[M.O.M.] We can reinvent M.O.M. (Merriam Organic Market)

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Dave - WebMinion

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May 23, 2010, 9:55:47 AM5/23/10
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Since 2008, we've had steady input and growing interest expressed
regarding a rebirth of Merriam Organic Market. Now is the time to
start getting organized for next year...

I cannot commit to full-time management or oversight of every aspect
of M.O.M., but I will be happy to provide as much time and energy as I
can. Suggestions and plans for opening in 2011 must be backed by your
participation and commitment to this long-term, cooperative project.

We are seeking motivated individuals and groups, in or close to
Merriam (KS), to MEET MONTHLY (sometimes more often) over the next 6
to 10 months, in order to CREAT, EXPLORE, DEVELOP & SET INTO MOTION
plans for re-inventing the Merriam Organic Market (M.O.M.).

Please REPLY (without changing the SUBJECT line) with your ideas and
preferred meeting dates / times / locations.

Thanks for your interest!

Dave Lawrence
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Robert Jones

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If I can help I will.......

Robert

Mike Martin

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I am interested.

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Jo & Gary Norris

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May 24, 2010, 1:23:01 AM5/24/10
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Please keep me posted on what to do.

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Nothing personal folks but from my perspective there is nay  a chance for success around here. My experience with the old mom market was not a positive one.  After picking for a day and paying a high entry fee-$50 dollars- to market my produce, nobody showed up.  Kansas is not ready for farmer's markets much less organic farmer's markets.  There is too much competition or lack of buyers for the present number of farmers (try selling corn and tomatoes in July if you don't believe me).  What does the government do?   Make new programs to "grow growers" and certification programs- a  bass ackwards strategy for the problem.  There are not enough customers (that walk the walk not talk...), not enough resources (money). Conversely there are too many walmarts,too many walmart shoppers, and stifling bureaucracy at all levels of government.  Let's face it, the government's only real job is to promote agribusiness and make sure there is no competition.  Good luck, Ted Kasckow   
 
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If I can help I will.......

Robert


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Modell

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May 24, 2010, 7:28:40 AM5/24/10
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Good morning...I am not a seller but I am interested..did and will make
purchases...best of success. Madalein Odell

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WebMinionKCFC

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May 24, 2010, 11:08:05 AM5/24/10
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Mr. Kascow,

1. I'm not sure where you paid $50 for the *DAY*... at most, ours was
$25 for a paid-on-day-of-market stall fee at the height of the
season. If you paid more on a particular day, it would have been to
pre-pay (or repay for) another date *or* to cover some part of the
full $250-for-the-season fee (we thought it a reasonable, affordable
rate structure). It *is* truly unfortunate that you've held your
water on the subject until now, and only you can tell us how to make
amends (try posting your current growing/selling plans, and we'll do
what we can to promote them).

2. I can certainly sympathize with the troubles you've had marketing
ORGANICALLY-GROWN PRODUCE in JoCo...
NOTE: The outdoor farmers' market model is a perennial struggle and
requires an over-investment in time and energy (for my dollar,
anyway), so we are not going that route again.

NOW...

The fact is, we have a significant number of growers and hundreds of
eaters who want to make this happen, here and now. We welcome your
participation, in whatever capacity you choose to do so.

Sincerely,

Dave Lawrence



On May 24, 9:46 am, TKasc...@aol.com wrote:
> Nothing personal folks but from my perspective there is nay  a chance  for
> success around here. My experience with the old mom market was not a  
> positive one.  After picking for a day and paying a high entry fee-$50  dollars-
> to market my produce, nobody showed up.  Kansas is not ready for  farmer's
> markets much less organic farmer's markets.  There is too  much competition or
> lack of buyers for the present number of farmers (try  selling corn and
> tomatoes in July if you don't believe me).  What does the  government do?  
> Make new programs to "grow growers" and certification  programs- a  bass
> ackwards strategy for the problem.  There  are not enough customers (that walk the
> walk not talk...), not enough resources  (money). Conversely there are too
> many walmarts,too many walmart shoppers,  and stifling bureaucracy at all
> levels of government.  Let's face  it, the government's only real job is to
> promote agribusiness and make sure  there is no competition.  Good luck, Ted
> Kasckow  
>
> In a message dated 5/23/2010 10:41:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>
> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/merriam-organic-market?hl=en.

Natalya Lowther

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May 24, 2010, 11:22:40 AM5/24/10
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One has only to look at the Lawrence Farmer's Market as a successful example of an outdoor market where many organic growers do quite well, and there is no shortage of customers. I doubt we'll ever be totally organic because meat and fruit are VERY hard to do organically in this climate. These are big draws. So perhaps allowing non-organic growers, IF prominently marked as such, would allow more variety and draw more people. 

Blessings,
Natalya Lowther

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WebMinionKCFC

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May 24, 2010, 1:34:06 PM5/24/10
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Merriam already has an outdoor "mixed" Farmers' Market on Saturdays,
and it does OK.

We're trying to extend the vision and mission of the KC Food Circle
into JoCo/WyCo in a grass-roots, community-activated manner (M.O.M.),
in Merriam (KS), with the blessing (and effort, we can hope) of dozens
upon dozens of eaters interested in Local+Organic/Free-Range foods.

My own hope is that we can create something along the lines of a combo-
market, like Topeka Natural Food Co-op *MEETS* the BADSEED Farmers
Market - a multi-purpose, indoor facility with year-round sales of
fresh, in-season local foods, local processed foods and meats, local
crafts... with room, staff and time for other community kitchen
classes/activities, etc...

Dave


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> One has only to look at the Lawrence Farmer's Market as a successful example of an outdoor market where many organic growers do quite well, and there is no shortage of customers. I doubt we'll ever be totally organic because meat and fruit are VERY hard to do organically in this climate. These are big draws. So perhaps allowing non-organic growers, IF prominently marked as such, would allow more variety and draw more people.
>
> Blessings,Natalya Lowther
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Robert Jones

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Therese Livella

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As for meeting dates and times, my schedule changes frequently so don't plan around me.  Generally, though when I am not traveling day time hours M-F (lunch?) are  best, followed by M-Th evenings around 7ish.  Anything planned between the hours of 4:30-6:30  I will not be able to attend.  Weekends are generally too full for any new commitments during spring summer and fall.
 
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Therese Livella

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As a consumer who purchases organics, I was so disappointed by the void left by Wild Oats when it closed in Mission.  I would support and help promote a local market in Merriam.  I don't frequent the farmers market as often as I should because of the hours.  A Brick and Mortar location would be better for my schedule, which is always changing.  Would a coop be a viable solution?  I am so impressed with the growth of the Community Mercantile in Lawrence.  There is no reason Merriam can not have one of it's own!  Willing to help. 
 
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Thanks, all of you, for showing your support.

The co-op function, I think, would best be served by offering our
facility and wo/man-power to the organizers of www.SquashBlossomKC.org
(the parent org of the new Squash Blossom KC Food Buying Co-op). No
reason to compete with them, as they have already done so much, they
share our values, and we work in the very same arena(s) - we have
every reason to coordinate and extend outreach to KC's western burbs
and beyond. Steve Mann was a vendor at M.O.M. once, and he's on the
board of the SBKC Co-op - when time permits, I'll make some time to
hobnob with him on this subject (easy enough, as we both work at the
BADSEED every Friday night).

Please encourage your local friends to get involved. One of you will,
eventually, step up to be the actual organizer of this project - I
intend to advise and assist from the sidelines as much as is humanly
possible. Let me know what works. I'm available most nights 9 until
11pm at 913-620-8427 (AT&T Cell Phone).

Dave


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> As a consumer who purchases organics, I was so disappointed by the void left by Wild Oats when it closed in Mission.  I would support and help promote a local market in Merriam.  I don't frequent the farmers market as often as I should because of the hours.  A Brick and Mortar location would be better for my schedule, which is always changing.  Would a coop be a viable solution?  I am so impressed with the growth of the Community Mercantile in Lawrence.  There is no reason Merriam can not have one of it's own!  Willing to help.  
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Anne McCleery

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I would be happy to help.  I live in the Shawnee/Merriam area.  I'm not a grower, just a frequenter of the Merriam and Shawnee farmers' markets, and very interested in local organic food.  I work 8:30-5:00 M-F, so evenings and weekends are possible meeting times for me.
 
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