Next meeting
Bill Tinker
Hi there
The web page shows an old meeting at the beginning of July. When will be the next one and where etc
Thanks
Bill
Mark Bate
Bill Tinker
Hi Mark
Thanks for getting back to me.
I have been a Visual Basic developer for the past 15 years, recently developing PDA applications, and have become disillusioned with Microsoft’s direction and quality. When I saw the iPhone I recognized it as an appliance I could use myself, (whereas even though I develop full-time for the PDA I don’t really want to use one myself).
I now have all the Apple equipment – iMac, iPhone books on Cocoa, Objective-C, XCode, 20 years of development experience, and lots of excitement. BUT… my VB experience is proving to be a stumbling block in knowing how to actually get started on the Mac!!! What I am looking for is somebody willing to spend a few hours – paid time – who can actually show me the process of creating a simple application, so I can identify what tools are used in what order and sort out the gems from the chaff. Are you able to put me onto anybody at all?
Thanks
Bill
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Gareth Townsend
Bill if you visit http://www.melbournecocoaheads.com in the right hand
column there is a link to the "Event Calendar" that is a google
calendar with all of the meetings in it. Subscribe to it in iCal and
you'll always know when the next meeting is.
I'm still not sure exactly who is speaking. So if you put your hand up
then let me know and I'll get the details out to everyone.
Come along to the meeting Bill. I'm sure we can find someone to give
you a crash course in iPhone App development.
Mark Bate
As far as getting started goes, the iPhone is very similar to OS X in
terms of development, as a result reading through developing in Cocoa
is a good place to get started as it'll give a basic grasp of what's
involved.
Apple has a lot of documentation on developing for both Mac OS X &
iPhone available at their developer site (developer.apple.com). The
OSX stuff is free to access, but most of the iPhone stuff (which has
some videos on the development process) you will need to be a
registered iPhone developer to view (cost of ~$100 for individual
developer), so it may be best to go through the OS X stuff first, get
comfortable with that, and then shift to the iPhone when you're ready.
As far as 3rd party resources go, every Cocoa developer will tell you
to get yourself a copy of the Aaron Hillegass books.
Edition 3 of his Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X book came out quite
recently (beginning of June), and covers Xcode 3.0 that came with
Leopard. The iPhone SDK bumps Xcode to 3.1, but overall it's pretty
similar. Well there's not as much change as there was between Xcode
2.x & 3.x anyway, trying to learn with Xcode 3 from the Edition 2 book
was kinda difficult.
There are books in the works that cover development specifically for
iPhone, but unfortunately Apple hasn't lifted the Non-Disclosure
Agreement on the iPhone SDK, so no-one can publish them yet.
If you have any issues or need someone to sit down with you and go
through things with you, just bring it up in one of the meetings.
There's usually someone there who can help you nut things through ;p
hope that helps,
and hopefully catch you at the next meet up,
mark
Oliver Jones
I recently started learning Mac OS X development with a long history
of working in the Windows and Java worlds. Cocoa is quite a bit
different.
The best book I've found to get started with is Aaron Hillegass'
one. Cocoa- Programming for Mac- OS X, Third edition. It starts at
the basics and gets you up and running pretty fast.
If you sign up at developer.apple.com you can also get access to some
good video content via iTunes.
Regards
On Jul 30, 10:39 am, "Bill Tinker" <b...@AriesSoftware.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Mark
>
> Thanks for getting back to me.
>
> I have been a Visual Basic developer for the past 15 years, recently
> developing PDA applications, and have become disillusioned with Microsoft's
> direction and quality. When I saw the iPhone I recognized it as an appliance
> I could use myself, (whereas even though I develop full-time for the PDA I
> don't really want to use one myself).
>
Luke Tupper
Bart van Deventer
There is a second edition of this book passed to the group by Mathieu
Tozer, I believe Robert Stainsby might have it still. Hopefully he
will bring it to the next meeting so you could make use of it.
There aren't a lot of differences between the two editions besides the
newer one being updated for the latest version of the Xcode Tools and
a few other bits and bobs.
I'd still recommend picking up the 3rd edition, it can be had from
Amazon.com for cheap enough.
-Bart.
On Jul 31, 7:35 pm, "Luke Tupper" <ltu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> My recommendation would be to work through Aaron Hilldegass book, Cocoa
> Programming for Mac OS X:
>
> http://www.bignerdranch.com/products.shtml
>
> It really is good introduction and will give you a good grounding in cocoa
> development. Then hunt down a cocoa developer to help you with the trickier
> parts.
>
> Thanks
>
> Luke
>
>
> > Hi Mark
>
> > Thanks for getting back to me.
>
> > I have been a Visual Basic developer for the past 15 years, recently
> > developing PDA applications, and have become disillusioned with Microsoft's
> > direction and quality. When I saw the iPhone I recognized it as an appliance
> > I could use myself, (whereas even though I develop full-time for the PDA I
> > don't really want to use one myself).
>
> > I now have all the Apple equipment – iMac, iPhone books on Cocoa,
> > Objective-C, XCode, 20 years of development experience, and lots of
> > excitement. BUT… my VB experience is proving to be a stumbling block in
> > knowing how to actually get started on the Mac!!! What I am looking for is
> > somebody willing to spend a few hours – paid time – who can actually show me
> > the process of creating a simple application, so I can identify what tools
> > are used in what order and sort out the gems from the chaff. Are you able to
> > put me onto anybody at all?
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Bill
>
> > melbourne-...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Bate
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2008 7:51 AM
> > *To:* melbourne-...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: Next meeting
> > Hi Bill,
>
> > I believe I saw a date of Thursday 14th of August being kicked around.
>
> > Gareth are we still going with that date?
>
> > Also, it would seem one of our own has a little something in the app store,
> > so it'd be good to give it a plug.
>
> > Gareth's "Here I Am" hit the app store yesterday (
> >http://tinyurl.com/5goq7s).
>
> > It's a pretty neat little app that uses the location stuff in the iPhone to
> > figure out where you are, and then allows you to send the Google maps link
> > to a friend.
>
> > So congrats to Gareth on "Here I Am".
>
> > thanks,
>
> > mark
>
> > On 29/07/2008, at 9:41 PM, Bill Tinker wrote:
>
> > Hi there
>
> > The web page shows an old meeting at the beginning of July. When will be
> > the next one and where etc
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Bill
>
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>
Bill Tinker
Thanks for the suggestions.
I have obtained copies of...
Hillegass, Cocoa Programming 3rd Edition
Kochan, Programming in Objective-C
Anderson, Step into X code
Pogue, Switching to the Mac
(Thanks to Amazon and the $AUD)
All I need now is a month of Sundays to read and play.
Thanks
Bill
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