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Bernd Harries

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Hi Folks,

No mail today, does this mean Saarbruecken is completely dead now?

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Joerg Dorchain

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Bernd Harries writes:
> Hi Folks,
>
> No mail today, does this mean Saarbruecken is completely dead now?

Hmpf, On Wednesday the usually do some network stuff. (The annual power
failure that hit the meeting took place last Wednesday at Saarbruecken.)

They did three things: changing the sendmail version, changing the mail
hnadling machine, and chaning the list processor.
All in all, it looks like there are too strong spamming-filters
installed, which don´t allow relaying for lists.linux-m68k.org.
Perhaps the person in charge reads this, too. (Hint: cc:-line)
Maybe the list will work again before the weekend.

Joerg


Jes Sorensen

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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>>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Dorchain <dorc...@wirbel.com> writes:

Joerg> Bernd Harries writes:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> No mail today, does this mean Saarbruecken is completely dead now?

Joerg> Hmpf, On Wednesday the usually do some network stuff. (The
Joerg> annual power failure that hit the meeting took place last
Joerg> Wednesday at Saarbruecken.)

Power cut or just reconfiguration?

I still can't figure out why some people still believe it's a good
idea to switch off computers once per year .....

Jes


Joerg Dorchain

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Jes Sorensen writes:
> >>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Dorchain <dorc...@wirbel.com> writes:
>
> Power cut or just reconfiguration?

This time it was a power cut instead of reconfiguration. The user effect
in both cases is similiar: no network. But that is stuff of the computing
center, not for the people maintaining our listserver.


>
> I still can't figure out why some people still believe it's a good
> idea to switch off computers once per year .....

Well, my suspicion is that they clean up the transformators. And some
people refuse to get closer than 1m to a 15KV transformator while powered
on. I only wonder how the vacuum cleaners work without power...

Joerg


Jes Sorensen

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>>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Dorchain <dorc...@wirbel.com> writes:

Joerg> Jes Sorensen writes:
>> >>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Dorchain <dorc...@wirbel.com> writes:
>>
>> Power cut or just reconfiguration?

Joerg> This time it was a power cut instead of reconfiguration. The
Joerg> user effect in both cases is similiar: no network. But that is
Joerg> stuff of the computing center, not for the people maintaining
Joerg> our listserver.

Any idea what a power cut tend to do when you got 12TB+ of SCSI disk
spinning?

Joerg> Well, my suspicion is that they clean up the
Joerg> transformators. And some people refuse to get closer than 1m to
Joerg> a 15KV transformator while powered on. I only wonder how the
Joerg> vacuum cleaners work without power...

We've only had 3-4 cuts since they said they would solve the problems
once and for all earlier this year ..... ;-(

Jes


Joerg Dorchain

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>

> Any idea what a power cut tend to do when you got 12TB+ of SCSI disk
> spinning?

Well, usually 12TB of disks spin down and ~9TB of disks spin up again.
At the Max-Planck-Institute where I did my diploma thesis, they made a
backup the day before, and bought some piles of spare disks to replace
the failing ones. All in all about 1000DM only hardware cost. Not to
count hours for finding the bad disk in the rack...

You simply don´t cut power when you have a running system. Don´t give
Murphy a unnecessary chance.


Joerg

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Michael Schmitz

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Hi,

>I'm the one "in charge" (which doesn't necessarily involve payment of
>any kind) of 134.96.82.13, a quite old piece of junk (an old Sparc-2).
>We are currently migrating all services (including mail) to another
>host, an Ultrasparc-II. During this process, port 25 of 134.96.82.13
>has been redirected to 134.96.54.54, which doesn't know it is also
>called lists.linux-m68k.org. Well, it does now. Please tell me if
>there are still problems with the list.

Thanks for the explanation, and of course the fix. We'll see how it works out.

Test, test ...

Michael


Christian Blum

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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Folks,

I'm the one "in charge" (which doesn't necessarily involve payment of
any kind) of 134.96.82.13, a quite old piece of junk (an old Sparc-2).
We are currently migrating all services (including mail) to another
host, an Ultrasparc-II. During this process, port 25 of 134.96.82.13
has been redirected to 134.96.54.54, which doesn't know it is also
called lists.linux-m68k.org. Well, it does now. Please tell me if
there are still problems with the list.

Whoever is hostm...@linux-m68k.org, please change
lists.linux-m68k.org to 134.96.54.54.

Sorry for any trouble I might have caused; be assured that it isn't
trivial to close Pandorra's box. :-/


Chris


Joerg Dorchain wrote:
> Bernd Harries writes:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > No mail today, does this mean Saarbruecken is completely dead now?
>

Arno Griffioen

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> Whoever is hostm...@linux-m68k.org, please change
> lists.linux-m68k.org to 134.96.54.54.

Done..

Secondaries should follow in a few hours..

Bye Arno.

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Michael Schmitz

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Hi,

>I'm the one "in charge" (which doesn't necessarily involve payment of
>any kind) of 134.96.82.13, a quite old piece of junk (an old Sparc-2).
>We are currently migrating all services (including mail) to another
>host, an Ultrasparc-II. During this process, port 25 of 134.96.82.13
>has been redirected to 134.96.54.54, which doesn't know it is also
>called lists.linux-m68k.org. Well, it does now. Please tell me if
>there are still problems with the list.

If I may abuse your patience one more time: I've tried to unsubscribe/
resubscribe etc. (not for fun, but because our lab finally gets rid of the old
VMS installation I've used for mail). Neither majo...@phil.uni-sb.de nor
majo...@lists.linux-m68k.org work (and the linux-m68k-owner is broken too).

134.96.54.54 resolves to pf4.phil.uni-sb.de, but no majordomo there. What
address should be used for subscribing etc. ???

I'll try to fake my old e-mail address for the time being for linux-m68k
purpose, and set reply-to to the new address. The account here will shut down
late October, that leaves some time for me to sort things out.

Michael


Joerg Dorchain

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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> 134.96.54.54 resolves to pf4.phil.uni-sb.de, but no majordomo there. What

> address should be used for subscribing etc. ???

It is runnung slist now. Try linux-m68...@lists.linux-m68k.org and
put some 'help' in the subject and the body.


Joerg


Bernd Harries

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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Hi Christian,

The majordomo user seems to be missing on your new machine.

No more subscribes and unsubscribes are possible.


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Michael Schmitz

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Bernd Harries wrote:
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> Hi Christian,
>
> The majordomo user seems to be missing on your new machine.
>
> No more subscribes and unsubscribes are possible.

Use linux-m68k-request. I'm not sure it worked for me :-)

Michael


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