[MT-L] Meditech and Single Sign-on

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Pidgeon, Mark

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Feb 1, 2017, 9:58:36 AM2/1/17
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Hello.
 
We’re a MAGIC 5.66 hospital and currently don’t have Single Sign-on (SSO) setup between Meditech and our Active Directory (AD). We do use fingerprint readers by Digital Persona Altus, which simplifies logging in for our users, but is still not truly SSO. I know Meditech has MLogin & Meditech Security Officer (MSO), along with a conversion process, and I was wondering if anyone has gone through this process and might have any feedback. Was it painful to do the conversion? Did you do a mass conversion or did you do it by department? Is the authentication process using MSO quick, or does it take several seconds to actually get into Meditech? How do you handle users that log into kiosks/public PCs? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Andrews Chris

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Feb 1, 2017, 12:04:19 PM2/1/17
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We are Magic/CS 5.67 and looking at potentially implementing SSO as well, would love to hear the same feedback!

 

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Feb 1, 2017, 8:10:30 PM2/1/17
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We are a Magic 5.67 hospital.   We are currently in the process of implementing Meditech MSO.    The bulk of the conversions have been done as we completed all the nursing units and a number of other departments.

Our implementation process has been mostly 1 department at a time,  however, all the nursing areas were done together.

The change did result in a higher number of calls to the Help Desk for awhile.   But that has since settled down.


Once using the MSO authentication going into Meditech Live or Test is but a second or 2.   Very quick.


Public PCs is a little bit of a pain.   Users have to remember to enter their mnemonic and then hit ENTER and enter their password and then ENTER again.  
Using the mouse or TAB key will not authenticate you.  It will actually bring you to the Meditech log on screen,  which will continue to work until after your old Meditech password has expired.   

Meditech has in Development a proposal to allow the TAB key and mouse clicks to work.    But that is going no where fast.  This is by far the worst issue. 

When converting a user the TAB key and mouse clicks causes the same issues.  Otherwise,  converting is very quick and easy to do.

Let me know if you have any other questions.


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Gevaert,Gary

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Feb 2, 2017, 5:24:23 PM2/2/17
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We attempted to go with Meditech MSO and abandoned the project after testing it as it became too painful/confusing for our end users. We ended up purchasing a SSO solution which will help us bridge the conversion gap and also provide us with other features like badge login, obscure screen, dynamic printer assigns, etc.

 

Some of our pain points were:

1.     Public PC’s, we had to set them up in a separate domain for Meditech to recognize them as ‘public pc’s’ and therefore present the appropriate login screen (multiple login screens in fact as it will prompt you for both the AD one and the typical Meditech on a public PC as it doesn’t know whether the user sitting down is already converted or not)

2.     Public PC’s – users logging on had to follow an extremely precise process :

a.     They cannot use Tab

b.     They have to remember to ‘escape’ past the first login screen if they weren’t converted yet to using AD

c.     They have to enter in the correct domain (we have a multi domain environment); it did not default the domain to the correct one like windows does

d.     If they did not follow the order of user/pass/domain when filling in the login screen then the screen would simply go back to asking for your login info again, no alert/error

3.     Multi-role accounts – For every role a person had they needed to have a unique windows AD account. Wow! We have a lot of multirole users who have a single windows AD Account and multiple Meditech accounts. (just one of the issues around this is – which account gets the email address attached to it?)

4.     Conversion process – depending on what kind of user you were there were different conversion steps. It got to the point where I had a 4 page document (with lots of pictures) and users had to find their correct section which was a no-go.

5.     There is a conversion list that users go on when you enable the system (i.e. live), you take them off the list when you want them to get the conversion confirmation screen and then get converted (which takes a second). Sounds great but unfortunately that quickly became a problem because:

a.     The list is not sorted alphabetical or any manner that we could see so if you wanted to convert by department you had to scroll through the list to find the users one at a time. (and when you have 5000 users it can be a real pain)

b.     Second, you cannot add anyone new to the list so our plan to convert by department would not have worked as all new hires (of which we have dozens per week) would have been live right away thereby short-circuiting our rollout plan

 

That’s just off the top of my head…

 

Once we had it working in test (for our core group) it worked great, it was nice and fast but it was decided that all the other issues made it a no-go and we looked at purchasing an app.

 

Hope this helps

 

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