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Joseph Weinstein

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Jan 5, 2003, 12:06:17 AM1/5/03
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I have come to greatly value the possibilities for high quality discussions here
with people deserving high respect, and the chance at earning some respect
from those same people, whose respect is therefore a palpable credit.
This shuffle feels like some foster parenting bureaucracy is sending us to a
new home, and I hope we kids can stick together as much as possible...
Our ideas do not achieve their full value until they are grasped by others.
This group is an oasis for that. Let's be sure to keep it up.
Joe

rian

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Jan 5, 2003, 10:58:47 AM1/5/03
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we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
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The population is growing.
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Feek O'Hanrahan

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Jan 5, 2003, 1:21:45 PM1/5/03
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rian wrote:

>> I have come to greatly value the possibilities for high quality
>> discussions here with people deserving high respect, and the chance
>> at earning some respect from those same people, whose respect is
>> therefore a palpable credit. This shuffle feels like some foster
>> parenting bureaucracy is sending us to a new home, and I hope we
>> kids can stick together as much as possible... Our ideas do not
>> achieve their full value until they are grasped by others. This
>> group is an oasis for that. Let's be sure to keep it up. Joe
>

> we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
> found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info

I like this idea.

--
"This is my father's favorite medical text book. Read it long enough
and it will show you the error of your ways" - Charity Trask, "Dark
Shadows"


zookumar

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Jan 5, 2003, 3:55:37 PM1/5/03
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rian wrote:
>we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
>found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info

I'll second that. I've never participated in email lists
before and the prospect of a heavy emailbox is less than appealing to
me. Anyone else for AMFRI? I just need to get to a place where the
racist and idiot fringe that frequents ROM keeps frequenting ROM, if
you know what I mean. We can post periodic reminders on ROM pointing
to AMFRI. Also, since the riff raff already have an association with
an "intelligence" newsgroup in ROM (technically, it is one, wot?), I
seriously doubt they'll use the periodic reminders to visit and/or
infect AMFRI. At least, not enough of them will go that route, and
the ones that do can always be twitfiltered into the 2.5th or lower
dimensions.

We have two for tea on AMFRI. Come on group, let's show the
bureaufolks on Mensa International that honest, intelligent,
controversial, witty, and above all *civil* discussion need not be
held hostage to a private tax. Great idea, Rian.

-zookumar-

Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 5, 2003, 5:08:12 PM1/5/03
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I posted a test message there but it didn't show up ...

ty


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Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 5, 2003, 5:38:09 PM1/5/03
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rian, zook, ...

I looked at some of the messages there and i appears
that people actualy *ARE* using it to exchange info
on fibro-related issues.

I tried posting a couple test messages, but after no seeing them
appear, began to feel a bit intrusive into these peoples' forum.

Just a hunch, but I'm not sure the 'original inhabitants' would
really appreciate being *used* forum-wise.

I still think the idea of finding an "idle" newsgroup is
kinda cool, but alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
is not exactly "idle".

- - -
tracy


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Feek O'Hanrahan

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Jan 5, 2003, 7:59:37 PM1/5/03
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Mary wrote:

> On 5 Jan 2003 09:58:47 -0600, "rian" <ri...@infocom.demon.nl> wrote:
>
>> we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
>> found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
>
> Maybe there is an empty one that is easier to spell? : - )

I know that alt.tv.sliders only has about 2 on topic posts every week or so.

Catharine Honeyman

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Jan 5, 2003, 9:25:04 PM1/5/03
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"Feek O'Hanrahan" <feek...@XattbiX.XcomX> wrote:
> rian wrote:

> > we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
> > found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
>
> I like this idea.

I do, too. Shall we go?

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Aloha,
Catharine

titubant sed non decidunt wiblia

rian

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Jan 5, 2003, 9:46:47 PM1/5/03
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do not forget the - , with a dot you will be on a moderated group on
fibromyalgia.

--
Cole's Axiom: The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant.
The population is growing.
Rian

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Catharine Honeyman

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Jan 5, 2003, 9:48:37 PM1/5/03
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rian wrote:
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> > we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
> > found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info

alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info appears to be up and running, with
plenty of messages on it. There is also an
alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info.moderated that is empty. Can we use
that without actually moderating? I know so little about this. I know
that there is a death and dying newsgroup that is empty. We could scare
people off with that.

Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 5, 2003, 11:47:25 PM1/5/03
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alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info

according to google's listing, the "-info" group is
a moderated group ...

??


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Belf da Dog

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Jan 6, 2003, 1:12:30 AM1/6/03
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"Tracy Yucikas" wrote...

>
> I still think the idea of finding an "idle" newsgroup is
> kinda cool, but alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
> is not exactly "idle".
>
> - - -
> tracy
>
>

"alt.cheese.flavoured.elephants" seems fairly dormant

Jerry Hollombe

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Jan 6, 2003, 1:36:27 AM1/6/03
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Tracy Yucikas wrote:
> alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
>
> according to google's listing, the "-info" group is
> a moderated group ...

Instead of hijacking someone else's group, however under used, why not
just create your own? Better yet, go to rec.org.mensa, killfile all the
jerks and use that.

Jerry Hollombe, Webmaster
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zookumar

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Jan 6, 2003, 1:35:40 AM1/6/03
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Cool. My test message didn't get through either. Moreover,
there was a post archived on Google from Dec. 2002. Ergo, the group
is still being used by a few people. So, the hunt is on for an idle
site then? Or perhaps CFV for a new group that simulates the MTM
ambience but without moderation? Any suggestions?

FWIW, I have subscribed for the new email list. But I'm
having serious reservations about it now. Mind you, I think Mensa
International is well within its rights to do whatever it wants with
its own newsservers, however, I think Mensans and nonMensans *both*
developed MTM and both deserve equal respect in the changeover. To
that, I feel nonMensans are being shortchanged for our contributions.
Moreover, I don't think the new change is going to significantly
increase Mensan *usenet* consumption; so I'm skeptical about the real
motive for change. Perhaps the bureaucrats don't want MTM to get too
popular, thereby demonstrating the viability of the hybrid meeting
place. After all, that would diminish the idea of Mensa as an
enhancer of gifted mind (or thought) assembly. Shudder at the thought
that "gifted thought" could thrive in a hybrid assembly, wot?

Anyways, such hybrid success could have consequences for
membership recruitment and overall fiscal performance of the official
international organization. So, logically, I can understand the move
towards the homogenization of the participants. Make it cumbersome for
the nonpayers (the nonMensans) and force them into a choice between
paid optimized service or free suboptimal service (thereby protecting
membership and treasury); or risk losing members to the nonpaying
class by example of the successful hybrid assembly.

While I'm thinking out loud, let me throw this out: have the
nonMensans been receiving a free ride all along? Good question.
No. IMO, we have spent our valuable resources (our time and energy)
as generously as those Mensans who have helped make MTM a successful
newsgroup. And we deserve equal treatment. But hey, life isn't
always fair. I understand that. So be it.

-zookumar-

rian

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:18:50 AM1/6/03
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May, it is a botched moderated one. It was an example.

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The population is growing.
Rian

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Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:27:13 AM1/6/03
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> "alt.cheese.flavoured.elephants"

couldn't find it

ty

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rian

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:19:03 AM1/6/03
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It was an example. I bet there are, like the alt/ihatexxx groups

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The population is growing.
Rian

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> On 5 Jan 2003 09:58:47 -0600, "rian" <ri...@infocom.demon.nl> wrote:
>

> >we could all move to an empty newsgroup and do it unmoderated.
> >found one: alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery-info
>

> Maybe there is an empty one that is easier to spell? : - )
>

> Mary
>
>

rian

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:18:59 AM1/6/03
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great idea. we all fit the description, just the timeframe is different
for each of us.

--
Cole's Axiom: The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant.
The population is growing.
Rian

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Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:36:28 AM1/6/03
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how do you "create one of your own" ?
(and how much would it cost ?)

(( just mullling it over and thinking that
the 2nd option would be sorta like a
hijacking of rom ... gotta give it some thought))

ty


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David Cramer

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:49:13 AM1/6/03
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Jerry,

Are ther limits on how many names you can put in your kill file?

David


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Tracy Yucikas

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Jan 6, 2003, 3:58:10 AM1/6/03
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hmmm, I found

alt.test.fishing.spin

there were only 19 messages on it ....
the last one being posted in Novemeber 2002


I posted and it appeared

"woo hoo"

maybe it's an ok place .


ty

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rian

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Jan 6, 2003, 9:26:58 AM1/6/03
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No, I have hundreds. I chose: remove from server, and that slows things
down, but helps keeping the loonies away.

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The population is growing.
Rian

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Jerry Hollombe

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Jan 6, 2003, 11:02:53 PM1/6/03
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David Cramer wrote:

> Are ther limits on how many names you can put in your kill file?

How big is your hard drive? How much will searching a large file
degrade performance? Those are the only practical limits I can think of.

Jerry Hollolmbe, Webmaster
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