Procedure qualification through AWS

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praba karan

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Mar 2, 2026, 4:26:27 AMMar 2
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Dear experts,

For procedure qualification as per ASME SEC IX- "Multiple PQRs may support one WPS",

Likewise can we follow the same practice in AWS also?  Because which is not mentioned directly on the code that we can use multiple PQRs to support one WPS.(And I'm not using prequalified WPS)


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Prabaharan

Sajeersayed Ali

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Mar 2, 2026, 4:39:06 AMMar 2
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5.2.2 Combination of WPSs. A combination of qualified and prequalified WPSs may be used without qualification
of the combination, provided the limitation of essential variables applicable to each process is observed.


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james gerald

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Mar 2, 2026, 5:36:44 AMMar 2
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I suppose you can support only for welding positions.

Unlike ASME Sec.IX code for process vessels & piping where the Load is uniform and the materials are restricted by code it allows for combination.

But AWS D 1.1, you are subjected to Static, Dynamic & cyclic loading as well and as such there is no statement like ASME Sec.IX like combining WPS/PQR. Moreover you prepare WPS for 1 Pressure vessel and it is easy to control in the shop but whereas AWS D1.1 say for example offshore platforms, you have many varied components like Beam, Plates, girders, tubulars etc.. and it is difficult to control. Only for need based WPS to be used for AWS D1.1.

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james gerald

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Mar 2, 2026, 5:41:58 AMMar 2
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Just to add, Pressure vessels is designed mostly for Internal pressure & external pressure.

section 5.2.2 is for combination of qualified & prequalified WPS and not pertaining PQR's.

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J.Gerald Jayakumar

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sridhar cn

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Mar 2, 2026, 12:03:49 PMMar 2
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AWS D1.1 does not restrict the number of PQRs supporting a WPS. Clause 6 requires only that essential variables be validated by procedure 

qualification testing. Where a single PQR does not cover all required variables of a production WPS, multiple PQRs may be combined to provide 

full technical support. Therefore, using multiple PQRs to support one WPS is fully acceptable and code-compliant. 

Sridhar.


Md Usman Ghani

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Mar 17, 2026, 6:09:21 AM (2 days ago) Mar 17
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Just for clarification
Can any one share, WPS, for ss410 to SS316,

sridhar cn

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Mar 17, 2026, 11:35:33 AM (2 days ago) Mar 17
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Giving below are the hints for WPS (both ISO / AWS) for joining SS 410 (martensite) to SS 316 (austenitic)

This should be supported by a PQR qualification. 

WPS: Dissimilar Joint: SS 410 vs. SS 316 

1. General Information:

Process: GTAW (Root) + SMAW / GMAW (Fill & Cap); Type: Dissimilar stainless steel welding

2. Base Materials:

SS 410 (UNS S41000) – 410 Martensite SS to  SS 316 – Austenitic SS; ASME sec. IX P no 6 (410) to Pno 8 (316)

3. Joint Details:

Joint Type: Butt joint;  Thickness Range (Qualified): xx mm – xx mm (based on the PQR)

Root Gap: 2–3 mm; Bevel Angle: 60° included; Backing: Optional (SS backing or GTAW root) 

4. Filler Metal:

Primary Choice: ER309L / E309L (for welding);  Alternative (for critical service): ERNiCr-3 (Inconel 82)

GTAW: ER 309L / ER NiCr-3; SMAW: E 309L / ENiCrFe-3; GMAW: ER309L

(309L acts as a buffer to handle dilution & prevent cracking; Ni-base reduces risk of martensite cracking)

5. Welding Parameters: GTAW (root) Polarity: DCEN ; Shielding gas: Argon (99.99%) Flow rate: 10–15 L/min

SMAW (fill/cap).Polarity: DCEP; GMAW (Optional) Mode: Spray / Pulse; Gas: Ar + 2–5% CO₂ or Ar + 2% O₂ 

6.Preheat & Inter-pass Temperature: Preheat  200-300 degC (for SS 410 to avoid cracking); Inter-pass 250 deg.C. 

7. PWHT (for SS 410): SR at 650-700 deg C; Holding time- 1hr / 25 mm thick; Cooling- Controlled furnace cooling. 

8. Special Technique: Buttering recommended on SS 410 side with ER309L to void cracking; Stringer beads preferred (no weaving)

9. Inspection & Testing: 100% VT+ PT + RT / UT – As per the requirement;  Hardness check (important on 410 side & HAZ) 

Trust above details will help you to prepare your WPS & PQR.

 

Sridhar.

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