Hello everyone. I know there's some divide in the language learning community about Duolingo, with some people believing they'll become fluent after repeating "Ich esse Brot" 5 minutes a day and others saying its completely useless and boring drilling. I've been studying German for more than a year now, mainly using Duolingo, and I think I'm capable of shedding some light on the situation.
For the past 13 months I've been using Duolingo and Anki every day. I started with a 2000-words 'A1+A2' deck which then I merged with a 4k 'B1' deck. After finishing those I merged them again with a 12k B2 deck! At this moment I already have 7k 'mature' (words that I've mastered) and 3k 'young' words (words that I'm still learning). I'm yet to see the remaining 8k words.
I've used the web version of Duolingo on 'hard-mode'. That means you have to write the entire sentence down instead of just the missing word, and you can't use any word box. Duolingo used to make you to complete 60 lessons per skill, but later reduced the lesson number. I found it was harder to learn that way so I chose to keep doing 60 lessons for each skill (at least for most of them). That was hard because I had to keep track of how many lessons I'd completed so far. Most of the days I did between 4 to 16 lessons.
All in all. I would say Duolingo is a tremendous asset if you want to learn a language. However, you have to use it properly, and it still wont make you fluent! Do the right number of lessons, because you are never going to learn grammar heavy skills if you only study those skills 10 times. It's very important that you use it alongside a vocab learning tool like Anki or Memrise, and that you immerse yourself in the language (after several months of studying, otherwise it would be pointless). Don't neglect your writing skills, because you can understand a language without being able to speak it (as a Spanish speaker, I can understand 90% of written Portuguese, but I don't know how to say anything).
Duolingo has some downsides too. I think the biggest one is that it doesn't force you to conjugate in different tenses most of the verbs you learn, and that it doesn't teach you prepositional adverbs (damit, darüber, davon, etc). If you want to, you should practice that by yourself.
A/B testing is, has, and probably always will be integral to how Duolingo develops its product. The new learning path is a massive change, so it makes sense to roll it out gradually and measure performance.
While the guys at Duolingo (understandably) want to move everyone over to the new learning path, long-term learners should be given the option to toggle between the two, especially those who are several units into a course on the old tree.
This one relates more so to the gaming side of Duolingo than the learning side. Learners using the new learning path seem to be at a slight disadvantage when it comes to earning XP, making it harder for them to compete in the leagues.
The same goes for progress. Like any company, Duolingo constantly needs to improve and innovate, or risk being overtaken and left behind. Over the years, Duolingo has undergone a number of mostly aesthetic changes, with features coming and going along the way.
I am on 1646 days streak in Spanish and I have reached the level of proficiency B2. For some reason, I still have the old version on my mobile phone and I can compare both versions. For intermediate and advanced users, the new version is just a waste of time. I need to jump from one topic to another based on my needs to improve some language skills or to prepare for my conversation classes. There are days when I need just an easy topic, which is impossible to choose with the new version.
The new version is just a Candy Crush where you have to practice endlessly something you already know. The freedom of learning has gone.
My conclusion is that unfortunately after my paid Super Duo expires I am going to say: Adios Duolingo.
Hi everyone. I am going to rant. I am a super Duolingo user, with nearly 500 days and I had close to 400 crowns. Crowns were one of my main way of monitoring my progress.
The tree gave me the choice to hop to other subjects and slowly work my way through less favourable subjects or lessons that proved to be more challenging. Now there is no choice which greatly lowers my motivation. My yearly subscription is soon coming to an end and I am seriously thinking about LEAVING Duolingo for goods.
This upFor months now I have been managing a personal lexicon of vocabulary learnt from Duolingo. Without the ability to choose lessons, continuing to do this is nigh impossible. This update is detrimental to my learning ability, and may mean the wasting of months upon months of effort.
Before, there were so many learning tools, and each learner could adjust the methodology, to their preferred style of learning. Now we are being forced to get in line to follow what looks like an almost never-ending, rote methodology down a long, monotonous path. Yuk! I certainly see no reason to pay for being a part of Super Duolingo. I have signed up for a 3-month trial subscription to Babbel to explore that option. The people at Babbel and other language resources must be overjoyed with these Duolingo changes!
My main question is, does Duolingo ever ask its userbase at large about these kinds of major overhauls before implementing them? Or do they decide to just roll it out gradually and wait for people to stop complaining?
If Duolingo MUST have this new version to obtain some proficiency goals they think they have to meet, fine. But they should also provide the OLD version to those of us who learn better in the 3D learning environment of the old version and not be forced to endure the 2D path the new version serves up. How do we make that happen?
The new format and lack of separation between learning and stories is not to my liking .
For someone who is not very computer savvy, it is very confusing and hard to navigate.
Why fix it if it is not broken?
Sadly, I will not go on learning with Duolingo as this new format is not digestible to me.
As an adult learner intent on reviving very rusty French, Duolingo was already not optimal but easily available. It lacked grammar, sufficient useful daily vocabulary, gender/noun affiliation, and sound quality mixed with uncorrected but reported errors. If its owners had improved the platform, I would have paid. The scatterbrained new format is not an improvement and is designed to convert users to either paying or allowing advertising. It reflects the acquisition.
but all in all, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Duolingo. I had a goal of learning some German for when we travel to Europe in a few months. I did not know any German at all, and my last language course was French in high school 30 years ago. I have learned SO much, and now feel comfortable branching out to other videos, newspapers, etc. The format was perfect for me. Fun with lots of repetition.
The way I see it, all subscribers interested in the long-term health of Duolingo have a responsibility to cancel their subscriptions (and auto-renewals) as soon as possible. Losing money is the only message there is any chance the leaders of this company will listen to.
In the end I gave up on revising with Duolingo and dusted off one of my old German grammar books and within seconds found exactly what I want. And for my lessons on ordering food, I just went to Youtube and found dozens of great videos that far surpass anything Duolingo provides.
The new version is sooooooo boring. I liked to have the freedom to choose the topics to study and the division into theme based units was more useful for me as a learner. Its hard to find any motivation.
Actually the oldest version which also contained grammar units was the best.
Im afraid the new Duolingo is a tedious flop.
I absolutely hate this new path. I can barely stand to do one five minute lesson when I used to spend hours on it. I feel defrauded by Duolingo because I paid for super and then they switched to something I would never spend money on. The new path is trash and I will not be renewing my subscription.
I loved the old tree. As a language teacher, I liked the fact that I could pick and choose the language sections I wanted to focus on. The new learning path takes all the intelligence out of the learning system and you are stuck in a blind alley with no idea what the next group of lessons will focus on. This makes it really difficult to match Duolingo to my language classes. As Duolingo is primarily useful for vocabulary building, rather than as a full language course, this is an issue.
I had subscribed to Duolingo for the past two years. I dropped my subscription for 2023 because the Scots Gaelic course is now pretty much useless. Because of the unusual spelling and grammar, mildly structured grammar and vocabulary tips are essential. The previous iteration of the course was much better. It looks (and sounds) to me like the previous course was badly cut and pasted into the new format, and much was left out. I suspect that most people studying minor languages will have the same complaint.
Have you ever been working on a lesson and, when almost finished, you ran out of hearts so you could complete it? But, of course, you can buy more hearts with gems. No gems? Then you can pay to get SuperDuolingo and get unlimited hearts!
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