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Arctagon

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Apr 28, 2011, 11:14:37 AM4/28/11
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Over the past few days I have run quite a few 1 million iteration
simulations as a continuation of the post Tangedyn made on his blog
about this topic (http://theincbear.com/mew-and-rsvs/). Considering it
can take over five hours for one simulation, it certainly takes some
time when you are going to conduct quite the number of them.

I based the simulations on the Balanced profile in the blog post, but
reforged a few pieces, like the gloves, which I reforged in order to
gain a higher mastery rating. What I find odd, is that I land at a
lower DPS than the results displayed in the blog post. Either
different settings are used (I thought pre-potion could be one of
them, since I didn't use it, but it appears to be broken anyway), or
different Mew versions. I doubt the latter could have such a big
impact on the DPS, though.

On the second run, I got a very interesting result, where haste came
out at almost 0.1 DPS better than mastery per point of haste rating.

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=162,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=false, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=3, Target.CastLength=0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=false, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=false, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=false, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1121, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2066, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=188, Procs.items=58181,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=false, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=false, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=0,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5048, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=444,
WeaponTop=62331, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=62329,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Buff.SpellHaste=false, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=false, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=382, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1086}

DPS: 23100.12636 +/- 1.10696
Min/Max DPS: 20633.22333 / 25874.79667
StdDev: 564.77326
DPS (> 25%): 22363.45111
DPS (< 25%): 25310.15212
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 9.7543
Crit % for White: 38.42281
Crit % for Yellow: 38.3839
Crit Cap % for White: 66.2457
Attack Speed: 0.80645
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.91612
OoC Proc Return: 33.28754
Energy Regen (e/s): 17.95886
Number Mangles: 14.88119
Mangle Uptime (%): 99.96396
Number Shreds: 90.26828
Number Rakes: 23.45734
Rake Uptime (%): 98.20119
Number Rips: 11.25641
Rip Uptime (%): 94.98778
Number Savage Roars: 9.46977
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 94.59372
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.83998
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 16.22507
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.02712
Crit % for Bite: 59.03046
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.10713
Number Tiger's Furys: 10
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 19.99994
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 13.33333
Segment Time (s): 300
Averaged Armor Value: 10549.45911
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.80763
White Damage (%) : 19.06866
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.67291
Ravage Damage (%): 0.57777
Mangle Damage (%): 2.74525
Shred Damage (%): 25.87446
Rake Damage (%): 19.32451
Rip Damage (%): 25.91709
Bite Damage (%): 2.81936
Avg. White Attack: 3550.96124
Avg. Ravage Attack: 37990.40178
Mangle DPE: 396.2735
Shred DPE: 538.96891
Rake DPE: 1770.10656
Rip DPE: 4255.07703
Bite DPE: 689.58695
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.30438
Fluid Death Uptime (%): 99.97207
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.33333


Elapsed Time: 15872.786397991 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.258099282691146 +/- 0.015727148033203107
Agility: 2.9958920300338288 +/- 0.015743614295326756
Attack Power: 1.0734168932640933 +/- 0.007861823589803526
Haste Rating: 1.2130654458280696 +/- 0.01566696531910201
Crit Rating: 1.0185913468617218 +/- 0.015675007156422345
Mastery Rating: 1.1299147031605754 +/- 0.015679585764204265
Hit Rating: 0.9596625611028867 +/- 0.01564543921007087
Expertise Rating: 0.9523061799357311 +/- 0.015644762969677144
Weapon DPS: 4.572864512523047 +/- 0.015832457768154274


The highest amount of DPS I got didn't have crit and haste as close to
together as I could get it. Here is the report, should there be need
for it:

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=162,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=false, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=3, Target.CastLength=0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=false, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=false, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=false, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1171, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2066, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=188, Procs.items=58181,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=false, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=false, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=0,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5048, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=444,
WeaponTop=62331, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=62329,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Buff.SpellHaste=false, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=false, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=382, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1036}

DPS: 23123.94432 +/- 1.10674
Min/Max DPS: 20302.56 / 25864.19
StdDev: 564.66209
DPS (> 25%): 22375.49321
DPS (< 25%): 25369.29766
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 9.7543
Crit % for White: 38.14551
Crit % for Yellow: 38.10582
Crit Cap % for White: 66.2457
Attack Speed: 0.80214
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.93676
OoC Proc Return: 33.2949
Energy Regen (e/s): 18.01624
Number Mangles: 14.88768
Mangle Uptime (%): 99.96396
Number Shreds: 90.70759
Number Rakes: 23.45858
Rake Uptime (%): 98.22692
Number Rips: 11.2569
Rip Uptime (%): 95.0096
Number Savage Roars: 9.46948
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 94.61474
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.84013
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 16.25957
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.04235
Crit % for Bite: 58.81376
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.10728
Number Tiger's Furys: 10
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 19.99994
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 13.33333
Segment Time (s): 300
Averaged Armor Value: 10549.45697
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.80763
White Damage (%) : 19.15583
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.68009
Ravage Damage (%): 0.57791
Mangle Damage (%): 2.73463
Shred Damage (%): 25.92574
Rake Damage (%): 19.26439
Rip Damage (%): 25.83791
Bite Damage (%): 2.82349
Avg. White Attack: 3551.78088
Avg. Ravage Attack: 38033.83896
Mangle DPE: 394.965
Shred DPE: 538.00132
Rake DPE: 1766.43665
Rip DPE: 4245.19499
Bite DPE: 688.95556
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.2235
Fluid Death Uptime (%): 99.97215
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.33333


Elapsed Time: 15141.699117345 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.2589466084589365 +/- 0.015724021855798992
Agility: 3.000174244732334 +/- 0.01574141773004233
Attack Power: 1.073827412598257 +/- 0.00786026161152599
Haste Rating: 1.0544976708634204 +/- 0.01565296873152338
Crit Rating: 1.0249875748193154 +/- 0.01567118151776321
Mastery Rating: 1.1275989455386661 +/- 0.015676473437583358
Hit Rating: 0.9522860986995875 +/- 0.015638143031339556
Expertise Rating: 0.9448119188663986 +/- 0.01563861676993811
Weapon DPS: 4.5855015414263836 +/- 0.015829242398807005


In the simulation where I got crit and haste to be as close as
possible, the haste rating was 1179 and the crit rating was 1028 (here
is the profile: http://www.chardev.org/?profile=109539). Haste was
still valued slightly over crit, but I didn't manage to get closer
than that. I managed to get 1183 haste/1024 crit and 1182 haste/1025
crit, but in both cases haste plummeted to the bottom, right behind
hit and expertise. Should it be possible to get closer to the perfect
balance than this, it must either be at 1080 haste/1027 crit or 1081
haste/1026 crit (or possibly by changing the reforging completely, but
that would add a lot of extra work).

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=162,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=false, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=3, Target.CastLength=0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=false, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=false, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=false, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1179, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2066, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=188, Procs.items=58181,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=false, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=false, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=0,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5048, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=444,
WeaponTop=62331, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=62329,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Buff.SpellHaste=false, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=false, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=382, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1028}

DPS: 23121.92345 +/- 1.10651
Min/Max DPS: 20412.97 / 26017.05333
StdDev: 564.54538
DPS (> 25%): 22373.33985
DPS (< 25%): 25367.67427
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 9.7543
Crit % for White: 38.10965
Crit % for Yellow: 38.05924
Crit Cap % for White: 66.2457
Attack Speed: 0.80214
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.93803
OoC Proc Return: 33.31056
Energy Regen (e/s): 18.02235
Number Mangles: 14.89384
Mangle Uptime (%): 99.96396
Number Shreds: 90.74896
Number Rakes: 23.448
Rake Uptime (%): 98.2425
Number Rips: 11.25745
Rip Uptime (%): 95.02174
Number Savage Roars: 9.47023
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 94.63829
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.84172
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 16.2623
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.04266
Crit % for Bite: 58.74218
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.10727
Number Tiger's Furys: 10
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 19.99993
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 13.33333
Segment Time (s): 300
Averaged Armor Value: 10549.45704
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.80763
White Damage (%) : 19.15925
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.68123
Ravage Damage (%): 0.57782
Mangle Damage (%): 2.73517
Shred Damage (%): 25.93376
Rake Damage (%): 19.25931
Rip Damage (%): 25.83083
Bite Damage (%): 2.82263
Avg. White Attack: 3552.10391
Avg. Ravage Attack: 38024.57512
Mangle DPE: 394.83845
Shred DPE: 537.85467
Rake DPE: 1766.52337
Rip DPE: 4243.48888
Bite DPE: 688.76919
Fluid Death Uptime (%): 99.97217
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.22817
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.33333


Elapsed Time: 15371.958139931 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.258525396731602 +/- 0.01572074838107586
Agility: 2.9984577449315113 +/- 0.01573690904807654
Attack Power: 1.0736256494630834 +/- 0.007858625783836354
Haste Rating: 1.0391494073345167 +/- 0.015663584770813414
Crit Rating: 1.021562664988378 +/- 0.015668920786634014
Mastery Rating: 1.127199261364658 +/- 0.015673201683265345
Hit Rating: 0.9474186741903395 +/- 0.01563854424072188
Expertise Rating: 0.939873759590555 +/- 0.015639079113173138
Weapon DPS: 4.585403067940933 +/- 0.015826199855542594


Lastly, for some odd reason the reports say that agility is 390 more
than it actually is, and that attack power is 492 lower than it
actually is.

Arctagon

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Apr 28, 2011, 1:16:03 PM4/28/11
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I forgot to add this to the original post, but perhaps the reason
behind haste being better than mastery in one of the simulations is
because haste was near some sort of breakpoint?

Odas

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Apr 29, 2011, 11:14:13 PM4/29/11
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I did a sim with 1 million iterations on my own gear and this is the
report:

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=391,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Simulator.Seed=-1558139828,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=8,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=true, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=2, Target.CastLength=0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=true, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=true, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=true, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1353, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2116, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=0, Procs.items=65140,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=true, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=true, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=5,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5709, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=445,
WeaponTop=70351, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=true,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=70349,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=true, Buff.SpellHaste=true, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=true, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=262, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=true,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1358}

DPS: 25772.8426 +/- 1.22029
Min/Max DPS: 22688.4464 / 28842.30845
StdDev: 622.59899
DPS (> 25%): 24958.48812
DPS (< 25%): 28215.90603
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 12.31864
Crit % for White: 43.22657
Crit % for Yellow: 43.2928
Crit Cap % for White: 63.68136
Attack Speed: 0.79184
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.87492
OoC Proc Return: 32.58869
Energy Regen (e/s): 18.09813
Number Mangles: 15.5017
Mangle Uptime (%): 100
Number Shreds: 93.24269
Number Rakes: 24.25242
Rake Uptime (%): 98.74751
Number Rips: 10.94144
Rip Uptime (%): 95.89606
Number Savage Roars: 9.59567
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 95.23051
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.90301
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 16.88823
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.14246
Crit % for Bite: 62.09148
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.13956
Number Tiger's Furys: 10.07384
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 20.05433
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 13.33472
Segment Time (s): 300.05005
Averaged Armor Value: 10467.92951
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.64123
White Damage (%) : 19.37159
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.60994
Ravage Damage (%): 0.58875
Mangle Damage (%): 2.80116
Shred Damage (%): 25.95843
Rake Damage (%): 19.20957
Rip Damage (%): 25.63566
Bite Damage (%): 2.8249
Avg. White Attack: 3951.98147
Avg. Ravage Attack: 42542.10402
Mangle DPE: 443.07853
Shred DPE: 597.37503
Rake DPE: 1942.26892
Rip DPE: 4972.03333
Bite DPE: 764.06649
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.3342
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.2579
Essence of the Cyclone (372) Uptime (%): 19.26018


Elapsed Time: 18202.78591923 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.362335059207944 +/- 0.017332578365618637
Agility: 3.150953812076659 +/- 0.0173462388913801
Attack Power: 1.1238723098336596 +/- 0.008664495718066392
Haste Rating: 1.0472508731454946 +/- 0.01726462066211674
Crit Rating: 1.0912467327916966 +/- 0.01727439887585619
Mastery Rating: 1.246116411925832 +/- 0.01728449283209445
Hit Rating: 1.070328117121062 +/- 0.017250501159535542
Expertise Rating: 1.0703171380616185 +/- 0.017250519444867177
Weapon DPS: 4.764132147578311 +/- 0.01744105751002187


My unbuffed stats are

Weapon DPS 703.5
Strength 391
Agility 5319
Attack Power 1509
Haste 1353
Hit 262
Crit 1358
Expertise 0
Mastery 2116



I find it odd that haste is the worse stat in that simulation where it
was shown to be just below mastery in lower iteration tests I did. My
gear is full 372 bis.

tangedyn

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Apr 30, 2011, 5:12:42 PM4/30/11
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On Apr 28, 11:14 pm, Arctagon <gra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=0,

Should try to enable duration jitter, generally about 10% is good.
This may reduce the effect of certain breakpoints caused by encounter
length.

> Lastly, for some odd reason the reports say that agility is 390 more
> than it actually is, and that attack power is 492 lower than it
> actually is.

This is expected. Character sheet shows values that is slightly
different from what Mew uses internally because of buffs and bonuses.

tangedyn

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Apr 30, 2011, 5:16:32 PM4/30/11
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On Apr 30, 11:14 am, Odas <odaseo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I find it odd that haste is the worse stat in that simulation where it
> was shown to be just below mastery in lower iteration tests I did.  My
> gear is full 372 bis.

Yep, as explained in my blog, you can really trust low iteration
results anymore because of the large confidence interval.

It does look like as gear approaches 372 BIS, the RSVs no longer
follow the previous observations that mastery > crit ~= haste > hit =
expertise, and that hit and expertise becomes all but equal to haste
and crit, maybe even better. I'll wait for a few more results to come
in to confirm that though.

Arctagon

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Jun 16, 2011, 2:41:22 PM6/16/11
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I have run about 10 one million iteration simulations for this
specific setup lately and once again I stumbled upon something
interesting. The version of Mew which is used is 20110425.

This is the fourth simulation. Take note of the amount haste and crit
rating, then the DPS, then the relative value of crit and haste. Also,
this is the simulation of all that yielded the highest amount of DPS.

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=171,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0.0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=false, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=3, Target.CastLength=0.0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=false, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=false, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=false, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=false, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Tauren,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=833, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2053, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=188, Procs.items=58181,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=false, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=false, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=10,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5040, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=true,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=291,
WeaponTop=62331, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=62329,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Buff.SpellHaste=false, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=false, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=382, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1400}

DPS: 23044.67497 +/- 1.1263
Min/Max DPS: 20517.51701 / 26135.31206
StdDev: 574.64295
DPS (> 25%): 22113.24015
DPS (< 25%): 25838.97944
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 9.7543
Crit % for White: 40.15766
Crit % for Yellow: 40.09421
Crit Cap % for White: 66.2457
Attack Speed: 0.82232
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.84165
OoC Proc Return: 33.88606
Energy Regen (e/s): 17.62443
Number Mangles: 14.95224
Mangle Uptime (%): 99.96404
Number Shreds: 85.94839
Number Rakes: 24.70396
Rake Uptime (%): 98.48017
Number Rips: 11.32196
Rip Uptime (%): 94.85058
Number Savage Roars: 9.50108
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 94.80155
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.86256
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 17.57464
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.12594
Crit % for Bite: 60.52194
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.107
Number Tiger's Furys: 11.21893
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 22.22292
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 10.00516
Segment Time (s): 300.16178
Averaged Armor Value: 10550.89094
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.81031
White Damage (%) : 18.98033
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.64321
Ravage Damage (%): 0.58408
Mangle Damage (%): 2.80264
Shred Damage (%): 24.96805
Rake Damage (%): 19.92475
Rip Damage (%): 26.10885
Bite Damage (%): 2.98809
Avg. White Attack: 3595.38464
Avg. Ravage Attack: 38304.41321
Mangle DPE: 401.77553
Shred DPE: 545.09886
Rake DPE: 1729.00616
Rip DPE: 4226.33692
Bite DPE: 698.4234
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.15253
Fluid Death Uptime (%): 99.97161
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.33764


Elapsed Time: 16597.755754991 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.278569079852023 +/- 0.016001821758413762
Agility: 3.008125108969034 +/- 0.016018407288077484
Attack Power: 1.0846658617996037 +/- 0.007999174680296895
Haste Rating: 0.9163121929650151 +/- 0.015926168858699477
Crit Rating: 1.0005717620538053 +/- 0.01595004433158217
Mastery Rating: 1.1513782329394235 +/- 0.015953972298530322
Hit Rating: 0.975915341895925 +/- 0.015926237757218582
Expertise Rating: 0.9677993461480946 +/- 0.015926820249310907
Weapon DPS: 4.50866507707553 +/- 0.01610314837389192


Now, let's take a look at the fifth simulation. Again, take note of
the amount of haste and crit rating, then the DPS, then the relative
value of crit and haste.

{WeaponSpeed=100000, Tier_10_4pc=false, Strength=171,
BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true,
Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Tier_10_2pc=false,
Buff.Crit=true, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1,
Target.CastInterval=0.0, Toskk.UseMaxSR=false, Talent.Heart of the
Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal
Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0,
Toskk.AssumeExternalFF=false, Buff.DarkIntent=false,
Buff.MajorHaste=true, Toskk.AssumeExternalBleed=false,
Simulator.PrePotion=false, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0,
Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=3, Target.CastLength=0.0,
Debuff.SpellVuln=false, Pivot.StatScale=0,
Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=false, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of
Berserk=false, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true,
Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Relentless, Buff.APMult=true,
Debuff.SpellCrit=false, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Tauren,
Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Toskk.AssumeExternalMangle=false,
Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=815, Talent.Blood
in the Water=2, MasteryRating=2053, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1,
ExpertiseRating=188, Procs.items=58181,59520, Debuff.PhysVuln=true,
Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=false, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2,
Toskk.OoCShredOnly=true, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85,
Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=false, Debuff.BleedDmg=true,
Simulator.Iterations=1000000, Toskk.ModelOpener=false, Glyph of
Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=10,
Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5040, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=true,
Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=291,
WeaponTop=62331, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false,
Toskk.UseMangle=false, Simulator.Duration=300, WeaponBottom=62329,
Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Buff.SpellHaste=false, Tier_11_4pc=true,
Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=false, Talent.Primal
Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false,
Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral
Charge=true, HitRating=382, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false,
Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true,
Glyph of Ferocious Bite=false, Talent.Brutal Impact=2,
CritRating=1418}

DPS: 23042.14278 +/- 1.12571
Min/Max DPS: 20044.0702 / 25851.07538
StdDev: 574.34174
DPS (> 25%): 22109.76587
DPS (< 25%): 25839.27348
Chance Miss/Dodge (%): 9.7543
Crit % for White: 40.25799
Crit % for Yellow: 40.19329
Crit Cap % for White: 66.2457
Attack Speed: 0.82338
OoC Proc Rate (PPM): 3.83641
OoC Proc Return: 33.87801
Energy Regen (e/s): 17.60219
Number Mangles: 14.95066
Mangle Uptime (%): 99.96404
Number Shreds: 85.78463
Number Rakes: 24.69939
Rake Uptime (%): 98.47419
Number Rips: 11.31806
Rip Uptime (%): 94.82958
Number Savage Roars: 9.49774
Savage Roar Uptime (%): 94.78873
Savage Roar CP(s): 2.86308
Avg. Extra Bite Energy: 17.59869
Number Bites (< 25%) : 6.12277
Crit % for Bite: 60.58682
Number Feral Charges: 1
Number Ravages: 1.107
Number Tiger's Furys: 11.21977
Tiger's Fury Uptime (%): 22.22448
Number Berserks: 2
Berserk Uptime (%): 10.00516
Segment Time (s): 300.16178
Averaged Armor Value: 10550.8854
Armor Mitigation (%): 28.8103
White Damage (%) : 18.97424
Fury Swipes Damage (%): 3.6428
Ravage Damage (%): 0.58449
Mangle Damage (%): 2.80556
Shred Damage (%): 24.93921
Rake Damage (%): 19.93956
Rip Damage (%): 26.12561
Bite Damage (%): 2.98852
Avg. White Attack: 3598.43027
Avg. Ravage Attack: 38327.16872
Mangle DPE: 402.22596
Shred DPE: 545.48486
Rake DPE: 1730.28995
Rip DPE: 4229.58993
Bite DPE: 698.65458
Unheeded Warning Uptime (%): 19.13977
Fluid Death Uptime (%): 99.97158
Potion of the Tol'vir Uptime (%): 8.33764


Elapsed Time: 15583.577273089 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 2.278502554095139 +/- 0.015993464773805217
Agility: 3.007969735001825 +/- 0.01600865210460459
Attack Power: 1.0846329374966082 +/- 0.007994995853371713
Haste Rating: 0.972108027480499 +/- 0.01592267851602302
Crit Rating: 1.0004300056360806 +/- 0.015938656086487535
Mastery Rating: 1.1520401962295 +/- 0.015945692093184905
Hit Rating: 0.9759020494250217 +/- 0.01592345053917836
Expertise Rating: 0.9674008479418625 +/- 0.015922624818373303
Weapon DPS: 4.505553245006304 +/- 0.016094545948252482


This setup has more crit and less haste, which naturally brings crit
and haste closer to each other. Yet, the DPS decreased and the
difference is outside the margin of error.

In the last simulation I ran I put haste and crit rating to 814 and
1419 respectively (-1 haste rating and +1 crit rating from the
simulation above) in order to see whether I could strike the perfect
balance, even though it wasn't possible to hit those ratings through
reforging, but it made haste sky-rocket quite a bit above crit.

DPS: 23042.71282 +/- 1.12547
Haste Rating: 1.070610793652777 +/- 0.015923605180602297
Crit Rating: 0.9977768113463026 +/- 0.015931120172920726
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