[Midnight Commander] #4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?

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May 20, 2022, 6:09:09 AM5/20/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Type: defect
Status: new | Priority: major
Milestone: 4.8.29 | Component: mc-key-bindings
Version: 4.8.28 | Keywords:
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I'm quite upset as to why MC 4.8.28 has changed the Sort order shortcut in
the menu from S to O.

Is there any justification for that? Could we get the old shortcut back?
There's nothing else which uses the S character in the F9 menu.

"S" has been used for for over two decades, now it doesn't work.

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May 20, 2022, 11:18:57 AM5/20/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:

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Changes (by andrew_b):

* status: new => closed
* resolution: => wontfix
* milestone: 4.8.29 =>


Comment:

https://midnight-commander.org/ticket/4284

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc/2022-April/msg00001.html

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May 20, 2022, 11:22:08 AM5/20/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:

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Comment (by birdie):

There's no SFTP in Midnight Commander 4.8.28 in Fedora 36.

SFTP is not such a popular protocol to change the **20 year old
defaults**.

Whatever, looks like you don't care.

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May 20, 2022, 11:25:16 AM5/20/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: reopened

Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
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Changes (by birdie):

* status: closed => reopened
* resolution: wontfix =>


Comment:

In the "SFTP link..." menu item there are at least seven more characters
to use.

Let's check:

* K is not used anywhere else
* N is not used anywhere else

Yeah, let's break what people are used to. Have you become the Gnome
project followers?

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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: reopened
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
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Comment (by birdie):

Ignore, the wrong ticket.

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Jun 3, 2022, 7:47:02 AM6/3/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: closed

Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:

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Changes (by andrew_b):

* status: reopened => closed
* resolution: => wontfix


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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner:
Type: defect | Status: reopened

Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: mc-key-bindings | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: | Keywords:

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Changes (by birdie):

* status: closed => reopened
* resolution: wontfix =>


Comment:

Replying to [comment:5 andrew_b]:

Is it possible to use N or K for SFTP please?

I've used the S shortcut for sorting for 20 years. I totally don't like
how someone has decided to break decades old shortcuts.

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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner: andrew_b
Type: defect | Status: accepted
Priority: major | Milestone: 4.8.29
Component: mc-core | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: | Keywords:

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Changes (by andrew_b):

* owner: => andrew_b
* status: reopened => accepted
* component: mc-key-bindings => mc-core
* milestone: => 4.8.29


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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner: andrew_b
Type: defect | Status: testing
Priority: major | Milestone: 4.8.29
Component: mc-core | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Branch state: no branch | Votes for changeset: committed-master
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Changes (by andrew_b):

* status: accepted => testing
* votes: => committed-master
* resolution: => fixed


Comment:

[cd47b158acd3f0136df81a3bf69d6317461b6909]

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Jul 11, 2022, 12:55:02 PM7/11/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner: andrew_b
Type: defect | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: 4.8.29
Component: mc-core | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
Blocked By: | Blocking:

Branch state: no branch | Votes for changeset: committed-master
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Changes (by andrew_b):

* status: testing => closed


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Jul 11, 2022, 1:58:49 PM7/11/22
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#4373: Sort order menu shortcut changed from S to O, why?
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Reporter: birdie | Owner: andrew_b
Type: defect | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: 4.8.29
Component: mc-core | Version: 4.8.28
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Branch state: no branch | Votes for changeset: committed-master
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Comment (by birdie):

A big warm thank you, Andrew!

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