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Mike

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Sep 26, 2001, 12:28:00 PM9/26/01
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I took the Online test at the MENSA website called MENSA workout, and I
scored 11/15. The website said it was 'likely ' that I would test high
enough to join, anyone know if that is a good enough score? It's only about
73 %, but if all that's required is a passing score, I suppose that it is
high enough. I was told my IQ was 126, when I was in 6th grade, after being
tested by the school psychologist. Anyone know if that's high enough? (I
ain't gonna join, I just like to know I could if I wanted to) Mike.

CINDY SMITH

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Sep 26, 2001, 1:45:58 PM9/26/01
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In article <yy8s7.21786$ei.32...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
"Mike" <mik...@home.com> writes:

Your IQ of 126 depends heavily on the name of the test you took.
Different tests give widely different results. You may wish to ask
Donna Bone at Mensa whether the test you took in the 6th grade
qualifies you for membership. Click on the Join Mensa button at the
US Mensa website www.us.mensa.org and see if any of the listed tests
like the GRE and MAT might qualify you for membership. Mensa accepts
over 200 different tests as qualification for membership.

Good luck.

--

Cindy Smith I have further observed under the sun that
c...@dragon.com The race is not won by the swift,
c...@5sc.net Nor the battle by the valiant;
c...@romancatholic.org Nor is bread won by the wise,
Nor wealth by the intelligent,
Me transmitte sursum, Nor favor by the learned.
Caledoni! -- JPS Ecclesiastes 9:11

Dave

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Sep 26, 2001, 5:08:28 PM9/26/01
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On 26 Sep 2001 12:45:58 -0500, c...@5sc.net (CINDY SMITH) wrote:

>Your IQ of 126 depends heavily on the name of the test you took.

I'd like to know the name of the one you took.

-dave

Adina Sobo

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Sep 26, 2001, 5:30:08 PM9/26/01
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In article <yy8s7.21786$ei.32...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Mike"
<mik...@home.com> writes:

It's possible. However, online tests are not accurate enough to
be used as a guide. Even the "Mensa Practice Test" can only tell
if you're in the top 5%, but is not accurate enough to determine
if you're in the top 2%. The school test may be admissable as
prior evidence, depending on which test it was. However, the typical
score needed would be 130 or above (130 on any proctored
Weschler test IQ (WAIS, WAIS-R, WISC, WISC-R; 131 on the
Otis Gamma) Your options would include obtaining the school
transcript and paying for American Mensa, Ltd. (or your local
national Mensa group, if you are not in the USA) to evaluate it,
or else paying to take a proctored test (the ones Mensa proctors
give will tell you only if you are or are not eligible, and not give
you an IQ score number, but they are generally far less expensive
than taking the test elsewhere).

- - -Adina
(cc: to Mike)
"The fox, when he cannot reach the grapes, says they are not ripe."
-- George Herbert, _Jacula Prudentum_ [1640]

http://members.aol.com/adinas/

CINDY SMITH

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Sep 26, 2001, 7:35:59 PM9/26/01
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In article <kySyO9yzmB9jJm...@4ax.com>,
Dave <grum...@onebox.com> writes:

If you mean you'd like to know the name of the test I took to qualify
for the Mensa Society, I took the Miller Analogies Test. Why?

> -dave

TobusRex

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Sep 27, 2001, 12:46:28 AM9/27/01
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IQs can fluctuate from childhood to adulthood, as IQ testing isn't an
"exact" science. I'd say you have decent chances to get in. The minimum
score is 132. Also, the Mensa test is fun to take, but Mensa doesn't give an
IQ rating anymore...they simply extend the offer to join if you "pass"...or
they don't.


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Mike

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Sep 28, 2001, 10:14:09 AM9/28/01
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I honestly don't think I can score a 132 consistently. Maybe on a real good
day, I would get a 130, or possibly a 132. I am not really interested in
being in MENSA- it seems like a pompous concept- and I really wouldn't want
to be there by the skin of my teeth, with no way to work my way up to a
higher IQ- LOL. Mike.
"Mary" <nu...@testweb.us.mensa.org> wrote in message
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> TobusRex wrote:
>
> >IQs can fluctuate from childhood to adulthood, as IQ testing isn't an
> >"exact" science.
>
> More than that -- IQ can very from test to test at the same age. It
> is just one indicators of possible academic potential.

>
>
> >I'd say you have decent chances to get in. The minimum
> >score is 132.
>
> Only on some tests. The minimum score is 98 percentile, and numbers
> varies from test to test based on standard deviation. Catell for
> example is 148.

>
> > Also, the Mensa test is fun to take, but Mensa doesn't give an
> >IQ rating anymore...they simply extend the offer to join if you
"pass"...or
> >they don't.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> Mary

Michael K. Robinson

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Sep 28, 2001, 1:07:17 PM9/28/01
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Hmmmmmmmmm. Seems odd to "insult" those in Mensa, with the "pompous"
statement, when you obviously had some desire to participate in this group
talk. That's like telling a group that you first meet that you think that
they are all pompous (like it, hell it IS it, lol)

Which is it Mike? Do you want to be "smart" or not, lol.

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Vinnie Payne

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Sep 28, 2001, 2:14:50 PM9/28/01
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> I am not really interested in
> being in MENSA- it seems like a pompous concept- and I really wouldn't
want
> to be there by the skin of my teeth, with no way to work my way up to a
> higher IQ- LOL. Mike.

It is pompous to think that one's intelligence can be gully gauged by
answering some math/english questions. There are several areas in which one
could have superior intellect, and be blithering idiots in others. For
example, I couldn't find my way out of a wet paper sack. That is spacial
intelligence. And it is a dern good thing that they don't include that on
the mensa test.

Maybe some people join mensa to feel superior. I try to communicate with
mensa members to glean different viewpoints, and bounce a couple of mine off
of them. And I like it when people use big words (like verbose).

Gistak

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Sep 28, 2001, 2:14:43 PM9/28/01
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"Mike" <mik...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I honestly don't think I can score a 132 consistently. Maybe on a real
good
> day, I would get a 130, or possibly a 132. I am not really interested in
> being in MENSA- it seems like a pompous concept- and I really wouldn't
want
> to be there by the skin of my teeth, with no way to work my way up to a
> higher IQ- LOL. Mike.

Well, thanks for your thoughts. Rather than look up the answers yourself,
you ask other people to do it for you, then kick them in the teeth.

You don't know anything about this organization (including, apparently, how
to get in), and rather than ask about it, you explain to us how pompous it
is.

I was going to explain a little about why someone might join Mensa, but then
I decided that I don't care if you understand or not.

P


Green Joyce

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Sep 29, 2001, 7:43:18 AM9/29/01
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"Dave" <grum...@onebox.com> wrote in message
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After reading this thread, I visited the Mensa website and looked at
qualifying criteria. I had no idea you could qualify on the basis of an SAT
or PSAT score. It looks like I qualify. So, would some Mensa members give
me a honest opinion about whether it's worth it? What do you get out of
being in Mensa that's valuable to you?

CRxx

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Sep 29, 2001, 9:37:35 AM9/29/01
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Green Joyce heeft geschreven in bericht
<9p3cj0$hde$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>...

>
>After reading this thread, I visited the Mensa website and looked at
>qualifying criteria. I had no idea you could qualify on the basis of an SAT
>or PSAT score. It looks like I qualify. So, would some Mensa members give
>me a honest opinion about whether it's worth it? What do you get out of
>being in Mensa that's valuable to you?

Extended family? I have came in contact with a multitude of wonderful people
from many different walks of life. I have come into a place where whatever i
say is being valued by content, not by what credentials i have. So i can
have a serious discussion about virtual consiousness with a
computerscientist, and have the scope of my communications broadened into a
vastness that would have seem incredible would i have never encountered
Mensa.

Christine!
>
>
>

dennis curtis

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Sep 29, 2001, 9:37:43 AM9/29/01
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Hear, hear. I, for my part,have a desire to be a member of some high
IQ group. However, I have never been much of a joiner. Sigh. On a very
good day, with the right coffee, I think I could be a member of Intel.
There are five, I think, high IQ groups in America, wiht Mensa
requiring
the least IQ number to join. I think Mega is the top one: 165 minimum.
The objective for me, is simply to have a good time talking about all
sorts of stuff with all sorts of clever and witty people. I discern many
solutions here, and I personally take advantage of them, whenever
possible.
The conversation here keeps me coming back for more. Whether it is
abuse,
ridicule, gentle humor, educational asides, insights, or real help, htis
NG is, in my opinion, one of the best things on the Internet. BTW, I got
all kinda other things that are worth looking into. After all,the
Internet
was originally a huge data base, to discover everything about
everything.
Being intelligent is a personal thing. If you want it to be pompous,
it will be. It will still be intelligent.--regards--dennis

Adina Sobo

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Sep 29, 2001, 9:37:46 AM9/29/01
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In article <Gp0t7.655$cp1.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Vinnie
Payne" <vinni...@earthlink.net> writes:

>It is pompous to think that one's intelligence can be gully gauged by
>answering some math/english questions. There are several areas in which one
>could have superior intellect, and be blithering idiots in others. For
>example, I couldn't find my way out of a wet paper sack. That is spacial
>intelligence. And it is a dern good thing that they don't include that on
>the mensa test.

Well, it depends on the test. Some are great for people with
good spatial sense -- the ones that have you mentally folding
cubes from flat patterns, for example. Others are great for
pattern-seekers -- the Raven is a classic of that type for
visual patterns; others use math patterns. Some are going
to be better for the people with stronger verbal skills. If you're
at the cusp of Mensa eligibility, choosing the right test might
ensure you score in the top 2% on that exam, even though
you'd be in the 96th or 97th percentile on another test. We're
dealing with an area where the statistical error can be significant
after all.

As to the whys and wherefors of actually joining Mensa... I've
written it out before; it can be seen on the San Diego Mensa
pages if anyone actually cares. I figure Mensa is more fun
than most of the more exclusive IQ-based clubs partly because
of the larger membership -- most of the people I know who are
in one of the clubs that requires a higher IQ score are also in
Mensa.

Mike

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Sep 29, 2001, 11:41:56 AM9/29/01
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How high is the SAT score requirements? Mike.
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CRxx

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Sep 29, 2001, 12:10:10 PM9/29/01
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dennis curtis heeft geschreven in bericht <3BB54FF7...@gte.net>...

> Hear, hear. I, for my part,have a desire to be a member of some high
>IQ group. However, I have never been much of a joiner. Sigh. On a very
>good day, with the right coffee, I think I could be a member of Intel.


Well a good CPU can do nice things, but i do not think you mean those. I
think you do mean brains as in intertel. (99%ile threshold...but so few
members.)

Christine!

PS Would be interested to join intertel if it wasn't for the lack of
interest among thos who qualify.

CINDY SMITH

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Sep 29, 2001, 3:06:45 PM9/29/01
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In article <9p3cj0$hde$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Green Joyce" <ear2g...@sprynet.com> writes:

>> -dave

What's valuable to me in Mensa is conversing with people of
intelligence. I converse with fellow Mensans over the Internet and in
my local group in Atlanta where we usually go to some restaurants,
drink beer, and schmooze. I also enjoy membership in certain SIGs,
two of which I started myself as mailing lists (Bi...@dragon.com and
Liter...@dragon.com). I also enjoy reading the Mensa Bulletin every
month.

Incidentally, SAT scores are only acceptable prior to a certain date;
check the website for the date.

Adina Sobo

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Sep 29, 2001, 5:18:21 PM9/29/01
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In article <9p3cj0$hde$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>, "Green Joyce"
<ear2g...@sprynet.com> writes:

>So, would some Mensa members give
>me a honest opinion about whether it's worth it? What do you get out of
>being in Mensa that's valuable to you?

What I like best about Mensa is the range of people you meet,
and not having to explain as many of my jokes. I'm active in a
number of other groups -- two dog clubs, three or four professional
organizations, etc. Most of them are organizations with agendas
-- and the conversation at the events reflects this. If I make
freinds of those people, and see them socially outside of the group,
the group's purpost is usually a big part of the conversation. Since
Mensa doesn't have a particular agenda (social opportunities being
the main one, although there are subgroups that do public service
or whatever) my Mensa friends conversations don't keep coming back
to any particular topic.

That said, members' answers for ourselves are not IMO worth
nearly as much to you as your answer to yourself. Go to a few
of your local events as a prospective member. See if you like
the people. See what you have in common with them. find out
what activities are being sponsored that you'd like to participate
in, and think about what activites that are missing you would be
interested in hosting.

Here in San Diego, we have a monthly "Newcomer's Party" that
starts with a low-key introduction and chat with some of the
regulars -- usually officers with good social skills -- before the
opening of the party to the general membership. Many other
groups have similar arrangements. IMO, this is a great way to
meet Mensans comfortably, and helps avoid the feeling that you
are all alone among strangers. If your group doesn't have something
like this, go to anything on the calendar that catches your eye --
local events for me include ice skating, ethics discussions, movie
nights, and lots of food-centered things like the Thursday lunches.

I'll add that the people who actually attend events are -- as with
juat about every other group I belong to -- a minority. Most members
pay their dues, read their newsletters, and renew, so they are
presumably happy with that.

Adina Sobo

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Sep 29, 2001, 9:48:37 PM9/29/01
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In article <BBit7.11870$c8.13...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Mike"
<mik...@home.com> writes:

>How high is the SAT score requirements? Mike.

The college SAT test prior to 9/77 needed to be 1300 or greater
when you combined the math & verbal portions. From 9/88 to
1/94, a score of 1250 was sufficient (again, M+V).

The most recent revision, which took effect after January 1994, is
not accepted for membership purposes by the AML. I don't know
if any other National Mensa groups will accept it, either.

- - -Adina

rian

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Sep 30, 2001, 9:47:50 AM9/30/01
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same here

--
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Gistak

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Sep 30, 2001, 6:13:08 PM9/30/01
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"Mike" <mik...@home.com> wrote in message
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> How high is the SAT score requirements? Mike.

This is a joke, right? You go to the site, take a practice test, ask us to
do research for you, insult us, then ask us to keep doing research for you?

Find out for yourself! You don't want to join anyway, and consider it
pompous. Why would I waste my time finding out the answer for you, if it's
just for kicks, and you obviously have a computer and know the URL already?

P


Michael K. Robinson

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Sep 30, 2001, 6:16:52 PM9/30/01
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1250, I think, but that is before a certain year. Check the website.

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dennis curtis

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Oct 1, 2001, 2:31:21 PM10/1/01
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OOOPS! Yes I meant Intertel! Dang. Had the wrong coffee.--<g>-dc

Dave

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Oct 1, 2001, 2:41:39 PM10/1/01
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On 29 Sep 2001 11:10:10 -0500, "CRxx" <xxroma...@multiweb.nl> wrote:

>PS Would be interested to join intertel if it wasn't for the lack of
>interest among thos who qualify.


LOL - same here, Christine.

-dave

CRxx

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Oct 1, 2001, 4:26:02 PM10/1/01
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Does have a ring of a selffullfilling prophecy...

Christine!

Dave heeft geschreven in bericht ...

dennis curtis

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Oct 3, 2001, 1:40:40 AM10/3/01
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"Once, twice, three times a Lady"... dc

Mary wrote:
>
> On 30 Sep 2001 17:16:52 -0500, "Michael K. Robinson"


> <slid...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >1250, I think, but that is before a certain year. Check the website.
>

> I have given the URL twice.......
>
> Mary

dennis curtis

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Oct 4, 2001, 12:50:02 PM10/4/01
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I have perfect pitch. So there. I also can fix a sink. -dc

Mary wrote:


>
> dennis curtis wrote:
>
> > "Once, twice, three times a Lady"... dc
>

> Are you singing on key?
>
> Mary

Henry Yen

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Oct 5, 2001, 12:36:54 AM10/5/01
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dennis curtis <curt...@gte.net> wrote:
> I have perfect pitch. So there. I also can fix a sink. -dc

i have perfect pitch, too. but i can't fix a sink.

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rian

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Oct 5, 2001, 12:02:47 PM10/5/01
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I do not have perfect pitch and I hire somebody to fix my sink.

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Dave

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Oct 6, 2001, 10:26:08 AM10/6/01
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On 5 Oct 2001 11:02:47 -0500, "rian" <ri...@infocom.demon.nl> wrote:

>I do not have perfect pitch and I hire somebody to fix my sink


I slam drano and leave the pitching to Roger Clemens.

-dave

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