Cheats On 8 Ball Pool

[Akinlolu Bellotti]

This is not a question. Miniclip 8 ball pool has been Allowing cheats for the last 2+ years, and miniclip is Responsible for this problem. How do I know this? Miniclip is selling cheater hacks for around $40 per month, Illegally, and the game has been compromised totally.

This company (Apple), NEEDS to have 8 ball pool shut down 100% due to the actions of Theft from miniclip themselves. This major problem is making miniclip, often called moneyclip, from all of us honest players that have invested both time and money into this bad game for years.

I am a high level player, and have played this game since around 2010. I am done playing this game at high levels and playing low level where the hackers do not play on because there is no coin value there. The coins are so valuable that it is equivalent to cocaine $ on the streets.

I was playing "killers", the billiards variant in Ireland a while ago. I was left with one life left and I did not feel I had a shot to sink any balls, so I decided I'd use my shot to make the next person's shot much more difficult by intentionally cueing the ball a few inches forward without striking any colored balls. I figured I lose a life whether I foul or whether I fail to sink, and I only have one life left, so why not?

I would say that in any game that is serious enough to have players complain about cheating, this rule (ie. losing two points on a foul) would probably apply to prevent perverse incentives arising. Having said that, you were on your last life, so it wouldn't have made much difference here anyway.

If your opponent failed to consider that the player taking the shot before him had nothing to lose, that's his problem for not preparing accordingly. There's nothing to say that had you made an honest attempt, that the resulting leave would have been any better for him.

Deliberately fouling in pool games is generally not seen to be "cheating", as the penalties for fouling are generally strong enough to prevent the affected party from feeling aggrieved. This discussion seems to share that consensus - in 8-ball, for example, the ball-in-hand penalty is seen as a strong enough disincentive to deliberate fouling.

Billiards has this dark kind of association with gambling, cheating, deceit, and hustling. The big chain pool halls are working hard to change this, by making their establishments smoke free, and family friendly. Unfortunately, though, deceitful play goes on all over the place.

What happens when a Match Player competes with a Gambler? Nothing. A Match Player will not compete with a Gambler. There is a distinct difference between the two players. The Match Player is seeking the ultimate game, while the Gambler seeks to destroy. The sweetest words a gambler will hear is "I am broke" while the words that sing the melody of this great game to the Match Player are, "nice game".

There is a band of Match Players all across this land. They play for high stakes. Some as much as one hundred thousand dollars on one match. But it is not the money. It is the love of the game. The ultimate game. When two Match Players get together you are in for a rare and beautiful treat. You will be taken back in time when being a gentleman was the highest calling.

I was playing a match in Michigan. It was a great contest. The kind that went back and forth. His name was Clark Gravedoni. I tried a break shot and failed. He needed only a few more balls so I sat down with the loss in my mind. I sat there for the longest time. I didn't want to watch. I was going to listen for the sound of balls falling into the leather pockets. But I heard no sound. Nothing happened. I looked up and Clark was starring at me. "What happened?" I asked.

I got up and ran out. At the time I was not surprised at all that he would call a foul on himself. He was a Match Player. I ran out and took him to the finest restaurant. The match is the expression of his art. Therefore he plays only one match. There can be only one match between two Match Players. May all the rolls go your way.

Nice thread. We have a pretty large BCA league here in Pueblo Colorado and while the largest percentage of players will say that's a bad hit, or that's a foul, there are still quite a few who will cheat in a heart beat. I have even seen some pretty good arguments when a player calls a blatant foul and the player who committed the foul denies it and acts like a jerk.

I have one quick question, here's the scenario. You break, nothing goes in, the opposing player goes to hit a solid but doesn't make the shot, my turn comes I logically aim for stripes but my ball doesn't go in, here's the kicker. Is the opposing player allowed to hit a stripped ball after their first attempt was a solid?

Yes. The table is still open. Side Bar; today I called 2 fouls on myself while my opponent had his back turned to the table and 1 while he had gone to the rest room. See above; What happens when a Match Player competes with a Gambler?

On the flip side if you argue with someone who has called a foul on you and you know you fouled you are a jerk and should be warned first by the captain, tournament director or whoever is in charge at the time and on second offence be told to find someone else to play for. Warn and then oust. I am a team captain and that's how I would handle it.

There are some out there that cannot shoot when such a situation happens in a critical match to those I say; call the foul on yourself especially if it is early in the game he might not run out and then your head is where it should be when it is your inning.

Playing for fun and in competition are 2 different worlds for most of us. I see very few whose fun games are just like their competition games. Be honorable sure if you foul in a big match stand up, look at your opponent, give him/her a long pause and a good stare enough time to say "foul". If they are not doing their job keep shooting if you are comfortable with it; it is not now and never will be cheating.

Well said, the rules are clear on the foul call being made by a referee or in a non-officiated game by the opponent. It is a ruthless way to play but where should your opponents eyes be? On the game or the hottie at the bar?

I was watching one of the ladies matches between Lee and Vivian (forget last name). They both shot the 9 ball around a couple of times and missed. Lee was so excited she shot the 9 into the pocket. Vivian, not the ref, called her on it for not calling the pocket. Lee was gracious about it even though it was an obvious shot. Vivian proceeded to take the next shot and missed. I did not believe it. Lee then called and sunk the 9 ball. It was a lesson in losing focus. They were simple shots.

It was Vivian Villarreal. Not sure about spelling. They also call her the Texas Tornado. I watched a replay of that match on ESPN a while back. I hung out in the pool room one night in Michigan when my son played in the BCA Junior Nationals. She is a cool lady.

After playing on and off mostly in bars for the last 30yrs I have started playing in local tournaments. I now will call my own fouls because i have started playing the game against myself, not against my opponent. I try to play as though I am playing against a computer that is going to beat me if I make any mistake. This had made me more conscious of fouls and I hardly ever make a foul since I know I am going to call it on myself.

This is one topic that has been on my mind lately. I've played pool off and on for the past 20 years only occasionally participating in open tournements at local halls. When I first began to play, I would often play with the owner of the pool hall. Aside from often getting free tabletime, I also got free lessons and a fantastic playing partner. Often we would only play straight pool, as 8 and 9 ball was too boring for him. The two things that he always tried to teach me while playing was play defensivly, and the importance of sportsmanship.

As the thread by The Monk stated, this game can be broken down into match players, and gamblers. I usually try to avoid playing the gamblers, but I do respect that it is a traditional aspect of the game. In my mind the specific rules are there to give gamblers specific boundries. Even if some are in their favor. As a match player, I rely on sportsmanship and the rules to define my game. Last week I played more of a 'gambler' type. He would talk down his skill, not call or deny fouls, then play like an ace when I would sneak ahead. I managed to win that match and it made the game all the sweeter to know that I won while also being a sportsman. Last night I had a match against another match player. While I did lose that match, it was a great game and alot of fun.

I guess it boils down to each persons ethics and what you feel is cheating. If your opponent plays by the exact rules and will not call their own fouls, its technically not cheating. It is just up to you if your going to play by those rules also or your own rules. I respect the gambler type for the way they play, I just couldnt do it myself.

It's been almost 2 years since I started this thread. My thoughts have changed slightly. I started to play in a league this summer, first time sense 1982. While I call fouls on myself playing straight pool league play is different. It's up to my opponent to pay attention to the table IMO now. The very first night my partner while playing a safe made a bad hit. I almost spoke up but notices both of the other players, 2 man teams, were busy watching a baseball game. Had they said something my partner would have said, " yes, bad hit, ball in hand." They should have been watching. I myself have not to my knowledge had anything happen during a match that was questionable. That being said if I do I'll simply stand up, count to ten and if no one speaks up I'll continue shooting as if nothing happened. I will still feel the guilt though but I think it's part of the game. Now the question is, is that cheating?

I would have to say that it's not cheating. I learned that sometimes your team mates will get pretty upset with you if you start calling fouls on yourself. In our local leagues, we have a player and a spotter on each team. It's up to your opponent and their spotter to call fouls on you. If they miss a foul, the you snooze you loose rule kicks in.

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