Revival of Medical Education Group- SAIMS
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Dr Kuldeep
Sep 16, 2009, 2:10:54 PM9/16/09
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Hello Everyone!
It has been long that we have posted any message on this forum. We
would like to have more closer association between medical
educationist living apart even living abroad.
In last 6 months much changes have occured.
We are now having 4th Batch of faculty participants.
On 15th September 2009, we had plenary session on theory assessment
methods. Following participants enthusiastically brought out their
creative talents-
1. SPMP by Dr Ranjan Preet Kaur, Dr Arvind Kinger, Dr Richa Nigam
2. MCQ by Dr Raj Wavre
3. SAQ by Dr Rajesh Chaturvedi.
Resource persons gave their most critical and valuable comments. Dr R
K Chandorkar gave his seasoned comments on SPMP made out of real
situation in a given setting. He appreciated the report presented by
raporteur Dr Aparna Pandey and put forth his idea of compiling all
reports with appropriate editing.
Prof V H Bhavsar brought out the clinical decision making tool out of
SPMP. He also stressed on the framing of MCQ with distractor
sufficient enough to bring out objective of teaching learning
objective.
Dr Pravir pointed out the utility of Short answer question with
impressive use of words in the stem so that students do not get
confused.
It was also the last session for Dr Bhavsar as he is leaving the
Institute. In his concluding remarks he appreciated the work of unit
which united us all and paved way for continuing learning to all. He
thanked Director of Medical Education Prof (Mrs) S Bose for bringing
all under one roof and pointed out that he is lucky enough to joined
MBBS as a Student of Mrs Bose and who remained her student even now in
his retirement.
With a vote of thanks, session was adjourned.
Dr Kuldeep
NB: I have come across this piece of information:
1.
Updated on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 15:42 IST Tags:Health Ministry,
PMO, MCI DCINew Delhi: The Prime Minister's Office has put its foot
down on the proposal of scrapping the medical and dental education
regulators of the country, saying there is a need for wider
consultations before reaching any conclusion. The Health Ministry had
proposed to scrap the Medical Council of India (MCI) and Dental
Council of India (DCI), citing alleged corruption in these regulatory
bodies. The proposal was sent to the Prime Minister's Office for
listing it before the Cabinet so that a necessary amendment could be
moved in the next session of Parliament. The PMO, however, rejected
the proposal, saying there was no surety that the new body replacing
MCI and DCI would not develop shortcomings as of the present
regulators, an official said. It has asked the ministry to consult
more experts on the issue and devise a plan to cleanse the existing
system rather than replacing it, sources in the ministry said. The
Health Minister has been receiving repeated complaints about the
working of the medical and dental education regulators and widespread
corruption in it. A task force of the minister had suggested to scrap
various regulators of the medical education, including medical Council
of India, Dental Council of India, Pharmacy Council and the Nursing
Council, sources said. Bureau Report (Source: http://www.zeenews.com/news563115.html)
2.There will a workshop on Artificial ventilation in Pediatric
Anesthesia and Pediatrics at SAIMS from 18th September 2009 to 23rd
Sept 2009.
Please feel free to share any other information which may be useful to
our Medical Educationist
It has been long that we have posted any message on this forum. We
would like to have more closer association between medical
educationist living apart even living abroad.
In last 6 months much changes have occured.
We are now having 4th Batch of faculty participants.
On 15th September 2009, we had plenary session on theory assessment
methods. Following participants enthusiastically brought out their
creative talents-
1. SPMP by Dr Ranjan Preet Kaur, Dr Arvind Kinger, Dr Richa Nigam
2. MCQ by Dr Raj Wavre
3. SAQ by Dr Rajesh Chaturvedi.
Resource persons gave their most critical and valuable comments. Dr R
K Chandorkar gave his seasoned comments on SPMP made out of real
situation in a given setting. He appreciated the report presented by
raporteur Dr Aparna Pandey and put forth his idea of compiling all
reports with appropriate editing.
Prof V H Bhavsar brought out the clinical decision making tool out of
SPMP. He also stressed on the framing of MCQ with distractor
sufficient enough to bring out objective of teaching learning
objective.
Dr Pravir pointed out the utility of Short answer question with
impressive use of words in the stem so that students do not get
confused.
It was also the last session for Dr Bhavsar as he is leaving the
Institute. In his concluding remarks he appreciated the work of unit
which united us all and paved way for continuing learning to all. He
thanked Director of Medical Education Prof (Mrs) S Bose for bringing
all under one roof and pointed out that he is lucky enough to joined
MBBS as a Student of Mrs Bose and who remained her student even now in
his retirement.
With a vote of thanks, session was adjourned.
Dr Kuldeep
NB: I have come across this piece of information:
1.
Updated on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 15:42 IST Tags:Health Ministry,
PMO, MCI DCINew Delhi: The Prime Minister's Office has put its foot
down on the proposal of scrapping the medical and dental education
regulators of the country, saying there is a need for wider
consultations before reaching any conclusion. The Health Ministry had
proposed to scrap the Medical Council of India (MCI) and Dental
Council of India (DCI), citing alleged corruption in these regulatory
bodies. The proposal was sent to the Prime Minister's Office for
listing it before the Cabinet so that a necessary amendment could be
moved in the next session of Parliament. The PMO, however, rejected
the proposal, saying there was no surety that the new body replacing
MCI and DCI would not develop shortcomings as of the present
regulators, an official said. It has asked the ministry to consult
more experts on the issue and devise a plan to cleanse the existing
system rather than replacing it, sources in the ministry said. The
Health Minister has been receiving repeated complaints about the
working of the medical and dental education regulators and widespread
corruption in it. A task force of the minister had suggested to scrap
various regulators of the medical education, including medical Council
of India, Dental Council of India, Pharmacy Council and the Nursing
Council, sources said. Bureau Report (Source: http://www.zeenews.com/news563115.html)
2.There will a workshop on Artificial ventilation in Pediatric
Anesthesia and Pediatrics at SAIMS from 18th September 2009 to 23rd
Sept 2009.
Please feel free to share any other information which may be useful to
our Medical Educationist
dharmendra mehta
Sep 18, 2009, 1:26:46 AM9/18/09
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dear dr. kuldeep singh,
as per discussion with dr. mrs.Bose ,director med.education,
she was asking me to use chalkand boardmethod or OHP. when we aregoing into the newera of information & technologicaluse for teaching & SAIMS doesnot want us to use stationary at SAIMS costthen whatis the fun discussing allbetter methods ,forcing teachers to use new modality.
we are having two norms in SAIMS
1) asking for highfi things
2) SAIMS donot wishto spend a single paise on consultants , donot want to give good salary but Dr. Mrs. Bose wants us to use old methods .
this should be strongly pointed out in meetings, other wise discontinue the med.edu. teaching.
dymehta
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:10:54 -0700
> Subject: Revival of Medical Education Group- SAIMS
> From: kul...@hotmail.com
> To: mededu...@googlegroups.com
as per discussion with dr. mrs.Bose ,director med.education,
she was asking me to use chalkand boardmethod or OHP. when we aregoing into the newera of information & technologicaluse for teaching & SAIMS doesnot want us to use stationary at SAIMS costthen whatis the fun discussing allbetter methods ,forcing teachers to use new modality.
we are having two norms in SAIMS
1) asking for highfi things
2) SAIMS donot wishto spend a single paise on consultants , donot want to give good salary but Dr. Mrs. Bose wants us to use old methods .
this should be strongly pointed out in meetings, other wise discontinue the med.edu. teaching.
dymehta
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:10:54 -0700
> Subject: Revival of Medical Education Group- SAIMS
> From: kul...@hotmail.com
> To: mededu...@googlegroups.com
bhavsar vinay
Sep 19, 2009, 7:59:10 AM9/19/09
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Dear Dr Dharmesh
Your frustation I can understand. You may feel a deviation from it but read the following paragraphs in attachement
Dr V H Bhavsar
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dharmendra mehta
Sep 19, 2009, 12:26:41 PM9/19/09
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dear Dr. Bhavsar Sir,
iam very much thankful to you sir for such a nice message.
As you also know that in saims there are always many different norms which change with time. no one can improve status of working.
dymehta
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:59:10 -0700
From: vinayb...@yahoo.com
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Dear Dr Dharmesh
Your frustation I can understand. You may feel a deviation from it but read the following paragraphs in attachement
Dr V H Bhavsar
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bhavsar vinay
Sep 21, 2009, 9:43:32 AM9/21/09
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| Best thing is keep cool. Do as much as possible that satisfies us. Now even I am away from Indore but I hope we will be in touch for the better cause. Wish you good luck |
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bhavsar vinay
Oct 3, 2009, 11:12:38 AM10/3/09
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| Dear Dr Dharmesh Mehta Nandan Nilekani's experience was sent just to understand the problems of administration and the effect faced by the worker. I feel administrative problems are there with each institute. So may be with SAIMS. Additionally SAIMs has problem of 'childhood-growth'. The Child of 5 years is growing fast, in multiple directions. So problem of administration are likely to be there! But let us not be frustrated ( Nandan Nilekar is waiting for the few months to present his stuff). Your comment about discontinuation of med edu training is out of frustration. We definitely cannot underscore the value of Med Edu technology. Those who are becoming aware of the importance of the med edu technology will be comfortable in planning every thing related to the teaching and evaluation in the broader sense. Let us view the Med Edu Technology in proper perspective. Let us not entangle ourselves favoring this or that teaching aids. Dr Dharmesh, I hope you will agree that going to extreme end of thinking to discontinue is definitely inappropriate. Hope you will take Med Edu Technology in appropriate sense and avoid your bias regarding discontinuing training programme. I hope you will think to make the training more effective. Our 'togetherness is out of Med Edu Training group'. Let us make our group more active and more strong; so no more 'discontinuation thinking'! |
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