I have a question. (Obviously) but me and my brother have been having a debate about who would win in a fight; Kaladin Stormblessed, or Eragon Shadeslayer. Obviously Eragon is stronger in magic, but Kadin is a Windrunner... sort of. So anyway, who do you think would win?
Even though Stormlight is orders of magnitude better than Eragon, Kaladin doesn't really have much of a chance here. Neither of them will be able to affect the other directly with magic, since Eragon has wards that will prevent it and Kaladin's Stormlight passively blocks magic. Eragon's TP is also nullified by Syl, who can defend Kaladin in the Cognitive Realm. Unfortunately, Eragon is a bit faster and far stronger than Kaladin, and his sword will be able to block a shardblade because of its heavily invested nature. Kaladin might be more experienced, but not by very much, and Eragon is unrealistically good with his sword.
The problem here is the discrepancy in magical function. As surgebinding is a hard magic, and Eragon's magic is not, these must be judged in two different ways. If they met in a single place, the universe would have to account for what Eragon could do, making a set of rules for it so that space-time does not fold in on itself and destroy everything.
The problem is, the Death Words operate by causing minute physical damage, which Stormlight would likely heal pretty easily. I'd say that Kaladin has the advantage, simply because he is better a combat and is far more maneuverable in the air. Plus, he has Sylblade, which would slice through Saphira very quickly. Eragon can't hurt Syl, but Kaladin can hurt- even kill- Saphira.
Oh yeah in oathbringer [OB] Shallan takes a crossbow shot in the head, and walks it off. The death words probably couldn't kill Kaladin fast enough. Do u think that Kaladin's Blade could cut through Eragon's wards?
For the death words, I'm not so sure. From what I remember, they work by doing something really low energy that still does fatal damage, like severing nerves, or opening arteries. I'm not sure if that would also kill a surgebinder with stormlight however, as IIRC the only reliable way to kill them is to bash their brain in. Jasnah was able to survive a knife through the heart. I have a feeling that simply severing nerves and arteries would just be healed back immediately. Because of the small amount of damage done it might even cost a lot less stormlight to heal than sticking a sword in somebody or throwing fireballs at them.
I would have to go with Eragon, simply because he knows several magic words that cause near instant death. Kaladin could win, assuming he could get close, since a shardblade would beat Eragon's sword but since the ancient language has a such a long range I can't imagine him being able to close the distance quickly enough.
Eragon has possibly one of the most vague magic systems I know of. However, if Kaladin had limitless Stormlight and Eragon couldn't just blink him out of existence, Kaladin would win due to that o-so special healing factor.
I'm guessing that Eragon would attempt to break the mind of Kaladin, but would, in this scenario, be blocked by Sylphrena. Unless Eragon figured out a VERY clever way to use magic, I'm guessing that the only thing he could do is stop Kaladin from flying by controlling the winds. Now, I'm going to compare a living shard blade to about the equivalent to the Dautherdaut. That means that it can injure dragons. Saphira would attempt to protect Eragon, but be foiled since she can not fly as she normally could. Kaladin, taking advantage of this deficit, make quick work of Saphira. (Sadly) He then dispatches a largely defenseless Eragon, who is still reeling from the death of his Dragon.
Counter-intuitively, that would end up inhibiting Saphira more than it would hinder Kaladin. Windrunning is actually manipulation of gravity, so Eragon controlling the winds would be little different to Kal's fight with Szeth in the Highstorm. The only thing wind can use to delay(not beat) gravity is aerodynamics, and the human form is astoundingly lacking in that department.
Now that anything directly offensive is rendered useless by Stormlight regeneration, the question is whether Kaladin can get close enough for the kill (as in melee combat it's one Shardblade hit and it's over). The question boils down to who's magic is gonna run out first, really. Eragon can try to hold Kaladin down, but he can try to overpower the spell by sheer Stormlight-assisted force (trying to move or just using Basic Lashing).
Given how stupidly massive are magic resources of Paolini mages (seriously, they are supposed to cast spells using up the energy their bodies can generate and that's not really much)... Eragon's gonna win. Unless we're talking Shardplate which could probably interfere with other magic...
We can also take into consideration that investiture cancels out investiture. It is harder to Push on metalminds than it is to push on other metallic object and a Shardblade can not cut through Shardplates. I feel like it would be a safe arguement to say that Kaladin's stormlight could either decrease the effects of Eragon's magic or nullify them all together. On the same arguement, not like it would change the outcome of the battle, brisingr is able to cut through magic so I feel like I would be able to block KALadin Blade. Either way, I feel like it is a win for Kal. He is way more maneuverable tha Saphira, Syl gives him 360 vision, and he can match Eragon's physique, and surpasses him with skill
Yes Eragon would win. At the end of the series he could mind control people or turn off their magic by uttering a word. The series was fun, but Eragon basically became God at the end, even without his dinosaur. They taught him about magically induced nuclear explosions and radiation shielding for crying out loud; if he was feeling merciful he'd send Kaladin home with leukemia...
Dies to Shardblade like any chasmfiend. Fire breath can be mitigated by Stormlight, flight removed via Lashings (of either variety, although the one-two punch of Partial Lashing to disorientate, then Full Lashing to stick Saphira to the ground would be highly effective in this regard). The eldunari might be an issue, as it is basically a gemheart with Saphira's innate Investiture inside, but that's one point of difficulty inside a giant shell of scaly meat.
Eragon would stomp Kaladin. He could just break into his mind and keep on death-wording him until he runs out of Stormlight. And Kaladin might not even be able to hurt Eragon, depending on how his magic shields work against Shardblades.
Are you wondering what happened to the Shade from last time? His name was Durza, and he was the final boss of the first book. Eragon killed him during the final big battle between the Urgals (orcs) and the Varden (edgy rebels). This victory was only possible because Arya and Saphira showed up at the last minute to distract Durza, so Eragon could get in his hit. Kudos to Paolini for not making the protagonist too badass too soon.
So thought Eragon as he stepped over a twisted and hacked Urgal, listening to the keening of women who removed loved ones from the blood-muddied ground of Farthen Dr. Behind him Saphira delicately skirted the corpse, her glittering blue scales the only color in the gloom that filled the hollow mountain.
Since waking to find his wound healed by Angela, Eragon had tried three times to assist in the recovery effort. On each occasion he had been racked by terrible pains that seemed to explode from his spine. The healers gave him various potions to drink. Arya and Angela said he was perfectly sound. Nevertheless, he hurt. Nor could Saphira help, only share his pain as it rebounded across their mental link.
Fighting Durza and the dark spirits that controlled him had transformed Eragon; although for better or for worse he was still unsure. He felt fragile, as if a sudden shock would shatter his body and reconstructed consciousness.
And now he had come to the site of the combat, driven by a morbid desire to see its aftermath. Upon arriving, he found nothing but the uncomfortable presence of death and decay, not the glory that heroic songs had led him to expect.
His wound twinged as Saphira lifted her azure wings, then drove them down and jumped forward, gaining speed and altitude each second. Below them, Arya ran toward the tunnel, nearly keeping apace with Saphira. Orik trailed her with several men, while Jrmundur sprinted back toward the barracks.
Unwilling to speak, Eragon gazed at the rest of the bodies. He would have given anything to be elsewhere. Saphira nosed one of the Urgals and said, This should not have happened. It is an evil doing, and all the worse for coming when we should be safe and victorious.
Arya! Eragon hesitated, torn between his desire for action and his loathing to put her in danger. Still, if any one person in the Varden could handle the Urgals, it was she. With a groan, he explained what they had found.
I am sad I grew up faster than his writing skills did, because I think I would have liked to finish the series. By the time the later books were coming out, they were inundated with too much weak writing to enjoy.
Good writers avoid grandiose pose. Tolkien and few others could do it right but most just sound pretentious when doing so. If you really want to write something epic, it might be a good idea to read some big World War I or World War II military novels and learn how they right epic in more modern English.
I always try to read these fantasy-name-apostrophies like glottal stops and it never works out! It is very frustrating. In my ming, spelling should indicate pronounciation, not be annoying for no reason.
@No.: A writing site is a place for civil critique and discussion. This is NOT the place to post ableist insults. And, may I ask you what is so bad about not writing slurs in your work? There are plenty of alternative words that are not insulting. Also, disabled people deserve so much better than to be subjected to these things when we already face plenty of discrimination in real life. Words like these represent exclusion and hate, and there is no excuse to use them. Furthermore, words like the one you just used above are horrible, and come from a history of mistreatment. They reflect badly on your maturity, and you as an author. If you write stories, you have a responsibility to educate yourself. Otherwise, you should not write one.
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