[MEDITECH-L] IP Addresses

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Paweleck, Julie

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May 31, 2007, 5:25:45 PM5/31/07
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We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20. Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ. Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP. How is everyone else operating? Static IP or DHCP? If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do to make Meditech work? We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading to 5.6.1 this year.

Julie Paweleck
OakBend Medical Center
1705 Jackson
Richmond, TX 77469
281-341-2877
jpaw...@obmc.org
www.oakbendmedcenter.org

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Lawrence, Mitchell

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:36:32 PM6/1/07
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1.      Ensure that you have your network DNS entries correct for each client on your network (DHCP can create these entries automatically if configured correctly.)

2.      Ensure the DNS information in EXT.OPS is correct and pointing to your network DNS servers
3.      Remove the static IP assignments from your EXT.OPS entries (the most time consuming of your process. I recommend using a scripting tool if you have a lot of client entries)

4.      Test, test, and more test. Expect glitches.
5.      Eventually you will iron out all the gotchas and from then on you are good to go. Just create a new client entry if you want it managed. DHCP and DNS will take care of the rest.

Example:

Client: LAB01

Old Static IP: 172.169.0.13

New DHCP IP (dynamically assigned): 10.10.0.28

DNS should resolve LAB01 to 10.10.0.28. Meditech will query your networks DNS for an IP address for LAB01.

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Gearry Judkins

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:38:42 PM6/1/07
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I am sure that Meditech has a standard of practice for this, but here is
what we do:

1) Leave the IP Address field blank.
2) Make sure the Node Name field is the same as the Windows system/netbios
name and it works fine.

My understanding is that Meditech runs a NetBIOS name query for the
connecting IP. If the returned name is in the device dictionary than those
are the settings that are used. If neither the IP nor the node name are
configured, you get the UNKNOWN TELNET CLIENT screen.

Gearry Judkins
Information Systems
Franklin Community Health Network

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> From: Paweleck, Julie [mailto:jpaw...@obmc.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:26 PM
> To: Meditech L (E-mail)
> Subject: IP Addresses
>
> We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering
> this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20.
> Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ.
> Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP. How is everyone else
> operating? Static IP or DHCP? If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do
> to make Meditech work? We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading
> to 5.6.1 this year.
>
> Julie Paweleck
> OakBend Medical Center
> 1705 Jackson
> Richmond, TX 77469
> 281-341-2877
> jpaw...@obmc.org
> www.oakbendmedcenter.org

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Cicchinelli, Sal

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:39:19 PM6/1/07
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DHCP is the way to go

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From: Paweleck, Julie [mailto:medit...@mtusers.com] On Behalf Of Paweleck, Julie

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We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20. Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ.  Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP.  How is everyone else operating?  Static IP or DHCP?  If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do to make Meditech work?  We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading to 5.6.1 this year.

Julie Paweleck

OakBend Medical Center

1705 Jackson

Richmond, TX  77469

281-341-2877

jpaw...@obmc.org

www.oakbendmedcenter.org

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Joe George

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:52:50 PM6/1/07
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Julie,
        If your network administrator is NEVER going to setup V-LAN's then it shouldn't be a problem.  Once a device is connected via DHCP it will show up in the remote host I/P addresses (from main menu #10, #15).  You would then have to go under your normal option #20 to add pc for TELNET EZ.  When you key in the pc name it's going to automatically pick up the DHCP address for you.  WARNING(Your network administrator would have to "TURN-OFF" re-assigning DCHP after so many days or it will re-assign a different DHCP address). That would become a nightmare.

 
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      From:   medit...@mtusers.com [mailto:medit...@mtusers.com On Behalf Of Paweleck, Julie
      Sent:   Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:26 PM
      To:     Meditech L (E-mail)
      Subject:        IP Addresses

      We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20. Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ.  Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP.  How is everyone else operating?  Static IP or DHCP?  If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do to make Meditech work?  We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading to 5.6.1 this year.

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    Jason Ritchie

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    Jun 1, 2007, 3:19:08 PM6/1/07
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    Julie
    What version of the OS are you on?  Really as long as you are above 7 you'll be fine.  I believe for 5.6 the recommended is at least 7.3. 

    We are currently on 7.1 and we just had a change made so that our workstations looked at the computer first to get the name of it.  Otherwise it will request the name from the list in Meditech and if that fails it will hit your dhcp server.  Really it has always worked but occasionally a pc pick up the wrong name and as you know many functions are based off the pc and its location.  Anyhow since our "tweak" to force Meditech to query the pc directly we have had no issues.  

    When you setup the computers in ops (option 20), if there is an address you will want to remove it. Unless it still is a static pc.   Other than this you'll setup the nameserver under option 10 manage Open Systems  then  7. Enter/Edit Network Info.   I am guessing this is probably already setup even though you're currently using static address's.  

    Once you switch to DHCP your network person can still Reserve address's for printers and other equipment but the equipment as well as Meditech still sees it a DHCP setup.  He/she will want to do this for printers specifically since you manually map a printer to a name in ops.    I think we really only have a few things here that still have a static address and that's mainly c-arms, mri and ct as well as most of our servers.

    Any other questions please feel free to call

    Jason Ritchie
    Indiana Orthopaedic Hospital
    System/PACS Administrator
    317-802-2432
    jrit...@orthoindy.com  

     



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    Sent:   Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:26 PM

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    Subject:        IP Addresses

    We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20. Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ.  Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP.  How is everyone else operating?  Static IP or DHCP?  If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do to make Meditech work?  We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading to 5.6.1 this year.

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    McGaw, Douglas

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    Jun 3, 2007, 12:01:35 AM6/3/07
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    Yes, use DHCP. The thing you want to do is insure that the Meditech name for each PC matches its Windows name. Leave blank the entry for the IP address (Meditech will match the name up and bring in the address).

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    Covin, Charles

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    Jun 4, 2007, 8:57:35 AM6/4/07
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    DHCP

    Charles Covin
    Vice President \ CIO
    Eastern Connecticut Health Network, Inc. (ECHN)
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    860-533-2909 (o)
     
     


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    Subject:        IP Addresses

    We are currently using static IP addresses for our computers and entering this information in Meditech under EXT.OPS, 1.System Information, 20. Enter/Edit Termservers, PCs, RemoteHosts with the Model? being TELNET EZ.  Our new network administrator wants to go to DHCP.  How is everyone else operating?  Static IP or DHCP?  If we switch to DHCP what do we have to do to make Meditech work?  We are currently MAGIC 5.4 but will be upgrading to 5.6.1 this year.

    Julie Paweleck
    OakBend Medical Center
    1705 Jackson
    Richmond, TX  77469
    281-341-2877
    jpaw...@obmc.org
    www.oakbendmedcenter.org

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    Gevaert, Gary

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    Jun 4, 2007, 3:58:54 PM6/4/07
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    Here is the Meditech page that discusses this; you need a meditech customer login to get to it.

     

    http://www.meditech.com/prsystems/Pages/SYSmcSCdhcpexplained.htm

     

    Joseph, we have lots of VLAN’s and have no issues. As long as you make sure that your devices on the VLAN can see the DHCP server (and Meditech) your ok. So, in our case, we have a number of devices that need both the specialized service on their VLAN and Meditech so they are on multiple VLAN’s.

     

    Also, in our DHCP/DNS setup, we do not assign static addresses to PC’s (only to Printers, Lab interface devices, networking devices) so it doesn’t matter if the PC’s lease is up and it asks for another IP. Meditech works fine with NETBIOS name resolution.

     

    Following is our IP range breakdown policy for any devices on the various subnets we have around the region.

    IP Range Breakdown (x.x.x.1-255):

    ·1-10 Servers

    ·11-99, starting at 11 Printers

    ·99-11, starting at 99 down Other Devices & Diagnostic Equipment

    ·100-239 PC's Dynamic Pool

    ·240-254 Networking Devices

     

    Joseph, on your warning, I’m not following. When you use netbios resolution, the IP address does not matter. Once the PC tries to connect to MAGIC, Magic will then ask the PC its name and once the PC replies with the name magic looks it up on its termserver/PC table name. When it finds it then the PC connects.

     

     

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    Bill Palmer

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    Jun 5, 2007, 10:26:16 AM6/5/07
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    We have been using DHCP for several years for workstations. We still
    use static IP's for printers though in my opinion it would be better to
    use reserved DHCP addresses for printers. Below is a link to the
    Meditech web site that explains how to set up for DHCP in a Meditech
    environment.

    http://www.meditech.com/prsystems/Pages/SYSmcSCdhcpexplained.htm


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    Mid-Columbia Medical Center
    The Dalles, OR 97058
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    Gearry Judkins

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    Jun 8, 2007, 3:51:15 PM6/8/07
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    Bill Palmer wrote:
    > We have been using DHCP for several years for workstations. We still
    > use static IP's for printers though in my opinion it would be better to
    > use reserved DHCP addresses for printers.
    I prefer a hybrid approach which includes reserving the IP address in
    the DHCP database, and then manually configuring the printer with the
    address statically. I have found that many devices like printers and
    UPSs are more reliable if manually configured. Doing it this way means
    you have only one place to look to check IP assignment. Now if only
    this ideal were reality...

    Gearry Judkins
    Information Systems
    Franklin Community Health Network

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