Problems with FF3
Christian Lerrahn
do any of you have problems with FF3 or xulrunner? Since I upgraded to
FF3 and installed xulrunner 1.9.0.1 (at least Gentoo calls it by that
name), there seem to be plenty of websites that crash my browser with a
segfault. The mot prominent among those websites would probably be
http://www.paypal.com or http://mobile.optuszoo.com.au. I tried to gdb
and apparently the segfault happens in xulrunner's libthebes.so but
Googling for that didn't really get me anywhere. So, I'm wondering if
it has to do with plugins. The plugins are
VLC Multimedia Plug-in
File name: libvlcplugin.so
Version 0.9.0-test3 Grishenko, copyright 1996-2007 The VideoLAN Team
Shockwave Flash
File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d525
Adobe Reader 8.0
File name: nppdf.so
The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF files
from within the browser.
gxine starter plugin
File name: gxineplugin.so
will start external gxine media player for embedded media streams
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
File name: nphelix.so
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version
0.4.0.626 built with gcc 3.2.0 on Jul 26 2007
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_12-b04
File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_12
I first suspected Flash to be the culprit but uninstalling it didn't
fix anything. I've also wondered if it is that gxine, vlc and helix
intersect on some mime types but videos generally don;t seem to crash
the browser, either. :(
Anybody sharing my pain?
Cheers,
Christian
Christian Lerrahn
> There is a 'firefox-3.0.1.tar.bz2' for Linux i686 for download if you
> want it. (no guarantees it will work for you or with your distro)
>
> But the above does indicate that perhaps there were bugs in first
> 3.0.0 issue ?
Sorry, I should have mentioned that. I'm on Gentoo ~x86 which means
that I already have 3.0.1.
Cheers,
Christian
Christian Lerrahn
John Coombes <john...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> > do any of you have problems with FF3 or xulrunner? Since I upgraded
> > to
> >
> > FF3 and installed xulrunner 1.9.0.1 (at least Gentoo calls it by
> > that
> >
> > name), there seem to be plenty of websites that crash my browser
> > with a
> >
> > segfault. The mot prominent among those websites would probably be
> >
> > http://www.paypal.com or
> > http://mobile.optuszoo.com.au .
>
> (NOTE: Above, if you had not put the full stop directly after the
> "com" (I put in the space) it may have become a clickable link ?) I
> could not click it before BECAUSE of the extra Full Stop with out a
> space first (hint, hint)
That is strange. In DNS a trailing dot does not matter. The URL
http://mobile.optuszoo.com.au. would be valid and equivalent to
http://mobile.optuszoo.com.au .
> FF plug-in are the most likely thing to give you problems, especially
> if you use multiple ones. I got no definitive real answer as I do not
> use many of the plug-ins that you have, I think Flash is about the
> only one I have, and I believe I am using v.9.xxxx, I notice yours
> below is v.10.0.0 d525 that could be your problem ? (eg. is it the
> most up to date, c/w buggs version ?)
But then completely uninstalling the plugin should work which I've
tried and it didn't fix the problem.
> (NB. re FF addons, I do use and have http://netusage.ieu5.com
> installed, no problems with that as its turned off most of the time,
> and only use it to check my 'netusage' occasionally - my ISP is on
> the list that can use it)
>
> Apart from that I only say try not using Java as in JRE or any other
> Sun-Java suite. I recently I found that by un-installing my Sun-Jave
> bundle, every thing runs much smoother (NOTE: Remember you do not
> need any Sun-Java installed for your web-browser as FireFox has
> already got built in support for the types of Java that you will find
> on most web-sites (See FF > Edit > Preferences > Content) or where
> ever it is in your version.
>
> Of course you may require the Sun-Java bundle-suite for other
> applications that you may be using, but that is another story. You do
> not need it for Firefox, so try uninstalling that first.
Ok. I'll give that a shot sometime. :)
> Lastly it seems that you have got almost every heavy extra addon (ie.
> bloatware addon) that you can use, going ? No wounder things are
> giving you "pain". An example would be your "Adobe Reader 8.0" ! You
> could use a 'nix lightweight alternative instead ? I happen to be
> using KPDF which is much lighter and does the job, there are other
> PDF alternatives as well (ie. plus ones for Gnome or other
> WindowManagers etc.)
Hm, I've never liked the free alternatives because too often they
couldn't handle documents I came across. However, that was years ago.
Maybe I should try that again, too.
> So there is some feedback for your "pain" - I will not bother to go
> through every one of the heavy (bloatware) addons that you have
> installed but I think that if you spend the time to look, that you
> will find 'nix alternatives for most of them. Thats thats your job, I
> am not going to waste my time pointing out alternatives, as your
> distro may have a different selection of applications to my distro.
>
> So if you want a painless FireFox try doing all or some of the above.
Thanks for that. I might try and go with the free alternatives and see
where it gets me. I did suspect the plugins to be a problem but I stil
find it confusing that gdb will crash in xulrunner.
Cheers,
Christian
Christian Lerrahn
Just for the the sake of completeness. I've had some time to play
around with my plug-ins and found the culprit to be Flash. As soon as I
remove it everything (except for Flash content obviously) works fine. :)
Cheers,
Christian
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:16:37 +0900
John Coombes <john...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> > do any of you have problems with FF3 or xulrunner? Since I upgraded
> > to
> >
> > FF3 and installed xulrunner 1.9.0.1 (at least Gentoo calls it by
> > that
> >
> > name), there seem to be plenty of websites that crash my browser
> > with a
> >
> > segfault. The mot prominent among those websites would probably be
> >
> > http://www.paypal.com or
> > http://mobile.optuszoo.com.au .
>
> (NOTE: Above, if you had not put the full stop directly after the
> "com" (I put in the space) it may have become a clickable link ?) I
> could not click it before BECAUSE of the extra Full Stop with out a
> space first (hint, hint)
>
> FF plug-in are the most likely thing to give you problems, especially
> if you use multiple ones. I got no definitive real answer as I do not
> use many of the plug-ins that you have, I think Flash is about the
> only one I have, and I believe I am using v.9.xxxx, I notice yours
> below is v.10.0.0 d525 that could be your problem ? (eg. is it the
> most up to date, c/w buggs version ?)
>
> (NB. re FF addons, I do use and have http://netusage.ieu5.com
> installed, no problems with that as its turned off most of the time,
> and only use it to check my 'netusage' occasionally - my ISP is on
> the list that can use it)
>
> Apart from that I only say try not using Java as in JRE or any other
> Sun-Java suite. I recently I found that by un-installing my Sun-Jave
> bundle, every thing runs much smoother (NOTE: Remember you do not
> need any Sun-Java installed for your web-browser as FireFox has
> already got built in support for the types of Java that you will find
> on most web-sites (See FF > Edit > Preferences > Content) or where
> ever it is in your version.
>
> Of course you may require the Sun-Java bundle-suite for other
> applications that you may be using, but that is another story. You do
> not need it for Firefox, so try uninstalling that first.
>
> Lastly it seems that you have got almost every heavy extra addon (ie.
> bloatware addon) that you can use, going ? No wounder things are
> giving you "pain". An example would be your "Adobe Reader 8.0" ! You
> could use a 'nix lightweight alternative instead ? I happen to be
> using KPDF which is much lighter and does the job, there are other
> PDF alternatives as well (ie. plus ones for Gnome or other
> WindowManagers etc.)
>
> So there is some feedback for your "pain" - I will not bother to go
> through every one of the heavy (bloatware) addons that you have
> installed but I think that if you spend the time to look, that you
> will find 'nix alternatives for most of them. Thats thats your job, I
> am not going to waste my time pointing out alternatives, as your
> distro may have a different selection of applications to my distro.
>
> So if you want a painless FireFox try doing all or some of the above.
>
>
>
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Christian Lerrahn
Andrew Greig <alg...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 13:21 +0200, Christian Lerrahn wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > Just for the the sake of completeness. I've had some time to play
> > around with my plug-ins and found the culprit to be Flash. As soon
> > as I remove it everything (except for Flash content obviously)
> > works fine. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Christian
> Sorry for coming in so late on this thread, but I too, have had
> problems with FF2 and 3 crashing when viewing flash videos.
>
> I use Opera 9.5 much more often these days, and everything works fine.
Actually, I never had bigger problems on FF2. With Opera my problem is
that Opera often freezes completely until it has loaded the whole page.
That can take ages because it doesn't seem to be very efficient in
pulling lots of images. Therefore I rarely switch to Opera.
Cheers,
Christian