Isn't Miho a fairly tragic figure?

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friendl...@yahoo.com

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Aug 7, 2008, 3:04:32 PM8/7/08
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After watching the Key the Metal Idol series, if there were two
particular charachters that particularly grew on me it was Key and
Miho. Key, being the main protagonist, it would probably be a given.
Miho to me was another, partly due to the fact that I did sort of feel
sorry for her and that really her more introverted and gloomy
personality was easier for me to relate to than someone more
boisterous like say, Tataki or Sakura, which is why I find it odd that
she's commonly one of the most disliked charachters in the series (not
that there's much of it considering Key's lack of attention as an
anime, but that's besides the point).



Miho was completely talentless with no ability to sing without the
PPOR's

Tsurugi himself, someone who's opinion should not be taken lightly in
the film industry, thought she was extremely talented . He mentioned
in one episode when he was training Key that the thought of people
trying to replace her was preposterous, given that no one would ever
have the innate talent.

Miho is incredibly stuck-up and vain

We are never really given much evidence of this. She does not seem to
have the feeling that she is better than anyone else, her fans
included. Watch the way she spoke to her fans during her last concert
before she blacked out from overusing the PPOR. She was talking to
them like they were her equals, or guests.

If anything, she comes across to me as having many feelings of
inferiority and at times submissiveness. When she trained under
Tsurugi, she did not by any means view him as incompetent and unworthy
of being listened to. She paid very close attention to him, and made
it clear that she wanted him to train her. He even admitted that he
taught her everything he had to offer when she claimed she was still
not very good.

Miho got herself into the situation she is in with her insecurities,
so she deserves what she got

So she deserves to be locked up like a lab rat and forced to use a
machine by someone who is aware is instable and has been shown to be
capable of killing people and is clearly slowly killing her off
because she was a thirteen year old girl who wanted to be a rock idol?
Now don't you think this is a little harsh?

I could go on, but I think I have touched on some of the larger
misconceptions.

gts² ロボト

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Aug 9, 2008, 10:55:38 AM8/9/08
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Concerning Miho talking to her fans like they were equals:

Didn't C or B or A (i forget which)
tell Miho to deny it?

Had she not been w/ Ajo, do you really think she'd have acted like
that?

Which - btw - i'll have to go back and watch and see how she speaks.


I like Sakura.


BTW - i can't really tell: are you responding to someone's post, or
opionions on a site?
It seems as if you're saying Miho can't sing w/o the PPOR, then go on
to say she thought she was talented.
It's not that she can't sing , either.

It's similar to listening to someone live , and then an album where
each good part is ripped from the recording and tweaked and amplified
and echoed and reverberated etc, and mixed and edited togather in an
editing room.

-geraldine

friendl...@yahoo.com

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Aug 9, 2008, 11:41:23 AM8/9/08
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On Aug 9, 10:55 am, gts² ロボト <gts2b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Concerning Miho talking to her fans like they were equals:
>
> Didn't C or B or A (i forget which)
> tell Miho to deny it?
>

I don't think I remember that scene that well. It has been a few years
since
I've seen this series all the way through.

> Had she not been w/ Ajo, do you really think she'd have acted like
> that?
>

This is something I have wondered about. We don't see much of her
behavior before she comes in contact with Ajo and is paying the price
for her actions. The only two glimpses we get of it are the flashbacks
at the beginning of episode 3 (which probably didn't give much, other
than that
she probably didn't think she was that great as the scene where
she was scolded in the recording room probably showed) and her
conversation with Tsurugi in episode 14. The latter did give me the
impression that she did, at least before have the humbleness to at
least respect him, given how she seemed to think of him as some
sort of acting god to look up to, but then again I suppose one could
argue that she only that way towards people she had great respect for,
and Tsurugi was quite the respected personality in film..

> Which - btw - i'll have to go back and watch and see how she speaks.
>
> I like Sakura.
>

As a note that has nothing to do with the this discussion, the more
I think of it Miho could possibly represent what Sakura or maybe
Key could have become should they have gone with Tamari in the first
episodes. Both had some pretty significant problems with their life
(Sakura -
Finances, and had a personal dream, Key - felt being famous would help
her make friends) that probably could have been solved if they did go
along with him. I think Miho was sort of supposed to represent the
price
they could have paid by possibly solving their problems that way.

Yeah, I tend to lean towards liking or being indifferent to Sakura.
She
comes across as one of the few female charachters with much of a
backbone, and alot of her worst problems are things that really she
never had control over, as opposed to some charachters who sort
of got themselves in the trouble they did (Miho, A, B and C) or do
ultimately
have them dealt with in a positive way (Key). I think her more
realistic
and more down to earth personality is probably why she seems to
be one of the more popular charachters in the series. I just tend to
like Key or Miho because they're more... er... different like me.

> BTW - i can't really tell: are you responding to someone's post, or
> opionions on a site?

Some site, I don't remember what one. Apparently it's offline now. I
remember'
having a little of a discussion with a friend of mine after Key and he
discussed
some on why he felt Miho did not come across as a good person.

It's a rare anime so it will naturally be uncommon to see it
discussed. I'm sure one
site and one person that I've met with hardly represent the entire
fanbase of Key,
but I was using those opinions I've heard because they are the only in
the few
discussions on the anime that were relevant to my opinion.

> It seems as if you're saying Miho can't sing w/o the PPOR, then go on
> to say she thought she was talented.
> It's not that she can't sing , either.
>

This is a typo and I was about to write that the one sentence
statements above the
longer paragraphs were common misconceptions of the charachters, and
stated my best educated opinion on the fact. (by the way, not to seem
silly but
is there a way you can edit posts once you put them on?)


gts² ロボト

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Aug 10, 2008, 11:06:20 PM8/10/08
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Hmmm....Try clicking on "more options" on your post, and see if
there's an edit option.

If not, you can always post a new email, and then email me, to delete
the previous one, just remind me it's cause you had to edit it :)


Also sometihng that just came to mind to me:

The Japanese tend to downplay their own abilities, which is probably
why i was so surprised and confused reading what you said about Miho
not thinking she was very good.

If you're commenting about someting from a site, mark it, so people
know it's from a site, or someone else's discussion.
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-geraldine
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