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UNITE! Info #106en: 7/7 More rattler "NE" writhings
[Posted: 30.07.99]

[Continued from part 6/7]


RATTLER WRITHINGS AND SOME STRAIGHT FACTS [ctd.]

XX. SOMETHING NEW - AS TRIED BY PURPORTED "NON-GREENS",
AT ANY RATE: OF COURSE "THE PARTY OF LYNDON LAROUCHE,
USA" [ctd.]


But anyway, here are some excerpts from what I wrote in my Info
#27en: 'Who fights "green" fascism?', of 02.02.1997, discussing
among other things the question of the LaRouche party with
Jacques Beaudoin of the "Action Socialiste", Canada:


[QUOTE:]

(Jacques:)
>Please Malecki, be honest: supporting the so-called "good
>points" of the fascist LaRouche has nothing to do with Maoism,
>nor with Marxism.
......

(Jacques:)
>And to Rolf: how can you explain that a counter-revolutionary
>organization as this one can have some good points? Maoism
>is intransigent against all the reactionaries. And this
>includes LaRouche's sect.

I did in fact recently write (to the M-G list on 26.01) i.a.:

(Rolf:)
>Lyndon LaRouche, the leader of that small bourgeois group in
>the USA which in my opinion has certain good points in that
>it's rather squarely against the "green" warfare but which
>of course is counter-revolutionary too, [...........]

Why did I write that the group led by LaRouche has some good
points? And btw, he's not a fascist. Why certain people want to
put such a stamp on his - of course bourgeois - political cur-
rent I shall try to explain too.
........

OPPOSITION [to the "green" warfare] BY
BOURGEOIS OR NON-MARXIST FORCES

Now why do I say that the - undoubtedly bourgeois, undoubtedly
also counter-revolutionary - relatively small LaRouche group in
the USA does have some positive points, as seen from the stand-
point of the proletariat? Because this group actually does com-
bat the "green" tendency within society, and in fact rather ra-
dically too. It has made and is making several sharp attacks
on, and revealing exposures of, that tendency, on a number of
its different fronts or from different aspects of it.

This it's doing of course in accordance with its own bourgeois
interests, in the interests of a certain part of the bourgeoisie
which by no means wants that proletarian revolution that you and
I, Jacques, both are saying that we consider to be absolutely
necessary, which absolutely wants the dictatorship of the bour-
geoisie to be upheld and which is not only against the "green"
forces but also against the (genuine) Marxists, but which - in
contradiction to the "mainstream" bourgeoisie today - still
does want industrial, technological and scientific development
to continue in practically all respects and not to be strangled.
And in this, its interests on certain points do coincide with
some vital interests of the workers and the oppressed peoples.

It should be added that the LaRouche group is not the only
bourgeois group that takes up such a standpoint on industry,
technology and science. There are a few other non-Marxist cri-
tics of the "green" destructive tendency - some people attacking
various mendacious "green" campaigns on the Net, for instance,
who have nothing to do with LaRouche's particular ideology at
all but who do want people in general to get some technical and
scientific facts straight.
.......

HOW - IF IN ANY WAY - MIGHT PROLETARIAN FORCES
ENTER INTO AN ALLIANCE ON CERTAIN POINTS WITH THE
LAROUCHE GROUP OR OTHER BOURGEOIS FORCES?

In the first place, I'd like to point out that I don't think
that there's much basis for any closer concrete co-operation
between the Marxists, on the one hand, and "the LaRouche peop-
le", on the other. This is because of the respective parts'
quite opposing standpoints concerning the proletarian revolution
and because today, the contradiction between the proletariat and
the bourgeoisie is so acute.

And it's a basic tenet of Marxism of course that those forces
who want to represent the interests of the proletariat, however
small and seemingly insignificant they are, must *never coa-
lesce with* bourgeois forces but must always uphold the princip-
le of the necessarily *self-dependent* organising of the prole-
tariat, this also in such cases where they perhaps enter into
alliances with non-proletarian forces on certain points. They
mustn't let such forces decide for them.
.........

With that Info I also brought as an appendix the important so-
called Heidelberg Appeal, signed by a considerable number of
scientists and originally published precisely in connection with
the start of the Rio summit, whose "conclusions" it indirectly
sharply criticizes. I shall include this Appeal in the present
Info too, as part 5/5 of it.

It so happens that it was a representative of the Schiller In-
stitute in Stockholm, which is one of the organizations of the
LaRouche group, who in 1995 finally provided me with the full
text of that document, after I had been looking for it in vain
in the "mainstream" media and magazines for some three years.
Though the political views of that representative and those
which I have long had of course are different and in vital res-
pects opposed to each other, this was one small fact contribu-
ting to my later writing that "his" group does have some posi-
tive points.

I also was recommended by him some reading which I indeed have
found to be quite informative, despite my disagreement of course
with the political line that this material also contains and
despite the obvious necessity of checking on the information in
it, as on that in all other material: For instance the magazine
"21st Century (Science and Technology)" published in Washington,
USA, (I'm subscribing) and the really quite revealing book, con-
cerning certain aspects of the "environmentalist" "movement",
written by R. A. Maduro and R. Schauerhammer in 1992: "The
Holes in the Ozone Scare".

Together with this representative of the Schiller Institute, and
with some other individual members of the (non-party-political)
association in Sweden Environmental Friends For Nuclear Power
(MFK) too, I earlier this month sent some motions to the coming
annual meeting of this association.

What I've mentioned immediately above here constitutes the con-
crete extent of what one might call an "alliance" of mine with
the LaRouche group or with representatives of it.

It's also a notable fact, among other things, that its publica-
tions now and then contain articles by some scientific experts
who obviously are not adherents of Lyndon LaRouche's theories on
society etc but who simply are having difficulties in making
their findings known otherwise, because of their being "uncom-
fortable" to the "green" Inquisition.

[END OF QUOTE]


[RATTLER WRITHING:]
"This occurrence, by the way, was used by other demagogues to
blame us for such an approach, although we never had anything to
do with it."


What "occurrence"? Are you referring to your own last paragraph?
I'm bringing it again:

([RATTLER WRITHING:]
"In addition it has to be mentioned that Rolf Martens who was in
connection with the circles abroad around the PCP, for some time
simultaneously sought the connection to the obscure LaRouche-
party of the US, as if one could have normal relations with such
people, and we don't think this connection to have happened by
chance.")

So, *my* purported "seeking the connection to" (a "seeking"
which there never was, if you mean something else than just a
possible united-front punctual alliance) the LaRouche party
"was used by" some "other" demagogues (other than yourselves?)
to "blame *you*" for such an "approach". Bad luck, snakes, but
hardly my "fault".

And are you saying that you "never had anything to do with"
such an approach as seeking a possible punctual alliance also
with openly-bourgeois forces, for instance for combating the
arch-reactionary "green" measures of the main and very worst
part of the bourgeoisie?

That would be wrong on principle too. This "argument" of yours
in fact shows that you're *really not so interested in* comba-
ting the extremely dangerous "green" warfare of today at all,
in practice.

XXI. "SOLIDARIC" RATTLESNAKE RETURNS, NOW WITH
A HEARTFELT WARNING - BUT ARE SUCH ALLOWED?


[RATTLER WRITHING:]
"We have to say, therefore, that people who enlist the support
by Rolf Martens should think over these points. Of course, we
understand that such a solidarity movement has to rely on as
many forces as possible, has to enlist technical support etc. We
fully understand this, but...."


This I like too! Now *you* are warning people in the solidarity
movement for the DR Congo against *me*!

Only, haven't you then already forgotten what you wrote in the
beginning of your posting:

([RATTLER WRITHING:]
"In this way Rolf Martens brings questions into the solidarity
movement which belong to the argument between other parties.")

Meaning, that there should be "no" such warnings within such
movements. As I said, I hold there *should* be. Anyway, now
hopefully, everybody in that movement mentioned is "warned"
against the two of us (your "group" and me). We shall have to
see who'll scare others the most, or the least, in the future.


[RATTLER WRITHING:]
"....we also feel compelled, after the libels which this man is
spreading in the context of the Congo solidarity movement, to
give a clear statement, as this kind of libels cannot remain
unrefuted."


There's a great "risk" that what I'm saying about you *will*
remain unrefuted, "despite" your above, which doesn't exactly
help you much, or what do you think, snakes?

And concerning "giving clear statements", don't you think some
of those who really are interested in supporting the struggle
of the Congolese people might be interested in hearing one from
you - now after two years of silence on your part and after
those so varying earlier statements of yours - concerning the
similar case of that struggle in Peru which has been one of the
themes recently?


[RATTLER END LINES:]

"Editorial Staff of Neue Einheit
07/24/1999

Translation from the original German text
Internet statement 99/21"

APPENDIX:

PUBLICATIONS BY THE EARLIER, GENUINELY MARXIST,
KPD/ML(NEUE EINHEIT) REPRODUCED VIA THE NET IN
GERMAN OR IN ENGLISH (SWEDISH) TRANSLATION BY ME:


In Infos #1de, #1en (later also in #40en)
and #1se, (all:) 23.12.1995:

"EINE GRUNDLEGENDE FESTSTELLUNG UNSERER (October 1978)
PARTEI VOM OKTOBER 1978"

"A BASIC STATEMENT BY OUR PARTY
OF OCTOBER 1978"

"ETT GRUNDLÄGGANDE KONSTATERANDE AV VÅRT
PARTI AV OKTOBER 1978"


In Info #7de, 07.04.1996:

"ÜBER DIE HERANGEHENSWEISE UNSERER PARTEI (21.03.1977)
IN FRAGEN DER KERNKRAFTWERKE"

"EINIGE PUNKTE ZUM SOGENANNTEN 'KAMPF (21.03.1977)
GEGEN KERNKRAFTWERKE'"


In #12en, 08.07.1996:

"Why Our Party Had to Reject the Inter-
ference by the International Liaison
Department and Other Chinese Organs
- Aspects - "

(Original:
"Warum unsere Partei die Einmischung von (1979)
seiten der Abteilung für internationale
Verbindungen und anderer chinesischen
Organe ablehnen musste - Aspekte - ")


In #22en (later also in #40en), 03.11.1996:

"Congratulatory telegram from NE chairman
Klaus Sender to CPC chairman Hua Guofeng,
30.10.1976"

(Telegramm des Vorsitzenden Klaus Sender (November 1976)
an den Vorsitzenden Hua Guo-feng am
30.10.1976)


In #40en, 13.07.1997:

"Some Comments by Our Party on the De-
cision by the Third Plenary Meeting of
the Tenth Central Committee of the
Communist Party of China concerning
Teng Hsiao-ping in July '77"

(Original:
"Einige Stellungnahmen unserer Partei...") (August 1977)


In #41en, 18.07.1997:

"The International Situation, Europe and
the Position of the Marxist-Leninist
Parties"

(Original:
"Die internationale Lage, Europa und die (09.11.1973)
Stellung der marxistisch-leninistischen
Parteien")


In #52se, 14.09.1997:

"Om kidnappningen av Lorenz"

(Original:
"Zur Entführung von Lorenz") (01.03.1975)


In #70en, 16.06.1998:

"A Threat by the Social-Imperialists
in the Bay of Luebeck"

(Original:
"Eine Drohung der Sozialimperialisten (24.04.1975)
in der Lübecker Bucht")
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