply cannot stress enough for people that no amount of following or obedience in the Christian life has anything to do with obtaining eternal salvation. That is already paid for and the only non-meritorious thing you can do is receive it through faith.

Yes faith without works is dead. But remember the context of that is eternally saved people that are not showing their faith by their works. Their faith is dead in terms of usefulness for those that are needy. It is also a terrible testimony. Even the demons at least had some response out of what they knew.

Jeff, ok. Harmonize what? The context of John 3:16 is the story of Nicodemus. Christ was using the illustration of the serpent in the wilderness to help Nicodemus understand that in the same fashion, people will be able to look to Him for salvation. It is the look of faith. In chapter 4 he likens it to a drink of water and later as eating the bread of life. Same concept.

I call his gospel the discipleship gospel because if you look at the quote for page 32, you see where he says believing is not enough. He says the also has to be a commitment. But the Bible says all you can do is believe. Christ is the one that paid it all. Commitment is fine for the Christian walk, not as an additional condition necessary to receive eternal life. I get that people want to ensure converts are real and they want people to grow, but grabbing things from the realm of Christian living and adding them to conversion is not the way to go.

Thanks for stopping by Timothy. Unfortunately men like Idleman can see some true problems with various ministries but he needs to be able to properly explain the gospel. It is correct that the offer of salvation ought not be a sales pitch. Nor should a person recite a prayer for eternal salvation. A person needs to simple receive what Christ has done by faith. All of the works was done by him. We only need to believe.

There are a number of ways to look at this. Jesus desired to seek and to save that which was lost. He desires believers fulfill their calling to service as believers. Remember God does not want any to perish so that is first. He desires that all come to repentance. Then for believers, he desires that all go on to maturity bearing much fruit and laying up much treasure in heaven. But He knows not all believers will do so. There is the Bema seat judgement for believers to receive reward for the good done for the Lord. The Bible mentions some will be saved yet so as by fire. Some will see everything burn up before the Lord but the Lord nonetheless keeps them with Him and out of eternal damnation. Because it was provided by grace not merit.

Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Have you considered that 1) tongues were to be a known spoken language 2) that the interpretation was to be given and 3) that upon completion of the canon of scripture there is no more need for the sign gifts? My view is then that they have ceased.

1 Cor 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

1 Cor 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

I hope that you come to learn the difference between the free offer of eternal life which is instantaneous and a gift that is irrevocable, and discipleship, which is our walk here in this lifetime and matters, not just for us, but for others.

My Response: Paul is talking in Gal 5 of the difference between being under the law and being under grace. Remember that many of these believers were bewitched into thinking that they could be made perfect through the law and the like. But Paul tells them not to go back to that law bondage:

Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Gal 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

Gal 5:8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Gal 5:10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

He is NOT saying that people that practice those sins are lost. He is telling them to walk in the Spirit given their position. Verse 24 is a positional truth as a reminder for them. They have crucified the flesh should why should they think they need the law or why should they think it ok to sin.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (You could but God forbids it)

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (You could choose to sin and suffer consequences or choose to obey)

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. (We once had no power over sin but did believe)

Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Rom 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

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