Fake streets in UBD street directory
cnwb
for watches and clothes you'll never be able to afford), had a little
article about the Melway - lots of interesting facts. It mentioned that
UBD released directories with fake streets scattered throughout, so
that they could know when other directories had copied them instead of
doing their own cartography.
I'd heard of this practice before, but hadn't heard of any Melbourne
examples until now.
Does anyone know what the fake streets were called? Or where they were?
Stephen Oakes
"Paul Dwerryhouse" <paul+...@dwerryhouse.com.au> wrote...
> Does anyone in Melbourne actually /use/ any street directory other than
> a Melways? ;)
Yes. I use a Melway.
</pedantic>
--
Stephen Oakes
Stephen Oakes
"Stephen Oakes" <soa...@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
> Yes. I use a Melway.
Sut beriously, I do have an old UBD but they just are simply not as good as
the Melway(s).
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Stephen Oakes
cnwb
Peter Parker
"Paul Dwerryhouse" <paul+...@dwerryhouse.com.au> wrote in message
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> Does anyone in Melbourne actually /use/ any street directory other than
> a Melways? ;)
Yes.
Melway at home and a little Gregorys one when out.
The former is too bulky to cart everywhere.
Isn't the UBD supposed to be the official AFL directory due to a sponsorship
deal?
Peter
Martin Taylor
>
> "Stephen Oakes" <soa...@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
>> Yes. I use a Melway.
>
> Sut beriously, I do have an old UBD but they just are simply not as good
> as the Melway(s).
Why? We bought a UBD one recently. It cost about the third of the price
of a Melway. Comparing it with the Melway that it replaced, I can't see
anything about it that would make it an inferior product.
Kwyjibo.
> Did you buy it at Myers?
>
No. At Cole.
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Daniel Bowen
"Martin Taylor" <mjp...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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So when someone tells you to meet them on map 68 F5, what do you do? :-)
Daniel
Daniel Bowen
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> Isn't the UBD supposed to be the official AFL directory due to a
> sponsorship
> deal?
Good grief. Other than so money can exchange hands, why would there be an
official AFL street directory?
Daniel
Mick
"Daniel Bowen" <danie...@custard.REMOVETHIS.net.au> wrote in message
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Lets see which one will it be Melways, Gregory's or UBD?
I've grown up using Melways. I've had a look at the others and for some strange
reason just didn't like the style/layout of the maps.
--
Mick (:-D
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which
they seldom use."
Soren Kierkegaard
Danish Philosopher 1813-1855
Stephen Oakes
"Martin Taylor" <mjp...@yahoo.com.au> wrote...
>> Sut beriously, I do have an old UBD but they just are simply not as good
>> as the Melway(s).
>
> Why? We bought a UBD one recently. It cost about the third of the price
> of a Melway. Comparing it with the Melway that it replaced, I can't see
> anything about it that would make it an inferior product.
I have to admit it has been a long time since I have seen a UBD. I looked
at one today and they are MUCH much better than they used to be. In fact
their maps look a lot like those in the Melway...hmmm...so who's afraid of
being copied? ;-)
If they really are that much cheaper I would certainly consider using them
in the future.
--
Stephen Oakes
Martin Taylor
>> Why? We bought a UBD one recently. It cost about the third of the price
>> of a Melway. Comparing it with the Melway that it replaced, I can't see
>> anything about it that would make it an inferior product.
>
> So when someone tells you to meet them on map 68 F5, what do you do? :-)
I wouldn't. I'd say that we'd meet at such and such street. Or, if I
were to give a map reference, I'd specify which book it comes from. They
both have indexes and lists of streets. So, it wouldn't be too hard for
them to figure out where to go, if they aren't familiar with the area in
question.
Mick
"Ms Leebee" <leebeeNOTHI...@ozdebate.com> wrote in message
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> Mick wrote:
> > "Daniel Bowen" <danie...@custard.REMOVETHIS.net.au> wrote in
> > message news:4337d659$1...@news.melbourne.pipenetworks.com...
> >>
> >> "Martin Taylor" <mjp...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:4334f1c2.7c...@yahoo.com.au...
> >>> Stephen said....
> >>>> "Stephen Oakes" <soa...@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
> >>>>> Yes. I use a Melway.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sut beriously, I do have an old UBD but they just are simply not
> >>>> as good as the Melway(s).
> >>>
> >>> Why? We bought a UBD one recently. It cost about the third of the
> >>> price of a Melway. Comparing it with the Melway that it replaced, I
> >>> can't see anything about it that would make it an inferior product.
> >>
> >> So when someone tells you to meet them on map 68 F5, what do you do?
> >> :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> > I suppose it would depend on which brand of street directory you are
> > using.
>
>
Not long really. Only about 26 years ;-)
foxidrive
> "Ms Leebee" <leebeeNOTHI...@ozdebate.com> wrote in message
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>> Lived in Melbourne long ?
>>
> Not long really. Only about 26 years ;-)
Bloody newcomers! :)
Mick
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Daniel Bowen
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> I have to admit it has been a long time since I have seen a UBD. I looked
> at one today and they are MUCH much better than they used to be. In fact
> their maps look a lot like those in the Melway...hmmm...so who's afraid of
> being copied? ;-)
>
> If they really are that much cheaper I would certainly consider using them
> in the future.
I've compared. Not impressed with the UBD.
Just try to get public transport route info out of it, for instance. There's
that and heaps of other stuff that Melway has but the others don't.
Daniel
--
"I remember getting my car serviced and giving someone my Melways map
reference with my address to pick me up, and thinking, gosh my whole life
has been lived on Map 58. It's a good map, but I needed to leave my comfort
zone." -- Esther Clerehan
Daniel Bowen
> Daniel Bowen wrote:
>> "Martin Taylor" <mjp...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4334f1c2.7c...@yahoo.com.au...
>>> price of a Melway. Comparing it with the Melway that it replaced, I
>>> can't see anything about it that would make it an inferior product.
>>
>> So when someone tells you to meet them on map 68 F5, what do you do?
>
Probably not, just winding him up :-)
But a lot of people do offer Melway references with addresses to businesses,
parties etc.
Daniel
Michael W
Which is still no good if people don't have a current edition as quite often
the map refs change with each new edition.
Daniel Bowen
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> "Daniel Bowen" <danie...@custard.REMOVETHIS.net.au> wrote in message
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>> businesses, parties etc.
>
> Which is still no good if people don't have a current edition as quite
> often the map refs change with each new edition.
No they don't. At least, some regional maps changed a few years ago, but
Melbourne and suburbs have always been consistent. Map 68 (my map) in 1970
is the same map 68 today.
This is both a curse and a blessing for Melway: consistency is very good,
but it's led to the problems with the maps all being jumbled up as the
coverage has expanded, so moving east to west, you jump around in the
directory.
Daniel
whiteMemphis
so want to get to Emerald City <sigh> (yes, of course you too Toto).
Martin Taylor
>>> So when someone tells you to meet them on map 68 F5, what do you do?
>>
>> Do people actually say that ?
>
> Probably not, just winding him up :-)
You'll have to do better than that, Daniel. There are some things that
wind me up. UBD/Melway map references isn't one of them...
Daniel Bowen
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> I've yet to find a ref to the Yellow Brick Road in any of them, and I
> do
> so want to get to Emerald City <sigh> (yes, of course you too Toto).
Well, we do have an Emerald. It ain't a city though...
Daniel
whiteMemphis
out there
Peter Parker
Dunno, but it's confirmed here:
http://www.ubd.com.au/index_html?page=directories&product_type_id=1
Naomi Klein's 'No Logo' (which I'm reading now) gives a good explanation of
these sorts of unconventional marketing/sponsorship deals.
Peter
Joe Murray
> I've yet to find a ref to the Yellow Brick Road in any of them, and I
do
> so want to get to Emerald City <sigh> (yes, of course you too Toto).
older Melways did list it as 'White Brick Road', but that was before Toto
got there.
--
Joe M.
Yoobeedee
> I find their streets are wider, bigger, clearer. More user-friendly.
> Although i'm using a Melways ATM, so i'm not very loyal to my
> preferences, am I ? ;)
I chucked out my old Melways and today bought a UBD. I came home to find my street was wider, bigger and
clearer, with nice big trees planted down each side. Not only that but my house had been renovated!