[MEDITECH-L] UB04 Printing
Peter J. Campos, Jr.
Hello All!!!
I am new to this list, and I hope that this issue has not been covered already. I have noticed a few posts concerning UB04 printing, and also settings that have worked for other organizations. I have also seen the Meditech Knowledge Base articles on this. I have run into a problem that I believe may be a problem across the spectrum for people who are using HP LaserJet 4250’s to print their UB04’s.
I have been able to configure our 4250’s to print “correctly” using slightly different settings that Meditech recommends. Nevertheless, I ran into a problem that either Meditech is unaware of, or one that should prompt them to update their online documentation. According to our billing specialist, everybody will soon be required to use a 4-digit code for Type Of Bill (the field at the top-right of the UB04L form). Currently, Meditech on our system is configured to use a 3-digit field, and these claims are printing without any problem. However, when we use a 4-digit field for this field, the 4th character gets truncated. After a few hours of messing with settings, along with a call to HP Technical Support, I am thoroughly convinced that this is a limitation on the “standard” HP LaserJet 4250 printers. I was told by HP that in order to use the “edge-to-edge” printing feature, we would have to purchase an additional proprietary compact flash card from HP at the cost of $750 a card (not sure if that was MSRP or true retail). There is no mention in Meditech’s knowledge base that this specific option is REQUIRED by Meditech to get these things to print correctly.
My question to the outside world is this: Are your claims printing correctly using a 4-digit field for Type of Bill? If so, do you have the compact flash card option from HP?
Any input or discussion would be greatly appreciated, and I would be glad to be more specific on my explanations. I couldn’t even find the “Edge-to-Edge Override” option on any of the 4 BRAND NEW printers we just purchased, and the tech from HP said that was not an option on her printer either. If this compact flash option is REQUIRED, it would AT LEAST be nice if that was mentioned in Meditech’s documentation so we could correctly estimate the total cost of moving to an edge-to-edge printer. $3000 is a lot of money to be off by in my opinion…
Peter J. Campos, Jr.
Data Systems Management Analyst
RMCHCS Information Technology Department
Barry Christenson
Unfortunately, this is not a problem with Meditech at all, because if it was, I’m confident they would have a resolution. The edge-to-edge override option is key and this is not available on the HP 4250. My recommendation is to save yourself many more headaches and purchase the HP9050n. A bit more costly, but worth the money. Following the purchase of 4 of these, we no longer have issues with printing the UB04.
Barry Christenson - Sr. Business Analyst
Corporate Information Systems
CRMC - Business Information Systems
1140 'T' Street, Fresno, CA 93721
Office: (559) 459-6418 / Ext. - 56418 / Cell - (559)
250-7974 / Pager - (559) 488-8358 / Fax - (559) 459-6025
bchris...@communitymedical.org
Gary Ring
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To:
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- Subject:
- UB04 On HP 4250 Laserjet
- Date:
- Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:46:50 AM
Well, I have some good news (and hopefully my last post on the topic).
After many tedious and excruiating hours of testing, I think I have found the settings that will work. The keys to getting this to work are:
1. First, finding the CPI settings that will allow ALL characters on the line to print.
2. Then, finding the proper horizontal edge-to-edge setting that aligns the form correctly.
By no means is the form perfect. Unlike Meditech's programming for the UB92, which they did a very good job on and is almost flawless, Meditech's programming of the UB04 has left a lot to be desired; in fact, I would be embarrassed to send this form out to payers with the way that some of the fields are lined-up within the blocks. But it DOES print all of the characters, and for the most part, the characters that don't fit nicely within the blocks are probably not critical data fields.
Here are the settings that I have found work the best:
ELF:
CPI: 10.12 (this is the key; it is the smallest value that allows all characters on the line to print)
Left Margin: 0.20
LPI: 6
Top Margin: 0.095
HP 4250 Printer Quality:
X1: -4
Y: 0
Good luck, everyone.
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From: "Peter J. Campos, Jr." <pca...@rmchcs.org>
Hello All!!!
I am new to this list, and I hope that this issue has not been covered already. I have noticed a few posts concerning UB04 printing, and also settings that have worked for other organizations. I have also seen the Meditech Knowledge Base articles on this. I have run into a problem that I believe may be a problem across the spectrum for people who are using HP LaserJet 4250’s to print their UB04’s.
I have been able to configure our 4250’s to print “correctly” using slightly different settings that Meditech recommends. Nevertheless, I ran into a problem that either Meditech is unaware of, or one that should prompt them to update their online documentation. According to our billing specialist, everybody will soon be required to use a 4-digit code for Type Of Bill (the field at the top-right of the UB04L form). Currently, Meditech on our system is configured to use a 3-digit field, and these claims are printing without any problem. However, when we use a 4-digit field for this field, the 4th character gets truncated. After a few hours of messing with settings, along with a call to HP Technical Support, I am thoroughly convinced that this is a limitation on the “standard” HP LaserJet 4250 printers. I was told by HP that in or der to use the “edge-to-edge” printing feature, we would have to purchase an additional proprietary compact flash card from HP at the cost of $750 a card (not sure if that was MSRP or true retail). There is no mention in Meditech’s knowledge base that this specific option is REQUIRED by Meditech to get these things to print correctly.
WFITZP...@cho.org
We ran into the exact same problem a few months ago -- the fourth digit of the Type of Bill
field was truncating. The solution was in the definition of the UB04 form in the
Electronic Forms section of the Spooling System Dictionary menu in MIS. These settings
worked:
Orientation PORTRAIT Macro Control Program STANDARD
Paper Size LETTER Default Macro Num 1
CPI 10.05 Choose Macro Num Based On
Left Margin 0.20 inches
LPI 6.0
Top Margin 0.095 inches
Text Len 64 lines
Num Copies 1
Will Fitzpatrick
Sr. Systems Analyst
Children's Hospital and Research Center at Oakland
Oakland, California
Phone: 602-595-1751
wfitzp...@cho.org
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Thur Jul 26, 2007 7:22 pm From: CHRIS CRUISE
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Thur Jul 26, 2007 2:33 pm From: "Barry Christenson"
From: "Barry Christenson" <BCHR...@communitymedical.org> To: "'Peter J. Campos, Jr.'"
<pca...@rmchcs.org>, <medit...@mtusers.com> Subj: Re: [MEDITECH-L] UB04 Printing Date:
Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:05:17 -0700 Unfortunately, this is not a problem with Meditech at all,
because if it wa s, I'm confident they would have a resolution. The edge-to-edge override
o ption is key and this is not available on the HP 4250. My recommendation i s to save
yourself many more headaches and purchase the HP9050n. A bit mor e costly, but worth the
money. Following the purchase of 4 of these, we no longer have issues with printing the
UB04. Barry Christenson - Sr. Business Analyst Corporate Information Systems CRMC -
Business Information Systems 1140 'T' Street, Fresno, CA 93721 Office: (559) 459-6418 /
bchris...@communitymedical.org From: meditech-...@mtusers.com
[mailto:meditech-...@mtusers.com ] On Behalf Of Peter J. Campos, Jr. Sent: Thursday,
All!!! I am new to this list, and I hope that this issue has not b een covered already. I
have noticed a few posts concerning UB04 printing, and also settings that have worked for
have run into a problem that I believe may be a problem across the spectrum for people who
4250's to print "correctl y" using slightly different settings that Meditech recommends.
Nevertheles s, I ran into a problem that either Meditech is unaware of, or one that sho uld
prompt them to update their online documentation. According to our bil ling specialist,
everybody will soon be required to use a 4-digit code for Type Of Bill (the field at the
3-digit field, and these claims are printing without any problem. However, when we use a
messi ng with settings, along with a call to HP Technical Support, I am thoroughl y
convinced that this is a limitation on the "standard" HP LaserJet 4250 pr inters. I was
told by HP that in order to use the "edge-to-edge" printing feature, we would have to
purchase an additional proprietary compact flash card from HP at the cost of $750 a card
(not sure if that was MSRP or true retail). There is no mention in Meditech's knowledge
correctly. My question to the outside world is this: Are your claims p rinting correctly
using a 4-digit field for Type of Bill? If so, do you ha ve the compact flash card option
from HP? Any input or discussion would be greatly appreciated, and I would be glad to be
on any of the 4 BRAND NEW printers we just purchased, and the tech from HP said that was
AT LEAST b e nice if that was mentioned in Meditech's documentation so we could correc tly
estimate the total cost of moving to an edge-to-edge printer. $3000 is a lot of money to
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