CHEVRON CRACK

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Ali Asghari

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May 23, 2009, 12:07:54 AM5/23/09
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IN FABRICATION SPECIFICATION OF MY PROJECT SAID THAT:FOR THICKNESS ABOVE 25mm IN SAW,WELD SHALL BE EXAMINED FOR DETECTION OF CHEVRON CRACK BY ULTRASONIC.
ACCORDING TO HEAT INPUT IN SAW IS HIGHER THAN SMAW,WHY IT SAID ONLY IN SAW?

Shank Vagal

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May 23, 2009, 5:14:53 AM5/23/09
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My dear Ali,
1. Heat Input is not the highest in SAW but in more SMAW.
2. On Cheveron Cracking, please see a brief from some of my notes.

Chevron cracking: This type of cracking is unfamiliar in process piping and is mainly confined to thick-wall multipass welds deposited in carbon and carbon-manganese steels and is associated with fabrication of pressure-retaining facilities and heavy structural fabrications. The cracking mechanism is attributed to mishandled / sloppily stored submerged arc flux, which has, therefore, been allowed to absorb moisture. During welding, this moisture dissociates into hydrogen and oxygen. The oxygen may form oxides within the weld, or recombine and evaporate. Hydrogen gets trapped within the weld metal as it cools down and, if a sufficient quantity of hydrogen is available, cracking is likely to occur. The cracks take the shape of a chevron or a V, hence the name chevron cracking.

 Hydrogen or stress are known to trigger these crack (HIC, SCC).

The marks are formed in brittle failures in plates due to the way the fast moving crack front propagates along the plate as illustrated in the fig. 
The "chevron" marks point to the crack origin.
The exact thickness limits for this behaviour are connected with the fracture toughness of the steel, temperature, etc., depending on the
specific steel and its condition.
However, a common NDE may not be able to readily detect or determine a steel’s / process’s susceptibility to these cracks. To find if a steel is sensitive to this, you must use fracture toughness
 measurement methods like CTOD, etc.
Note : Please see attachment for the fig, I can not post it here.
Best regards,
Shashank Vagal


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Ali Asghari

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May 23, 2009, 7:33:29 AM5/23/09
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dear ahank vagal
thank you for response.
but because H.I of SAW IS MORE than SMAW ,therefore the time is existed for diffusion out H from base and weld metal.as a result the propability of occurance for chevron crack is lower than smaw.
regard advance


From: Shank Vagal <nach...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:44:53 PM
Subject: [MW:2231] Re: CHEVRON CRACK

My dear Ali,
1. Heat Input is not the highest in SAW but in more SMAW.
2. On Cheveron Cracking, please see a brief from some of my notes.

Chevron cracking: This type of cracking is unfamiliar in process piping and is mainly confined to thick-wall multipass welds deposited in carbon and carbon-manganese steels and is associated with fabrication of pressure-retaining facilities and heavy structural fabrications. The cracking mechanism is attributed to mishandled / sloppily stored submerged arc flux, which has, therefore, been allowed to absorb moisture. During welding, this moisture dissociates into hydrogen and oxygen. The oxygen may form oxides within the weld, or recombine and evaporate. Hydrogen gets trapped within the weld metal as it cools down and, if a sufficient quantity of hydrogen is available, cracking is likely to occur. The cracks take the shape of a chevron or a V, hence the name chevron cracking.

 Hydrogen or stress are known to trigger these crack (HIC, SCC)..

The marks are formed in brittle failures in plates due to the way the fast moving crack front propagates along the plate as illustrated in the fig. 
The "chevron" marks point to the crack origin.
The exact thickness limits for this behaviour are connected with the fracture toughness of the steel, temperature, etc., depending on the
specific steel and its condition.
 However, a common NDE may not be able
 to readily detect or determine a steel’s / process’s susceptibility to these cracks. To find if a steel is sensitive to this, you must use fracture toughness
 measurement methods like CTOD, etc.
Note : Please see attachment for the fig, I can not post it here.
Best regards,
Shashank Vagal


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From: Ali Asghari <asgha...@rocketmail.com>
Subject: [MW:2228] CHEVRON CRACK
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Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 9:37 AM

 
IN FABRICATION SPECIFICATION OF MY PROJECT SAID THAT:FOR THICKNESS ABOVE 25mm IN SAW,WELD SHALL BE EXAMINED FOR DETECTION OF CHEVRON CRACK BY ULTRASONIC.
ACCORDING TO HEAT INPUT IN SAW IS HIGHER THAN SMAW,WHY IT SAID ONLY IN SAW?



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Dinesh Somwanshi

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Dec 14, 2012, 12:16:55 PM12/14/12
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dear sir,

Generally cheveron cracks comes more than 25mm as results of high deposition rate & high DIA/THK ratio ,there is tendancy of cheveron cracking in saw,

regards

dinesh

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On Saturday, 23 May 2009 08:07:54 UTC+4, Ali Asghari wrote:
 
IN FABRICATION SPECIFICATION OF MY PROJECT SAID THAT:FOR THICKNESS ABOVE 25mm IN SAW,WELD SHALL BE EXAMINED FOR DETECTION OF CHEVRON CRACK BY ULTRASONIC.
ACCORDING TO HEAT INPUT IN SAW IS HIGHER THAN SMAW,WHY IT SAID ONLY IN SAW?

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