[MEDITECH-L] OE order rules for LABs
Pervine, Teresa
I have a couple of order rule questions. First, with all of the Meditech rules that have been built at various facilities, is there anywhere to find them all compiled neatly in one place? It would be a big help to those of us that are not very experienced in rule building. All I could find on the Meditech website was the few standard content ones.
Now for the problem at hand, I have adapted a Meditech rule for LAB to preventing ordering an adult test when a pediatric version is available based on age:
"Patient is less that 18 years. Order Pediatric version."^X,
IF{[f pt age lt](18,0,0) [f lord err msg](X);
[f lord ok]};
I have attached it to the tests and it seems to work fine. Now I need the same thing for OE, only in there I need two separate rules. One to do the above, and one to attach to the pediatric tests to prevent someone in OE from ordering the pediatric version on an adult. Any help would be appreciated. My attempt in OE caused both rules to invoke on the same pediatric test order even though only one was attached to the test I was ordering. I'm still trying to figure out what happened there.
Teresa Pervine MT (ASCP)
Clinical Support Specialist
Information Systems
Murray Calloway County Hospital
270-762-1160
tper...@murrayhospital.org
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Goodwin, Marti
We are a C/C 5.64 site and have some order rules built for POM. The
following tells them to not order this test on patients greater than 30
days.
IF{[f pt age gt]("0","0","30") [ord pom]("CMPPOM",1),"OK";1};
We have this rule POM enabled and Evaluate at POM ORD. Under the button
area we have Erase Order.
I hope this helps, let me know if you need more information.
Marti Goodwin, MT (ASCP)
LIS Analyst
Norman Regional Health System
Phone: (405) 307-1020
Pager: (405) 327-0463
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Paul Goedicke
Keeping in mind OE rules may or may not follow the same format as LIS rule keywords, from what you describe, the OE rule chokes on your first criteria and chokes - resulting in an error regardless of input. This is why it seems both rules are checking when only one is attached. To prevent that confusion in the future, work on only one rule at a time and don't start another until the first is either working or removed.
Now, on to your rule issue;
"Patient is less than 18 years. Order Pediatric version."^X,
IF{[f pt cur age]<18 [f lord ok];
[f lord err msg](X)};
It is only my individual preference, but I prefer performing the check for acceptable criteria before invoking the error.
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Jackson County Memorial Hospital
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Russo, Judy
help you, they are written in NPR:
IF{[f pt cur age]>5,
"This procedure can only be ordered for patients under 5 years of
age."^X,
[f ord msg](X)};
[f pt cur age]^AGE,
"Patient must be Less than 2 years of age"^MSG,
IF{(AGE#1="M")!(AGE#2="M")!(AGE#1="D")!(AGE#2="D") [f ord ok];
[f ord err msg](MSG)};
Judy Russo, RT(R)(CV)
RIS/PACS Information Analyst
Halifax Health
Daytona Beach, FL
judy....@halifax.org <mailto:judy....@halifax.org>
Ganesh Seshadri
list what a patient was given and when?
Segment pha.rx.file ?TR[tr] seems to be the highest level and looks
generally straightforward. Both pha.rx.transactions and pha.rx.admin
seem to be set up to provide details for the first segment; yet one is
set up as a child, and the latter is by itself even though it subscripts
are set up like a child. The transactions segment seems to have all the
transactions including those that are credits and debits that cancel
out.
Do you typically loop through pha.rx.admin as though it were a child of
pha.rx.file by selecting indexed on the mri.urn and also selecting on
the account number, or are there other considerations?
Ganesh Seshadri
Analyst, Indiana Regional Medical Center
(724) 357-7012
Pervine, Teresa
We are C/S 5.55. I tried the first first rule and it seemed to work fine, except it didn't stop the order from filing. Also, if you could download a list of all of your rules and send the file to me I would be thrilled beyond words. I am particularly interested in LAB, OE (and POM?), but will take anything you are willing to share. I am so ignorant on the subject, I don't even know if POM and OE rules are the same. And what about AOM? Can OE rules be used there? Thanks.
Teresa Pervine MT (ASCP)
Clinical Support Specialist
Information Systems
Murray Calloway County Hospital
270-762-1160
tper...@murrayhospital.org
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Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] OE order rules for LABs
We are C/S 554, and I have lots of OE rules. Here are a couple that may help you, they are written in NPR:
IF{[f pt cur age]>5,
"This procedure can only be ordered for patients under 5 years of age."^X,
[f ord msg](X)};
[f pt cur age]^AGE,
"Patient must be Less than 2 years of age"^MSG,
IF{(AGE#1="M")!(AGE#2="M")!(AGE#1="D")!(AGE#2="D") [f ord ok];
[f ord err msg](MSG)};
Judy Russo, RT(R)(CV)
RIS/PACS Information Analyst
Halifax Health
Daytona Beach, FL
<mailto:judy....@halifax.org> judy....@halifax.org
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