Beware of Hungry Jacks Burgers (Ribo rash)
RV
They poisoned me the rotten phukers..
Had a few meals from there for lunches in the last week, not every
day. Never had the fries, only a bacon burger and sprite.
I eat a burger and fries today, 45 mins later my entire body is
itching and my skin is red, big lumps all over like Id been bitten all
over by bull ants.
My arms and chest looked like the face of that Victor guy in Russia
who got poisoned.
Back of the neck feels fat, ears starting to swell.
Face burning hot.
I can feel the skin on the back of my hands tightening as my hands
swell up.
Freaked the shit out of me.
Never had a reaction like that to anything..
Only thing I ate since breakfast (cerial only as usual) so I go back
to the store.
See manager, no go there
so I tell him if I find out something that means they made me sick.
"I'll be back"
And if he finds out what it is, he better call me.
Mate of mine with me calls his old man, (Doc) he says go get
antihistamines, if it gets worse come over for a shot of cortisone.
So I have to leave work and the others to lockup.
Got the pills (claratyne), took one and within 1/2hr rash is gone.
A few hrs later a call from the store manager.
Im not the only one.
Tells me this was all due to them not "changing the spatulas as often
as required"
I accepted his explantions, and got a "sorry about that mate" out of
him, that was about it.
By my rekoning if the issue was due to cleanliness, poisoning would
have come in a different form. (via sludgy trumpet)
Id have a botty bug or some bial churning..
But not so.
Its most certainly a reaction to something.
5 hrs later so far so good.
Still feel a bit ...... odd.
Occasionaly itch and some heart palpitations.
I think Ill need another pill by morning
So after I bit of Googling and made a discovery.
Seem this is a fairly popular event.
Flavour enhancer 635
Ribo rash they call it.
ribonucleotides
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.i...s/635/RIBO1.htm
And Hungry Jacks is in the frame big time.
(Named in that site by one complainant.)
Hungry Jacks makes there burgers taste better by making them Toxic.
The scum poisoned me and I AM gunna get my pound of their flesh for
it.
Odd thing is, this particular store was some weeks ago, trashed badly,
all the signs out the rear smashed and windows broken, someone really
goit into the place.
Took them weeks to fix it, some signs still not fixed.
Maybe someone else got a nasty surprise there like me and got a little
mad.
Not my style though,, no sense in getting mad when you can get even.
After all that's what ACA, TT and drive time talkback radio is for.
For anyone considering eating Hungry Jacks tomorrow,
best of luck.
Cheers
Dave
RV
As a followup
Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
However, the fries where the only thing I had that I did not have any
other day.
I look at the fries and note something off.
http://www.hungryjacks.com.au/guide/ngFriesReg.htm
I seem to see an absence of any salt mentioned of the kind they
liberally sprinkle on the fires.
The site says it just potatoe and oil.
Where is the salt information
One thing I noted is the fries tasted particulalry good, ate em all, i
usully dont with Roosters fires that taste more plain like plain old
chips.
And 635 it seems is used because it improves the effect of MSG x 5 to
10 times.
Extra flavour.
I think the special unidentified tasty toxic salts on the fries may be
the culprit.
Seems hungry Jacks are not saying what it is, it sure isnt table salt.
Anyway, 5 AMish and Im still ok but can feel the itching a bit more
than earlier in the evening.
Ears and back of neck feel a bit fat.
I intended to stay awake long enough till daytime and I can take
another antihistamine.
I dont want to sleep now and wake up later looking the Victor Yushenko
again.
This is fucked.
I want to slice a pound flesh out of some HJ pencil necks rotten arse
for poisoning me.
If I get my way, they will have a dart board in their offices with my
face on it, and curse it everytime they walk past.
Anyone here can direct me to a food testing lab in Melb Id appreciate
that. I need to drop off a Burger and Fries to them,
I want to know what it is they poisoned me with so I can hang them
with it, and make it stick.
I don't know what it was, but I do know it came from HJ's and the Doc
says the timing of 45mis was right on the money as the source of it.
Cheers
canetoad
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:54:22 GMT, RV <do_no...@email.com> wrote:
>
>
> As a followup
>
> Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
>
> The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
Geez Dave, sorry that happened to you. A quick Google showed this about 635.
"We have also received many reports of skin rashes associated with new
additive 635 which is a combination of 627 and 631."
Also, that the effects are cumulative, meaning if you get another dose,
you may very well end up a lot worse than you were this time.
From this site http://www.mbm.net.au/health/620-640.htm, it seems there
are two variations of 635, one of which is banned in Australia.
Because you ate it before and had no reaction, I'm betting some stuff up
happened - young or unsupervised staff added too much; it's not out of
the question that it was done on purpose, as I once knew a smartarse
little apprentice chef who 'chillied up' a lot of food for a joke.
Either way, this deserves to be exposed, especially if they are not
fessing up to using the stuff.
Stephen Oakes
I guess the main conclusion is "avoid fast food".
--
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werdan
"Stephen Oakes" <soa...@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> All very interesting.
>
> I guess the main conclusion is "avoid fast food".
>
It has been for years, hasn't it?
RV
<cane...@smallpond.invalid> wrote:
>RV wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:54:22 GMT, RV <do_no...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> As a followup
>>
>> Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
>>
>> The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
><snip>
>
>Geez Dave, sorry that happened to you. A quick Google showed this about 635.
>
>"We have also received many reports of skin rashes associated with new
>additive 635 which is a combination of 627 and 631."
>
>Also, that the effects are cumulative, meaning if you get another dose,
>you may very well end up a lot worse than you were this time.
>
> From this site http://www.mbm.net.au/health/620-640.htm, it seems there
>are two variations of 635, one of which is banned in Australia.
Thanks for the link
Revisiting them armed with a bit of info might help.
>
>Because you ate it before and had no reaction, I'm betting some stuff up
>happened - young or unsupervised staff added too much; it's not out of
>the question that it was done on purpose, as I once knew a smartarse
>little apprentice chef who 'chillied up' a lot of food for a joke.
>Either way, this deserves to be exposed, especially if they are not
>fessing up to using the stuff.
This would not shock me, thay seem to forget what I ordered by the
time I make it to the pickup window more times than normal drive
thru's.
They aint too bright in there and the manager looks about 17
However, even if they are all shit for brains, they shouldnt have
control over a toxic substance if trhe does result in what could be a
life threatening condition of gettring a swollen elephant like head to
the point you cant breath anymore.
So at that raste, even if the staff are all retarded, I dont blame
them.
HJ's put the poison in their hands and they need to be stopped.
Cheers.
RV
No doubt.
But the alternativfge is Bain marie belly.
Resulting in sludgy trumpets and sneaky poos.
I was cured of Maccas about 20 years ago.
Ate a Mac one day and got the Mother of all gasses.
My stomach was swellling with gas so bad I thouyght I was having
tiwns.
And once the gas was released, oh boy, putrifaction city, extinguish
all naked flames. avoid pilot lights.
Guess someone spilt the enzyme powder in the burger mix.
Never ate that shit again.
Emjaye
> Hungry Jacks makes there burgers taste better by making them Toxic.
I wonder what's done to the chook that it puts in its baguettes. Or
maybe I don't want to know. HJ's chicken baguettes are the only meals
that I get from fast food joints, souvlakis from the local fish and chip
shop excepted.
Kris
ages to be served by rude staff and the place was sticky and dirty. There
was a spill that the staff kept walking past and it was a seriously large
spill. The spill was there went we were in queue and still there when we
walked out, not a single staff member did anything.
My opinion on Hungry Jacks is 2/10 no joke.
"RV" <do_no...@email.com> wrote in message
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RV
wrote:
Suddenly a Souvlaki or Fat Greasy Burger from some old codger in a
gruby chesty bond singlet sounds like a healhy choice compared to
Hungry Jacks.
Id say the chicken is safe, but I dont trust the extras they add to
the food, it seems to avoid any reference to the contents of in theire
food content disclosuers.
Focusing on the whole food content only, avoiding the muck they smear
and sprinkle on everything, likely citing it not as food but as
condements.
Stephen Oakes
"Emjaye" <emja...@yarwho.com.au> wrote...
> I wonder what's done to the chook that it puts in its baguettes. Or
> maybe I don't want to know. HJ's chicken baguettes are the only meals
> that I get from fast food joints, souvlakis from the local fish and chip
> shop excepted.
Souvlakis and fish and chips are not fast food. They are real food, even if
greasy or full of gristle. The only flavour enhancer generally used by such
establishments is salt.
--
Stephen Oakes
Stephen Oakes
"Tricia" <m...@home.vic.au> wrote...
>> even if greasy or full of gristle. The only flavour enhancer
>> generally used by such establishments is salt.
>
Us too.
--
Stephen Oakes
Emjaye
> Suddenly a Souvlaki or Fat Greasy Burger from some old codger in a
> gruby chesty bond singlet sounds like a healhy choice compared to
> Hungry Jacks.
Dunno about that. But the shop that I get my souvlakis from is run by
Asians. Don't do a bad job, either.
Thing is, the idea is to have it occasionally. In my case, when we work
dayshift on Saturdays and the canteen's not open or if we don't bring
our lunch to work, we usually make a trip into town for the greasies.
So, I'd probably have a souvlaki every coupla weeks, at the most.
Emjaye
> Souvlakis and fish and chips are not fast food. They are real food,
> even if greasy or full of gristle. The only flavour enhancer generally
> used by such establishments is salt.
Depends on where you get 'em. Our fish and chip shop of choice isn't too
bad with respect to its souvlakis.
Anyway, we're getting more into middle eastern tucker. There's this
joint in Narre Warren near our daughter's place that makes some nice
stuff. Forget the name of the place, though.
RV
wrote:
Used to be a great one down near Carrum
Big fish selection, more than the avg chip shop.
Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
Think I might go back to it.
Tom N
> RV wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:54:22 GMT, RV <do_no...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> As a followup
>>
>> Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
>>
>> The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
> <snip>
>
> Geez Dave, sorry that happened to you. A quick Google showed this
> about 635.
>
> "We have also received many reports of skin rashes associated with new
> additive 635 which is a combination of 627 and 631."
>
> Also, that the effects are cumulative, meaning if you get another
> dose, you may very well end up a lot worse than you were this time.
>
> From this site http://www.mbm.net.au/health/620-640.htm, it seems
> there
> are two variations of 635, one of which is banned in Australia.
>
> Because you ate it before and had no reaction, I'm betting some stuff
> up happened - young or unsupervised staff added too much
It could be cumulative or RV could have developed a sensitivity to it
from repeated exposure.
If you look at the ingredients list for almost all packaged food, it
contains stuff like this.
For example, I used some Continental vegetable stock powder last night
in cooking and it's got 635 in it. Almost every packaged food has got
some ingredient made from wheat or dairy, which is great for those
trying to avoid them.
Even if takeaway food is free of additives like 635, they often use
cheap artery-clogging palm oil for frying instead of something healthy
like peanut, olive, canola. sunflower, or soybean,
HJ fries are listed as containing "Potato, vegetable oil (palm),
dextrose (wheat)". As RV says, they make no mention of seasoning, but
they use palm oil which is one that the Heart Foundation says to avoid.
BTW, Maccas is much more detailed in listing its ingredients than HJ.
Also Maccas use Canola, Soybeand and Sunflower oil although
occassionally oil is listed as "Canola oil blend" - blended with what?
Maccas use 635 in their BBQ sauce. They use palm oil in some fish and
poultry products, shakes and cookies.
RV
>canetoad wrote:
>
>> RV wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:54:22 GMT, RV <do_no...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As a followup
>>>
>>> Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
>>>
>>> The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Geez Dave, sorry that happened to you. A quick Google showed this
>> about 635.
>>
>> "We have also received many reports of skin rashes associated with new
>> additive 635 which is a combination of 627 and 631."
>>
>> Also, that the effects are cumulative, meaning if you get another
>> dose, you may very well end up a lot worse than you were this time.
>>
>> From this site http://www.mbm.net.au/health/620-640.htm, it seems
>> there
>> are two variations of 635, one of which is banned in Australia.
>>
>> Because you ate it before and had no reaction, I'm betting some stuff
>> up happened - young or unsupervised staff added too much
>
>It could be cumulative or RV could have developed a sensitivity to it
>from repeated exposure.
Doubtfull coinsidering they admit I was not the only one who suffered
it,
giveaway is the manager describing the symptom and asking me if I had
it.
>
>If you look at the ingredients list for almost all packaged food, it
>contains stuff like this.
>
Doesnt seem to bother me in anything else.
And I am not a fussy eater.
>For example, I used some Continental vegetable stock powder last night
>in cooking and it's got 635 in it. Almost every packaged food has got
>some ingredient made from wheat or dairy, which is great for those
>trying to avoid them.
>
No problem with them, eat plenty.
>Even if takeaway food is free of additives like 635, they often use
>cheap artery-clogging palm oil for frying instead of something healthy
>like peanut, olive, canola. sunflower, or soybean,
Yum
>
>HJ fries are listed as containing "Potato, vegetable oil (palm),
>dextrose (wheat)". As RV says, they make no mention of seasoning, but
>they use palm oil which is one that the Heart Foundation says to avoid.
Any oil is fine for me.
>
>BTW, Maccas is much more detailed in listing its ingredients than HJ.
>Also Maccas use Canola, Soybeand and Sunflower oil although
>occassionally oil is listed as "Canola oil blend" - blended with what?
>
>Maccas use 635 in their BBQ sauce.
Had it and not had a problem with it.
> They use palm oil in some fish and
>poultry products, shakes and cookies.
All this fat and oil is making me hungry.
Fat foods are the diet I need.
I just dont need the little toxic surprises added.
If you do manual labour all day long 7 days a week, that isnt just
repetition, anything you eat gets burnt up so fast it doesnt get time
to be a problem.
What I had was not a poor food choice but some kind of reaction as a
result of a toxic dose of some substance, additive or other that was
in the food, the should not have been there or at the strength it was
to cause such a fast reaction and subsequent passing of the effect.
One claratyne got rid of the symptom, next morning all good and no
recurrence.
Doc says that is the key to it, the speed of the reaction and
diminshing.makes it clear it wasnt a normal bacterial poisoning.
More like a dose of some nasty gas or chemical which can result in the
same almost spontaneous reaction.
All the differs here is the addition of some time leading to the
reqaction being it was transmitted via food.
Fat foods dont make me fat.
I cant get fat, I can eat whatever I see. but I just never put on fat,
it just turns to muscle.
If I dont eat enough, I thin out real fast.
canetoad
> Fat foods dont make me fat.
> I cant get fat, I can eat whatever I see. but I just never put on fat,
> it just turns to muscle.
> If I dont eat enough, I thin out real fast.
Lucky bastard! But a big scoop of chemical will do it for you everytime.
BTW, did you contact anyone about it? I'd love to hear the outcome.
PHATRS
> Fat foods dont make me fat.
> I cant get fat, I can eat whatever I see. but I just never put on fat,
> it just turns to muscle.
> If I dont eat enough, I thin out real fast.
I don't think fatty foods make anyone fat. The fat is just bad for the
arteries and heart, no?
--
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"My name is Korg from planet dyslexia, your arses are fruity, take me
to your dealer, or you will all be laminated, ." RV, melb.general
RV
>RV wrote:
>
>> Fat foods dont make me fat.
>> I cant get fat, I can eat whatever I see. but I just never put on fat,
>> it just turns to muscle.
>> If I dont eat enough, I thin out real fast.
>
>I don't think fatty foods make anyone fat. The fat is just bad for the
>arteries and heart, no?
True.
Fatrty foods or Fat Food is simplistic.
Its more about portion size and intake / energy used than just content
I beleive..
But for those who have trouble with that, the improved or healtheir
content is one way to slow the effect I guess.
Any honest diet gurus will admit that fact that exercise is the best
way to dump the excess.
Fact is if you exercdise more than average, the rabbiot food diet isnt
too good for you.,
If you lack the exercise component then your circulation doesnt get to
a healthy rate very often and i beleive that is not good for the
arteries and circulation in general.
I think anyone that beloeives they will get thinner without exercise
is not being serious, and doing it via cutting back on food intake and
dropping some foods I think is a dangerous direction and you risk
having deficiences os some thing that the body requires.
Better to get Vitamins from your food than a bottle of pills.
RV
<cane...@smallpond.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Fat foods dont make me fat.
>> I cant get fat, I can eat whatever I see. but I just never put on fat,
>> it just turns to muscle.
>> If I dont eat enough, I thin out real fast.
>
>
>Lucky bastard! But a big scoop of chemical will do it for you everytime.
You bet!
>BTW, did you contact anyone about it? I'd love to hear the outcome.
Not again, I realyl don't have time to, I'd ratrher not hear a pack of
lies from them, it will just inmjfuriate me.
I just wont eat HJ's so long as my arse points to the ground.
And suggest to all others,
eat the stuff at your peril.
You may not get the same, but you might and if you do, you'll regret
ever eating HJ's, that I do know.
Cheers
Lindsay
RV wrote:
>
> Used to be a great one down near Carrum
> Big fish selection, more than the avg chip shop.
>
> Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
> Think I might go back to it.
The one next to Mordi Surf shop isnt too bad, and the souv's are magic.
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Lindsay
canetoad wrote:
>
> RV wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:54:22 GMT, RV <do_no...@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As a followup
> >
> > Looked over the Hungry Jacks website for info
> >
> > The burgers have no 635 or any 600 series additives.
> <snip>
>
> Geez Dave, sorry that happened to you. A quick Google showed this about 635.
>
> "We have also received many reports of skin rashes associated with new
> additive 635 which is a combination of 627 and 631."
Thats it! I went to HJ's once, and they microwaved a pre cooked
hamburger, and it was shit, as you'd expect. Never went back, and
now seeing this, I never will. I very rarely eat junk food...
I stopped at the first servo you come to at Lakes Entrance on the way
home yesterday... (Mobil? $133.9 per litre for fuel, and a sign saying
"save .4c per litre instantly... simply spend $5.00 in store"
Well, we now know how that little scam works.. wife got some fast
food for lunch for us (in the store), and no discount, coz it
goes "through a different register". Well, fuck you and your
register, mate! $5.90" for a shit chicken and cheese burger!
I thioght it was worth maybe $3.00. So thats where they win,
and we lose. Charge a fortune for anything in the store, and IF
you get a discount, it's a pissy $2.00 on a tank of fuel.
Steer clear of the arsehole. I know I'll never be back.
RV
wrote:
>
>
>RV wrote:
>
>>
>> Used to be a great one down near Carrum
>> Big fish selection, more than the avg chip shop.
>>
>> Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
>> Think I might go back to it.
>
>The one next to Mordi Surf shop isnt too bad, and the souv's are magic.
Been going to the one up the top end near the old post office.
Asian guys runs out now, a lot better than previous owners.
Got one with the lot Friday it was pretty good, but I might try the
one you suggest, could be better.
Cheers
Emjaye
> Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
> Think I might go back to it.
You probably don't eat enough of it. The general health of people on
lower socio-economic scales tend to be worse off. Mainly because of a
lack of education, being unable to afford or prepared to pay for better
quality food. Or being too lazy to cook.
Example: yesterday in Safeway, picking up some chicken breast to make
kebabs, a woman in front of me, typically attired in the clothing that
depicts someone not so well off, has this huge package of frozen generic
brand meat pies and a large bag of Safeway's branded mixed veges.
I'm assuming that this is the week's meals that she has planned for her
and her kids. Meat and 3 vege sort of thing...
Another mate owned a fish and chip shop for a while. He said that the
majority of clientele was from the nearby housing commission estate with
quite a few of them being regular customers, regular being more than
just every 2nd Friday night, but more like EVERY night.
Finally, in Fountain Gate on Sunday, having lunch with the missus and
daughter. We got some CHinese, a bit of Italian and some Indian. The
food court there has all these nice outlets with a wide variety of food
from all over. But what outlets have the biggest lines? KFC and
McDonalds...
RV
Checked it out today, good burgers.
Had a bacon burger, very nice.
Better than top of main st.
Asked some others, one other said the fish and chips are great there,
Only complaint they had is a steak sanga was a bit over flowing, a few
chewy bits in the steak made it hard to eat.
Ill be going back there for burgers in future, and maybe fish and
chips.
Cheers
RV
wrote:
>RV said...
>
>> Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
>> Think I might go back to it.
>
>You probably don't eat enough of it.
Shit loads.
Enough to be known on sight by takeaway proprietors.
>The general health of people on
>lower socio-economic scales tend to be worse off. Mainly because of a
>lack of education, being unable to afford or prepared to pay for better
>quality food. Or being too lazy to cook.
Complete rubbish.
The more well off tend to eat out a lot more.
Too much rich food too often.
More likely to go for some wanky diet that makes no contribution to
their health.
And more.....
>
>Example: yesterday in Safeway, picking up some chicken breast to make
>kebabs, a woman in front of me, typically attired in the clothing that
>depicts someone not so well off, has this huge package of frozen generic
>brand meat pies and a large bag of Safeway's branded mixed veges.
>
>I'm assuming that this is the week's meals that she has planned for her
>and her kids. Meat and 3 vege sort of thing...
What is the diff in health.
between toorak tarts with a face and tit job, shoving $200 into the
car boot 2 times a week worth of Gourmet Four and Twenties, frozen
microwave pizzas, fancy condements, icecreams and chocolate biscuits
and a host of other treats for theire spoilt brats ,
And some fat poor lady shoving non name pies and 1 bag of frozen veg.
About nothing.
Your attampt to draw a parralellel between wealth and healthy diet is
just a load of pompous drivel
Of the like we'd hear from the likes of Malcolm Turnbull and other
wealthy iinbreds who shouldnt be allowed to control anything more than
the key to the executive shithouse.
>
>Another mate owned a fish and chip shop for a while. He said that the
>majority of clientele was from the nearby housing commission estate with
>quite a few of them being regular customers, regular being more than
>just every 2nd Friday night, but more like EVERY night.
So he has a business in a povo suburb and thinks that represents the
whole of Melb.
What a dope.
Seems he never made it "uptown" to see how the rich dills live.
>
>Finally, in Fountain Gate on Sunday, having lunch with the missus and
>daughter. We got some CHinese, a bit of Italian and some Indian. The
>food court there has all these nice outlets with a wide variety of food
>from all over. But what outlets have the biggest lines? KFC and
>McDonalds...
Youre foolling yourself.
Maccas and KFC cream the shit out others in any town and any suburb or
shopping centre..
About the only 2 businesses that Id want to be as far away as possible
if I owned a food shop.
Got two hopes in hell of attracting any of their customers to eat
anything else.
Go to Maccas and High St Prahran.
See all the Toorakites in droves of SUV's dragging the brats to the
place.
You do seem to see the world around you through a very narrow window,
as such you only have a view of that which you already wish to see and
see nothing you are not specifically looking for.
A lot of things pass you by that you will never know of.
Emjaye
>>The general health of people on
>>lower socio-economic scales tend to be worse off. Mainly because of a
>>lack of education, being unable to afford or prepared to pay for better
>>quality food. Or being too lazy to cook.
>
> Complete rubbish.
Not "complete rubbish" at all.
It's basic Year 12 "Human Development" stuff.
Stephen Oakes
"RV" <do_no...@email.com> wrote...
>>The general health of people on
>>lower socio-economic scales tend to be worse off. Mainly because of a
>>lack of education, being unable to afford or prepared to pay for better
>>quality food. Or being too lazy to cook.
>
> Complete rubbish.
Nope. It may be a bit of a generalisation, but it's basically true.
> The more well off tend to eat out a lot more.
Yes, but not at McDonalds, FFS.
> Too much rich food too often.
Sure - plenty of rich people are unhealthy from eating too much. That
doesn't change the fact that plenty of poor / uneducated people are
unhealthy from eating the wrong things.
--
Stephen Oakes
PHATRS
> Finally, in Fountain Gate on Sunday, having lunch with the missus and
> daughter. We got some CHinese, a bit of Italian and some Indian. The
> food court there has all these nice outlets with a wide variety of food
> from all over. But what outlets have the biggest lines? KFC and
> McDonalds...
>
Same at The Glen in Glen Waverley - Hungry Jacks and KFC have the
biggest lines.
RV
wrote:
>RV said...
Year 12 "Human Development" studies
Must be a joke.
Or just worng interpretations of health stats derived from Public
health instutution figures in which the poor are the vast majority of
users of.
RV
<soa...@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
>"RV" <do_no...@email.com> wrote...
>>>The general health of people on
>>>lower socio-economic scales tend to be worse off. Mainly because of a
>>>lack of education, being unable to afford or prepared to pay for better
>>>quality food. Or being too lazy to cook.
>>
>> Complete rubbish.
>
>Nope. It may be a bit of a generalisation, but it's basically true.
Aint so.
>
>> The more well off tend to eat out a lot more.
>
>Yes, but not at McDonalds, FFS.
So you claim fancy restraunts serving courses of rich foods are
healthier than McDonalds.
Crap.
>
>> Too much rich food too often.
>
>Sure - plenty of rich people are unhealthy from eating too much. That
>doesn't change the fact that plenty of poor / uneducated people are
>unhealthy from eating the wrong things.
So both are unhealthy if they eat too much of the wrong thing.
Bleeding obvious that is.
Stephen Oakes
"RV" <do_no...@email.com> wrote...
>>Yes, but not at McDonalds, FFS.
>
> So you claim fancy restraunts serving courses of rich foods are
> healthier than McDonalds.
By about 7 orders of magnitude.
> So both are unhealthy if they eat too much of the wrong thing.
> Bleeding obvious that is.
Wow. From "some people are unhealthy from eating too much" you derive
"everyone is unhealthy".
--
Stephen Oakes
Emjaye
>>It's basic Year 12 "Human Development" stuff.
>>
>
> Year 12 "Human Development" studies
> Must be a joke.
>
> Or just worng interpretations of health stats derived from Public
> health instutution figures in which the poor are the vast majority of
> users of.
May well be. If that's the case, then the academics and other
professionals that make up the curriculum all need the sack. I just
looked up one of my daughter's old Y12 Human Dev. text books which I
found when moving the other day. Talks about the generally lower
standard of health for those at the bottom end of the socio-economic
scale.
This is mainly due to the fact that they aren't well educated, not aware
of healthy ways of eating, can't afford the better quality cuts of meat,
for example. Or just too damned lazy to get off their arses and learn
how to cook healthier food. Also, lack of hygene comes into it as well.
This takes in food prep, cleanliness in food prep. and so on.
Anyway, I think that I'd believe someone with a "Dr" title in front of
his or her name than some anonymous poster on Usenet who calls
him/herself "RV".
RV
wrote:
>RV said....
>
>>>It's basic Year 12 "Human Development" stuff.
>>>
>>
>> Year 12 "Human Development" studies
>> Must be a joke.
>>
>> Or just worng interpretations of health stats derived from Public
>> health instutution figures in which the poor are the vast majority of
>> users of.
>
>May well be. If that's the case, then the academics and other
>professionals that make up the curriculum all need the sack. I just
>looked up one of my daughter's old Y12 Human Dev. text books which I
>found when moving the other day. Talks about the generally lower
>standard of health for those at the bottom end of the socio-economic
>scale.
Yeah in Africa and some other places, but this is Melbourne.
>
>This is mainly due to the fact that they aren't well educated, not aware
>of healthy ways of eating, can't afford the better quality cuts of meat,
>for example. Or just too damned lazy to get off their arses and learn
>how to cook healthier food. Also, lack of hygene comes into it as well.
>This takes in food prep, cleanliness in food prep. and so on.
>
Bull twang, not in Melbourne cheech.
>Anyway, I think that I'd believe someone with a "Dr" title in front of
>his or her name than some anonymous poster on Usenet who calls
>him/herself "RV".
RV turns to brother the Physican and asks, is povery linked ot poor
health.
Yeah in third world countires it is mate, but here in Aus their all
fat and well fed, the threads on their back is all that differs.
We have social welfare and charities that thrid world contiures lack.
If youre poor in Rawanda, youre fucked and starving.
Physician trumps your Doctor.
Emjaye
>>his or her name than some anonymous poster on Usenet who calls
>>him/herself "RV".
>
> RV turns to brother the Physican and asks, is povery linked ot poor
> health.
> Yeah in third world countires it is mate, but here in Aus their all
> fat and well fed, the threads on their back is all that differs.
> We have social welfare and charities that thrid world contiures lack.
> If youre poor in Rawanda, youre fucked and starving.
>
> Physician trumps your Doctor.
Well, maybe he should turn in his licence to practise, then...
RV
Emjaye
>>> Physician trumps your Doctor.
>>
>>Well, maybe he should turn in his licence to practise, then...
>
> Says you, Janitor.
Yep, easy enough to say. Just like the bullshit that you've been
spouting, what with your imaginary "physician" sibling...
RV
wrote:
A dripping mop must have leaked into your shoe and flooded your brain.
Andrew
>>Yep, easy enough to say. Just like the bullshit that you've been
>>spouting, what with your imaginary "physician" sibling...
>>
> A dripping mop must have leaked into your shoe and flooded your brain.
>
did you spend a while on that one!? ;)
RV
Depends.
How long s a while ?
Emjaye
>>Yep, easy enough to say. Just like the bullshit that you've been
>>spouting, what with your imaginary "physician" sibling...
>>
> A dripping mop must have leaked into your shoe and flooded your brain.
Ooh. This must be where I curl up and die...
RV
>
>
>RV wrote:
>
>>
>> Used to be a great one down near Carrum
>> Big fish selection, more than the avg chip shop.
>>
>> Come to think of it I've never got sick from fish & chip shop food.
>> Think I might go back to it.
>
>The one next to Mordi Surf shop isnt too bad, and the souv's are magic.
Update to older post
Lindsay and anyone else who read it.
Well I had been going to the Bridge burger shop, as mentioned the
burgers where good.
But I went an got a Bacon and Egg burger instead of just Bacon.
Wham, Victor Yuskenko rash in about 40 minutes after.
A few claratine eleviated that.
Ive also noticed that I am now getting the same reaction to the bacon
and egg muffins at the lunch shop in Industrial Dve.
Never used to, been eating them most mornings for a year, but now I do
after the Hungry Jacks poisoning.
Pisses me off because I like the muffins, they are open at 5AM when I
am working in my factory just down the street a bit and they are great
people down there and I do not have the heart to tell them I cannot
eat there due to the fear of breaking out in a whole body rash of red
lumps.
So I started going to the burger shop over the road from the Bridge
burger shop instead.
As good as the Bridge, so I decided to try the Bacon Egg burger there
and see if I had the reaction I am now getting from Bacon Egg burgers
at the Bridge and local lunch shop.
No reaction,
Been bying Bacon Egg burger for lunch there for some months now, never
a blip of rash.
Decided maybe it has passed so I tried the local lunch shop again.
No good, I broke out in the Victor Yushenko rash.
So, the Bacon and Egg burgers from the Bridge burger shop and Lunch
shop cause the reaction just like originally occured with the Hungry
Jacks burgers I got the first poisoning from.
But the burger shop on the other side near the railway crossing causes
no reaction at all.
So I need to see a food lab and take one of each to them and have them
analyzed to see what is in the Bacon Egg burgers from those three
place, that is not in the ones from the 4th place.
This I hope will tell me the actual substance that is causing the
reaction that I never had in my life untill I ate Hungry Jacks and
broke out badly.
Once I know that, I will hound Hungry Jacks (owned by Burger King USA)
for overdosing me with the stuff suffice to cause a life long reaction
to the substance that now appears is commonly used in other places,
that I never suffered in the past.
I can't eat a bag of chips or anything now without being paranoid, and
I cant go anywhere without a packet of Claratine pills to deal with a
reaction.
I went skiing and had to ensure I had them on me in case I got a
reaction from a purchased lunch.
Anywhere I go and need to buy a meal, the pills have to be with me.
Should have called the cops that day and reported being poisoned by
the Hungry Jacks store is my only regret.
Fortunately I consulted a Doctor 1 hr after it ocured who was the one
who provided the Claratine to eleviate the reaction, so I can call on
him for testimony to the facts.
But the warning to all is clear.
It is a fact I shall prove to all in time.
Hungry Jacks is toxic, you eat it and you are eating substances that
are toxic enough that a small amount over the normal amount causes a
toxic reaction that may sensitise you to certain foods for the rest of
your life.
Which foods you will never know until you have a reaction.
Gary R. Schmidt
[SNIP trials of a bacon & egg burger allergy...]
It would be cheaper to have a full-on allergy test done, then you would
*know*, with a qualified medical opinion, *exactly* what causes the rash.
And you could claim the consultation on Medicare.
Getting the food samples tested will probably cost you thousands of
dollars, and may either be inconclusive (as in, "there is no
quantitative difference") or provide too much information ("substance X
is present in sample 1 at is 10000 times sample 2, substance Y is a
15000, ...").
Go and see a doctor, and get a referral to an allergy specialist.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Captain Murphy
I'd check the type of eggs each shop uses.
Maybe the one that doesn't give you the rash is using organic eggs?
Battery farms usually dose the chooks up on chemicals to produce
more eggs, or yellower yolks, etc.
It's weird that some eggs do and some don't. Do supermarket eggs
produce the same reaction? Possible that eggs produced for the
commercial market may be different than for the retail market.
I'd have a crack at trying some organic eggs and see if they do
the same.
"RV" <do_no...@email.com> wrote in message
news:ba82h3t5dvb50l2mr...@4ax.com...
RV
<grsc...@acm.org> wrote:
>RV wrote:
>[SNIP trials of a bacon & egg burger allergy...]
>
>It would be cheaper to have a full-on allergy test done, then you would
>*know*, with a qualified medical opinion, *exactly* what causes the rash.
No need to use a blunt method of discovery, it is a singular
substance, not a range of.
Not saying that allergy tests do not work, they do.
The fact they have to stick you with everything first to see if you
react to it, clear it is not an exact method and there is no cause for
me to use that method.
If I had allergies to a number of things that is generally the case
for allergic folks, I might try it.
But that's not the case.
Medicine has come a long way in the last 70 years, but not everything
has evolved into precise science
Like Mental illness, they shove everything into the poor buggers to
see what works, and the patient can hope what they end up with doesn't
kill them before they make 50yo, which it does in the case of many
drugs used for mental illness.
If I did that to a car Id fuck it within a week, it wouldnt make a
1,000 ks
>
>And you could claim the consultation on Medicare.
>
>Getting the food samples tested will probably cost you thousands of
>dollars, and may either be inconclusive (as in, "there is no
>quantitative difference") or provide too much information ("substance X
>is present in sample 1 at is 10000 times sample 2, substance Y is a
>15000, ...").
Or it could show a result of a nominal value that provides some
evidence to the suspicion.
Thats the 50/50 chance you take when you throw down your cash.
>
>Go and see a doctor, and get a referral to an allergy specialist.
I did, my older brother the Physician Neurologist.
And thanks to him so far we know I am not imagining it.
Thank's for your suggestions anyway.
RV
<capn...@sealab2021.net> wrote:
>
>I'd check the type of eggs each shop uses.
>
>Maybe the one that doesn't give you the rash is using organic eggs?
>Battery farms usually dose the chooks up on chemicals to produce
>more eggs, or yellower yolks, etc.
That was high on my list but some things dont add up on the egg theory
I had.
OR
What they had on the hot plate before the put the eggs on.
I can say this, the burgers I get no reaction from, are a little less
tasty than the others.
So on that basis I suspect a seasoning salt of some kind.
>
>It's weird that some eggs do and some don't. Do supermarket eggs
>produce the same reaction? Possible that eggs produced for the
>commercial market may be different than for the retail market.
Not at all, seems it is only in a cooked burger.
As mentioned above it may be eggs but then the odd thing is that the
cooked burger I get from the Bridge burger shop with no egg are fine,
no reaction.
It is only when they add the egg in 3 of the 4 places.
That kind of rules out the hot plate theory since the no egg burgers
they cook on it are fine.
And it is not eggs alone.
Trouble is I dont want to alarm the lunch shop or the 1st burger shop
quizing them about the eggs used and what might be added to the eggs.
They are nice people and I am sure enough it is not their fault in
anyway.
But if I cant figure it any other way I may have to front them and ask
if there is anything they put on the eggs when they make the egg bacon
burgers.
>
>I'd have a crack at trying some organic eggs and see if they do
>the same.
i may, it's just the rash comes in incredibly fast and I find that a
bit freaky, I am not too keen to force a reaction.
Ill leave that for the one time I have a good idea of what it is and
need to confirm it.
Thank's for your advice..
Tom N
> "Captain Murphy" wrote:
>
>>I'd check the type of eggs each shop uses.
>>
>>Maybe the one that doesn't give you the rash is using organic eggs?
>>Battery farms usually dose the chooks up on chemicals to produce
>>more eggs, or yellower yolks, etc.
>
> That was high on my list but some things dont add up on the egg theory
> I had.
> OR
> What they had on the hot plate before the put the eggs on.
>
> I can say this, the burgers I get no reaction from, are a little less
> tasty than the others.
> So on that basis I suspect a seasoning salt of some kind.
That could be it. Could also be preservatives in bacon or beef patties
Could just be coincidence that the ones with eggs in them also use the
wrong kind (for you) of bacon.
The original problem was at Hungry Jacks - was there an egg in that
burger?
The trouble with trying to diagnose it yourself is that you could have a
worse reaction next time. So IMO any testing is best done under medical
supervision.
You could have a prick test done. Talk to your doctor about buying one
of the bad burgers, and taking it to your doctor who scratches your skin
and rubs on one ingredient per scratched spot - egg white, egg yolk,
bacon, sauce, burger - get some of the same salt extra in a paper bag or
cup (might be easier to get the salt if you ask for $2 worth of chips).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_test#Diagnosis
>>It's weird that some eggs do and some don't. Do supermarket eggs
>>produce the same reaction? Possible that eggs produced for the
>>commercial market may be different than for the retail market.
>
> Not at all, seems it is only in a cooked burger.
> As mentioned above it may be eggs but then the odd thing is that the
> cooked burger I get from the Bridge burger shop with no egg are fine,
> no reaction.
Perhaps they put different sauce on it when it has an egg in it.
> It is only when they add the egg in 3 of the 4 places.
>
> That kind of rules out the hot plate theory since the no egg burgers
> they cook on it are fine.
> And it is not eggs alone.
>
> Trouble is I dont want to alarm the lunch shop or the 1st burger shop
> quizing them about the eggs used and what might be added to the eggs.
> They are nice people and I am sure enough it is not their fault in
> anyway.
>
> But if I cant figure it any other way I may have to front them and ask
> if there is anything they put on the eggs when they make the egg bacon
> burgers.
>
>>
>>I'd have a crack at trying some organic eggs and see if they do
>>the same.
>
> i may, it's just the rash comes in incredibly fast and I find that a
> bit freaky, I am not too keen to force a reaction.
> Ill leave that for the one time I have a good idea of what it is and
> need to confirm it.
Re HJ poisoning you, it may just have been bad luck it occurred after
going to HJ rather than an extra high dose. Allergies build up over
time even with small doses.
RV
>RV wrote:
>
>> "Captain Murphy" wrote:
>>
>>>I'd check the type of eggs each shop uses.
>>>
>>>Maybe the one that doesn't give you the rash is using organic eggs?
>>>Battery farms usually dose the chooks up on chemicals to produce
>>>more eggs, or yellower yolks, etc.
>>
>> That was high on my list but some things dont add up on the egg theory
>> I had.
>> OR
>> What they had on the hot plate before the put the eggs on.
>>
>> I can say this, the burgers I get no reaction from, are a little less
>> tasty than the others.
>> So on that basis I suspect a seasoning salt of some kind.
>
>That could be it. Could also be preservatives in bacon or beef patties
If it was then surely I would get a reaction from the bacon buger with
no egg, but I do not.
Tried one again to be sure, no reaction.
Only when we add the egg.
>
>Could just be coincidence that the ones with eggs in them also use the
>wrong kind (for you) of bacon.
>
>The original problem was at Hungry Jacks - was there an egg in that
>burger?
>
Yes.
>The trouble with trying to diagnose it yourself is that you could have a
>worse reaction next time. So IMO any testing is best done under medical
>supervision.
>
Only if I use the blunt method od trialying substance on myself which
I have no intention of doing until I narrow it down a gfood deal more.
>You could have a prick test done. Talk to your doctor about buying one
>of the bad burgers, and taking it to your doctor who scratches your skin
>and rubs on one ingredient per scratched spot - egg white, egg yolk,
>bacon, sauce, burger - get some of the same salt extra in a paper bag or
>cup (might be easier to get the salt if you ask for $2 worth of chips).
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_test#Diagnosis
Realise that.
But until it is narrowed down by process of elimination, I am not
going to "try them all" just yo see what does it, when I can eliminate
most things by other non toxic means and then when I am fairly certain
of what it is, I can then have a prick test for that.
>
>>>It's weird that some eggs do and some don't. Do supermarket eggs
>>>produce the same reaction? Possible that eggs produced for the
>>>commercial market may be different than for the retail market.
>>
>> Not at all, seems it is only in a cooked burger.
>> As mentioned above it may be eggs but then the odd thing is that the
>> cooked burger I get from the Bridge burger shop with no egg are fine,
>> no reaction.
>
>Perhaps they put different sauce on it when it has an egg in it.
No sauces on the burger shop burgers.
>
>> It is only when they add the egg in 3 of the 4 places.
>>
>> That kind of rules out the hot plate theory since the no egg burgers
>> they cook on it are fine.
>> And it is not eggs alone.
>>
>> Trouble is I dont want to alarm the lunch shop or the 1st burger shop
>> quizing them about the eggs used and what might be added to the eggs.
>> They are nice people and I am sure enough it is not their fault in
>> anyway.
>>
>> But if I cant figure it any other way I may have to front them and ask
>> if there is anything they put on the eggs when they make the egg bacon
>> burgers.
>>
>>>
>>>I'd have a crack at trying some organic eggs and see if they do
>>>the same.
>>
>> i may, it's just the rash comes in incredibly fast and I find that a
>> bit freaky, I am not too keen to force a reaction.
>> Ill leave that for the one time I have a good idea of what it is and
>> need to confirm it.
>
>Re HJ poisoning you, it may just have been bad luck it occurred after
>going to HJ rather than an extra high dose. Allergies build up over
>time even with small doses.
No because I had been eating the egg and bacon muffins from the shop
for a year previously with no effect.
Went to Hungry Poison and got sick, after which the same burgers eaten
before are now toxic to me and ever since that day.
Except for one of the shops where I still get no reaction.
Ill narrow it down more after I talk to the proprietors and see what I
can find out.
So far, the lunch shop guy has told me that no ingredients have
changed in their bacon egg muffin burger since Ive been there.
2 years now.
I did not mention the reaction just asked him if he'd changed anything
in them in the course of conversation.
Just trying to see whet I can discover before I explain why I am
asking.
Lindsay
RV wrote:
>
> Ive also noticed that I am now getting the same reaction to the bacon
> and egg muffins at the lunch shop in Industrial Dve.
Hah! Thats 5 shops I now use for brekkie. I didnt know there was a
food shop in Industrial drive till I read your post last night...
I was in the shop this morn for the first time at 5.50, and had a
E&B (egg and bacon) Muffin. Not too bad at all. The other food looked ok
except for what I presume were a pile of home made Dim Sims that
looked well overcooked????
I'll rate the 5 shops I've frequented (note past tense, coz one of
them I'll never step foot in there again.)
Castle Corner, cnr Lamana St and Govenor Road, Mordialloc.
The guy needs to be taken around the corner, have a fair bit of
shit slapped out of him, returned to his store, and made to eat all
the food he's re-heated from yesterdays left-overs. Only last week,
(Saturday Morning 6.10am) I swallowed my pride and re-entered his
slop shop (after being bitten by the leftovers 6 months previously)
and ordered a ham and cheese sausage(looks like a Kransky) and a
hash brown from his Bay-Marie... How could I tell the food was old?
The sausage was a hot 'n spicy flavour, and was cold to touch,
and the hash brown was like cardboard. I should have gone back and
threw it at the scrawney little shit, but had no time.
Oh, and his E&B muffins have a paper thin slice of bacon that
would struggle to cover a 50c piece. From memory, $4.00 each.
Keep clear of the arsehole. A lot of the locals do.
Rating 1/10
Epsom Cafe, Karella St, Mordialloc.
E&B muffin: $3.50.
Awesome. Has half a packet of bacon in it! Which does tend to make
it a bit greasy, and the bacon isnt highest quality, but what it
lacks in quality, it certainly makes up for quantity!
Two drawbacks to her shop: It doesnt open till around 7.00am,
and she has nothing cooked in the bay-marie till smoko, so more
often than not, you have to wait while it's cooked..
Rating 8.5/10
Dunno The Name Of It: Boundary Rd, Braeside(opposite Jefferson Ford)
Has a wonderful brekkie roll.. a kransky snag, egg, cheese, and bbq
sauce in a roll for $4.50. I struggle to eat it all, and normally
have to give it 20 seconds in the microwave to tickle it up. He does
have a variety of food available early on (5.00am ->) but I cant
stomach a dimmie that early. Does have E&B muffins, but the snag
rolls get me every time..
Rating 7/10
Your store in Industrial Drive, Braeside. First time there today.
Walked in at 5.50am, Bay marie had a small selection of brekkie food
and other (see above) Obviously the E&B Muffins are popular, coz
there were only 3 left, while the E&B sandwiches, ect had a fair
supply available. The bacon in the muffin was a bit thin too.
Cant remember the cost.
Rating 6/10
None of the shops are open on Sundays. That leaves Mcdonalds.
We all know what their food is like, but if you get it cooked
in front of you, the E&B muffins arent too bad. Except when they
forget to put the pissy bit of bacon in it! Like they did to me
2 weeks ago.
Rating 5/10
As others have said, it looks like it's the eggs. Jesus, the steroids
and shit thats shovelled down chickens throats thesedays is
frightening.
Hope you get it sorted, and I'm keen to hear any more news.
Lindsay
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Tom N
> Tom N wrote:
>
>>Re HJ poisoning you, it may just have been bad luck it occurred after
>>going to HJ rather than an extra high dose. Allergies build up over
>>time even with small doses.
>
> No because I had been eating the egg and bacon muffins from the shop
> for a year previously with no effect.
If your allergy developed as a result of a cumulative exposure to
ingredient X, it could be random that it occurred first after eating at HJ.
If instead of going to HJ the day you had the initial rash, you instead
went to another shop and ate food with the same ingredient, you may well
have still developed an allergy.
It is possible you got a megadose of ingredient X at HJ that day; it is
also possible you got a normal dose and it would have happened anyway.
BTW allergies to eggs are very common according to Wikipedia.
RV
You may well be right on the HJ issue.
However wehn I did call back there here is the explantion I got.
"We had a similar complaint for another customer and we have resolved
the issue and assure you it will not occur again"
So what was the issue I asked.
"Some impliments used for cooking had not been cleaned according to
the schedule required"
So the HJ theory is not only my suspicion, it is more the rather lame
and odd explanation and the admission they fucked up something there.
And I was not the only one to suffer from it.
The truth I will not get from them, so I aim to discover what it is
myself.
RV
wrote:
>
>
>RV wrote:
>>
>> Ive also noticed that I am now getting the same reaction to the bacon
>> and egg muffins at the lunch shop in Industrial Dve.
>
>Hah! Thats 5 shops I now use for brekkie. I didnt know there was a
>food shop in Industrial drive till I read your post last night...
>
>I was in the shop this morn for the first time at 5.50, and had a
>E&B (egg and bacon) Muffin. Not too bad at all. The other food looked ok
>except for what I presume were a pile of home made Dim Sims that
>looked well overcooked????
Dimmies are not too bad.
Potato Cakes, really shit, too fat and slimy.
They buy all that stuff, dim sims, chiko rolls and taiter cakes from
some factory.
Likewise chicken sticks are factory made, they dont make them.
But they charge a shit load for them.
The trick there is to ask the guys to burn you some fresh food .
5.50 AM it is pretty fresh.
But if you show up at 7 or 8, the EB muffins etc are on the turn.
They will cook fresh ones but you have to ask.
>
>I'll rate the 5 shops I've frequented (note past tense, coz one of
>them I'll never step foot in there again.)
>
>Castle Corner, cnr Lamana St and Govenor Road, Mordialloc.
>The guy needs to be taken around the corner, have a fair bit of
>shit slapped out of him, returned to his store, and made to eat all
>the food he's re-heated from yesterdays left-overs. Only last week,
>(Saturday Morning 6.10am) I swallowed my pride and re-entered his
>slop shop (after being bitten by the leftovers 6 months previously)
>and ordered a ham and cheese sausage(looks like a Kransky) and a
>hash brown from his Bay-Marie... How could I tell the food was old?
>The sausage was a hot 'n spicy flavour, and was cold to touch,
>and the hash brown was like cardboard. I should have gone back and
>threw it at the scrawney little shit, but had no time.
>Oh, and his E&B muffins have a paper thin slice of bacon that
>would struggle to cover a 50c piece. From memory, $4.00 each.
>Keep clear of the arsehole. A lot of the locals do.
>Rating 1/10
Anywhere but that stinking rat hole.
The food there is about as fresh as the second hand goods in the shop
next door.
They should bulldoze that corner and make a left turn lane out of it
for Trucks to enter Lamana.
On occasions I drive past there and see someone walking toward the
shop I feel like winding down the window and calling out to them.
NO!
DONT DO IT, IT WILL ! MAKE YOU SICK.
>
>
>Epsom Cafe, Karella St, Mordialloc.
>E&B muffin: $3.50.
>Awesome. Has half a packet of bacon in it! Which does tend to make
>it a bit greasy, and the bacon isnt highest quality, but what it
>lacks in quality, it certainly makes up for quantity!
>Two drawbacks to her shop: It doesnt open till around 7.00am,
>and she has nothing cooked in the bay-marie till smoko, so more
>often than not, you have to wait while it's cooked..
>Rating 8.5/10
Better than the Castle (isnt everything)
I used to Rent the factory at the rear of that shop (driveway on the
left) back in the early 80's
It was ok back then for baine marie delights at least..
>
>
>Dunno The Name Of It: Boundary Rd, Braeside(opposite Jefferson Ford)
>Has a wonderful brekkie roll.. a kransky snag, egg, cheese, and bbq
>sauce in a roll for $4.50. I struggle to eat it all, and normally
>have to give it 20 seconds in the microwave to tickle it up. He does
>have a variety of food available early on (5.00am ->) but I cant
>stomach a dimmie that early. Does have E&B muffins, but the snag
>rolls get me every time..
>Rating 7/10
>
Bond St lunch shop
Cnr Bond and Boundary.
Not been in there for many years I although I dont recall why
specifically, I think it was for some good reason I chose not to go
back.
>
>Your store in Industrial Drive, Braeside. First time there today.
>Walked in at 5.50am, Bay marie had a small selection of brekkie food
>and other (see above) Obviously the E&B Muffins are popular, coz
>there were only 3 left, while the E&B sandwiches, ect had a fair
>supply available. The bacon in the muffin was a bit thin too.
>Cant remember the cost.
>Rating 6/10
>
Yes, prices
Be vary carefull to check the price they charge you, one of them cant
add up for shit.
As to the prices in all, they are expensive, but it is handy being
oipen at 5:30AM or so, I get a pint of milk there if Ive run out.
But generally use the Chute St milk bar for milk because it is kept at
correct temp and doesnt stink as it does in other shops they are
cheating on 4deg or less as the milk container recommends.
The servo on boundary and malcom is good some times for milk, other
time the milk stinks.
Thats becuase it is safeway and safeway oftne leave milk out the
stink.
The Safeway at Mentone for example the Pura mill is always days older
and stinks everytime.
Notably you drive past on some days and the pallet of milk is on the
loading dock in the morning sun.
>
>None of the shops are open on Sundays. That leaves Mcdonalds.
>We all know what their food is like, but if you get it cooked
>in front of you, the E&B muffins arent too bad. Except when they
>forget to put the pissy bit of bacon in it! Like they did to me
>2 weeks ago.
>Rating 5/10
>
>As others have said, it looks like it's the eggs. Jesus, the steroids
>and shit thats shovelled down chickens throats thesedays is
>frightening.
>
>Hope you get it sorted, and I'm keen to hear any more news.
>
>Lindsay
My advice Lindsay
Fcuk the lunch shops in the Industrial Estate, go to Mordi.
Very good toasted sandwiches a the White Rooster top of main st.
I get 2 ham cheese tomato there in the mornings.
They ask you if you want butter on top (they add that after the
toasting to make the top slice a bit tastier)
The dirty old european owners there about 10 years ago have gone, good
ridance.
Asian owners now, food is much better and I note they use utensils and
protective cloves properly to prepare the food.
And dont go taking money in the gloved hand like some morons do.
(Such as the lady in Matts meats)
(Yes money that has been jangling around in a pocket next to someones
genitals being taken by the same rubber gloved hand that is used to
grab a pile of sausages, that turned out to be the most digusting
sausages Ive ever eaten and way too much fat oozed from them while
cooking in the barbie.)
All the old pensioners go to White Rooster for tea and brekie.
Burgers and chips from the Burger shop on the same side I mentioned,
About 4 doors nth of the Comm bank on the corner.
Open every day except Tuesday.
(Park in side st near rail crossing and do a U turn to head back saves
getting snagged by the highway.)
Better than the Bridge and all the school kids from Mordi Chelsea High
go there daily for min chips they all que up for.
(But they wont make you wait behind them, just move any bratts aside
and go to the counter.)
Check them out.
I got a barbie to save on lunches some days
(Like Tuesday when the Burger shop is shut)
I get meat and cook it at the factory ala bunnings lunch, snag on
bread.
Get it from the Boundary Rd butcher (just before Lwr Dandy Rd bottle
shop next door)
Ive got big gas botlles for the gas heater so just got an extra hose
and LP reg from Rays Tents for $40
Lindsay
RV wrote:
> >Castle Corner, cnr Lamana St and Govenor Road, Mordialloc.
> >Rating 1/10
>
> Anywhere but that stinking rat hole.
Hahahaha you've been there? :-D
> >Epsom Cafe, Karella St, Mordialloc.
> >E&B muffin: $3.50.
> >Awesome. Has half a packet of bacon in it! Which does tend to make
> >it a bit greasy, and the bacon isnt highest quality, but what it
> >lacks in quality, it certainly makes up for quantity!
> >Two drawbacks to her shop: It doesnt open till around 7.00am,
> >and she has nothing cooked in the bay-marie till smoko, so more
> >often than not, you have to wait while it's cooked..
> >Rating 8.5/10
>
> Better than the Castle (isnt everything)
> I used to Rent the factory at the rear of that shop (driveway on the
> left) back in the early 80's
Small world. I used to work at Craftsman Marine, the fibreglassers
next door on the right 25-30 years ago. Tom and Sula used to run
the food shop then. I still see Tom every now and then. He's into
paper thesedays, has a factory not far from you...
> My advice Lindsay
> Fcuk the lunch shops in the Industrial Estate, go to Mordi.
I dont have the time. I usually eat leftovers from home, or cook up
some lunch on my bbq ( I see you do the same..)
>
> Very good toasted sandwiches a the White Rooster top of main st.
> I get 2 ham cheese tomato there in the mornings.
> They ask you if you want butter on top (they add that after the
> toasting to make the top slice a bit tastier)
>
> The dirty old european owners there about 10 years ago have gone, good
> ridance.
> Asian owners now, food is much better and I note they use utensils and
> protective cloves properly to prepare the food.
> And dont go taking money in the gloved hand like some morons do.
> (Such as the lady in Matts meats)
FARK! As soon as I read that, my mind went straight to her, and
that glove :) She's a nice old stick, so I cant have a shot at her...
> (Yes money that has been jangling around in a pocket next to someones
> genitals being taken by the same rubber gloved hand that is used to
> grab a pile of sausages, that turned out to be the most digusting
> sausages Ive ever eaten and way too much fat oozed from them while
> cooking in the barbie.)
Try the chicken and chive ones.. bugger all fat in 'em. Their plain
snags are shithouse, as you described. I notice their lamb
backstraps are slowly getting cheaper now too, after hitting 24.50 a kg!
> All the old pensioners go to White Rooster for tea and brekie.
Yep. My ex-partner goes to White Rooster for lunch when he wanders down
to my place for something to do..
> Ive got big gas botlles for the gas heater so just got an extra hose
> and LP reg from Rays Tents for $40
I have a mate who works at a big gas Co. My bbq's run off 18kg
bottles at less than 50c a kg :)