emotions&reason

[Ilyass Bouada]

Could you advise me on how to search these topics without letting others influence you, what I mean is, I have anxiety ( social&existential), how to listen to all those without letting my emotions control my reasoning to say for example that X philosophy is the right one because, in reality, it is just comforting for me.

to be honest I'm afraid that I'm here because it is comfortable. And I don't want that.

[Cosmin Visan]

What do you find comfortable in idealism ?

[benjayk]

I don't think there is such a thing as "pure reason". If we only rely on reason we end up rationally deriving conclusions from our unexamined irrational assumptions.

On the other hand, it is true that letting your emotions control your reasoning might lead to wrong conclusions.

I would say we are more than our emotions and thoughts. It is worthwhile trying to connect to our spaciousness, beingness, to all the qualitites that are more subtle than surface emotions.

I believe if we gain clarity within our whole being we are less likely to be mislead by emotions or thoughts.

Also comfort, finding peace has it's own value that shouldn't be disregarded even if it means not facing all the (possibly uncomfortable) truth at once.

...and maybe ultimate peace can only be found within truth anyway, because otherwise you'll always feel the disharmony of falsehood and delusion beneath your peace.
In that sense the path towards peace and towards truth would be intimately interconnected.

[Ilyass Bouada]

Consciousness is not an illusion.
And other things, the way asked : do you find yourself comfortable with any philosophy ?
Let's say we discoverd the brain is really generating consciousness or that consciousness is an illusion or that our knowledge of neuroscience were all wrong, what i'm trying to say aren't you unconfortable when you discover something against all what formly believed?
I'm sorry if it's not clear,just few weeks of existential crisis did more damage than a year of depression 😂😂 .

[Ilyass Bouada]

What if you were 100% religious, but discovered that all what you were believing is BS , and you discover that free will doesn't exist ( atleast not the one i thought existed ), then you dive more and more , everytime you discover something new , a piece of you get broken.
What i'm saying is i am 17, yet i dived too soon in philosophy and science that i destroyed my self in the process.
I don't even why i'm posting this , maybe it gives me hope that someone will atleast understand.

[Lou Gold]

Dear Ilyass,

I don't even why i'm posting this, maybe it gives me hope that someone will at least understand.

I don't comprehend (intellectually grasp) what you are saying but perhaps I can understand (stand under) and feel or grok a bit of what you are communicating.

Have you ever heard of "spiritual emergence"? It can be both a shattering experience and a glorious birth. Perhaps you can find something useful here.

I am not a spiritual advisor or a therapist and I'm reluctant to offer advice. The one thing that I do know how to do is to pray. If you want, you can send by private message your full birth name and whatever else you'd like to share.

I wish you the very best.

lou

[Cosmin Visan]

We can't discover that, since "brain" is just an idea in consciousness.

[Ilyass Bouada]

Thanks.
I really appretiate that you're trying to help.
But i think the only thing that could give me answers is death .
But, unfortunately it's hard.

[Ilyass Bouada]

But can't the brain be conscious about itself? if we suppose that brain create consciousnes?
I don't support emergence, but i want to criticize your statement so it will be more clear to me

[Lou Gold]

Ilyass,

I'm not a philosopher or a neuroscientist. I like BK's idealist model only as more plausible than the materialist model.  But can't the brain be conscious about itself? Following the Idealist model, I would have to say, "no" to the idea that the brain creates consciousness. That's all I can offer for the intellectual stuff.

OK, if you don't support emergence there's no benefit in going there. Guess I was just being hopeful. 

About death, are you speaking of "ego death" or "bodily death"?

[Ilyass Bouada]

Both, as we die, we see what there is after death.

I mean if we are just matter, I'm going to cease from existence. So I will not feel anything.

If there is reincarnation I'm gonna see it. And so on.

the problem is : death is hard, not only the act of suicide but also the equipment.

I don't have a place to do it. Plus having a gun would make it easier all of which I don't have.

I think I could not die using rope it will be painful ^__^.

So, unfortunately, I have to find some answers while still alive.

wait a minute, what is ego death?

[Lou Gold]

wait a minute, what is ego death?

For me, it's when I give up and surrender my sense that "I am the doer" (my sense that I can figure it out). It is then that I beg for a teaching. Blessedly, it usually comes quickly and always in a form that I would not have preconceived. In a sense, it's like an Eureka moment -- simple, clear and obvious and also demonstrating that a problem cannot be solved with the same thinking that created it.

[Cosmin Visan]

"Brain" is just an idea in consciousness. It doesn't exist.