low temperature pipe and ASTM A106

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Martin Prad

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Oct 26, 2010, 1:31:33 AM10/26/10
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Hi,
 
What is the real difference of ASTM A333 pipe from ASTM a106grB?
ASTM A333 is a low temperature CS pipe but 106 is not. What is the main features of Low temperature CS steel pipes by their chemical composition and mechanical properties?
Please share your experience on this.
 
Martin.

sujay kumar

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Oct 26, 2010, 1:39:00 AM10/26/10
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Dear Friend,
 
A333  LTCS,its Al killed chemical properties,impcat value is conformed.
if other than more,please let me know about this.
thanks and regards
Sujay

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govindasamy neethipathi

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A106 Grade Carbon steels are called KILLED carbon steel and used for Normal and  Hot services(Temperature ranging between 100 oF - 750 oF .Where as A53 Grade carbon steels were not called as Killed caron steel.

A333 Grade car steels were suitable for Low temperature services.

 

A106 Grade B Carbon Steel Pipes - Pressure and Temperature Ratings

Pressure (psig) and temperature (deg F) ratings of A106 Grade B carbon steel pipes - temperatures ranging 100 oF - 750 oF

Ratings are given for standard seamless pipes at temperatures ranging 100 oF - 750 oF. Ratings in psig based on ANSI/ASME B 31.1.

Maximum Allowable Pressure (psig)
Pipe Size
(inches)
Pipe Schedule Temperature (oF)
100 200 300 400 500 600 650 700 750
1" 401) 2857 2857 2857 2857 2857 2857 2857 2743 2476
802) 3950 3950 3950 3950 3950 3950 3950 3792 3423
160 5757 5757 5757 5757 5757 5757 5757 5526 4989
1 1/2" 40 2116 2116 2116 2116 2116 2116 2116 2032 1834
80 2983 2983 2983 2983 2983 2983 2983 2864 2585
160 4331 4331 4331 4331 4331 4331 4331 4157 3753
2" 40 1783 1783 1783 1783 1783 1783 1783 1712 1545
80 2575 2575 2575 2575 2575 2575 2575 2472 2232
160 4217 4217 4217 4217 4217 4217 4217 4049 3655
3" 40 1693 1693 1693 1693 1693 1693 1693 1625 1467
80 2394 2394 2394 2394 2394 2394 2394 2298 2074
160 3600 3600 3600 3600 3600 3600 3600 3456 3120
4" 40 1435 1435 1435 1435 1435 1435 1435 1378 1244
80 2075 2075 2075 2075 2075 2075 2075 1992 1798
160 3376 3376 3376 3376 3376 3376 3376 3241 2926
5" 40 1258 1258 1258 1258 1258 1258 1258 1208 1090
80 1857 1857 1857 1857 1857 1857 1857 1783 1610
160 3201 3201 3201 3201 3201 3201 3201 3073 2774
6" 40 1143 1143 1143 1143 1143 1143 1143 1098 991
80 1794 1794 1794 1794 1794 1794 1794 1722 1554
160 3083 3083 3083 3083 3083 3083 3083 2960 2672
8" 40 1006 1006 1006 1006 1006 1006 1006 966 872
80 1586 1586 1586 1586 1586 1586 1586 1523 1375
160 2976 2976 2976 2976 2976 2976 2976 2857 2579
10" 40 913 913 913 913 913 913 913 876 791
80 1509 1509 1509 1509 1509 1509 1509 1448 1308
160 2950 2950 2950 2950 2950 2950 2950 2832 2557

1) STD (standard) = schedule 40

2) XS (extra strong) = schedule 80

ASTM A333  Grade Pipes

 

Material standard
ASTM A333——Seamless and Welded Steel Pipe for Low-Temperature Service
Mainly Grade

Grade 1, Grade 3, Grade 4, Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10, Grade 11
 

 

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Features Specifications:

Strike temperature condition

Crade

The lowest temperature for strike test

Grade 1

-50

-45

Grade 3

-150

-100

Grade 4

-150

-100

Grade 6

-50

-45

Grade 7

-100

-75

Grade 8

-320

-195

Grade 9

-100

-75

Grade 10

-75

-60

 

 

 

Standard

Grade

Tensile StrengthMPa

Yield PointMPa

Elongation(%)

Y

X

ASTM A333

Grade 1

≥380

≥205

≥35

≥25

Grade 3

≥450

≥240

≥30

≥20

Grade 4

≥415

≥240

≥30

≥16.5

Grade 6

≥415

≥240

≥30

≥16.5

Grade 7

≥450

≥240

≥30

≥22

Grade 8

≥690

≥515

≥22

 

Grade 9

≥435

≥315

≥28

 

Grade 10

≥550

≥450

≥22

 

Grade 11

≥450

≥240

≥18

 

 

Standard

Grade

Chemical Composition(%)

C

Si

Mn

P

S

Cr

Ni

Cu

Mo

V

Al

ASTM A333

Grade 1

≤0.30

 

0.401.06

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grade 3

≤0.19

0.180.37

0.310.64

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

3.183.82

 

 

 

 

Grade 4

≤0.12

0.180.37

0.501.05

≤0.025

≤0.025

0.441.01

0.470.98

0.400.75

 

 

0.040.30

Grade 6

≤0.30

≥0.10

0.291.06

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grade 7

≤0.19

0.130.32

≤0.90

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

2.032.57

 

 

 

 

Grade 8

≤0.13

0.130.32

≤0.90

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

8.409.60

 

 

 

 

Grade 9

≤0.20

 

0.401.06

≤0.025

≤0.025

 

1.602.24

0.751.25

 

 

 

Grade 10

≤0.20

0.100.35

1.151.50

≤0.03

≤0.015

≤0.15

≤0.25

≤0.015

≤0.50

≤0.12

≤0.06

Grade 11

≤0.10

≤0.35

≤0.6

≤0.025

≤0.025

≤0.50

35.037.0

 

≤0.50

 

 



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Ahmed Husain

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:41:55 AM10/26/10
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Dear Friends,

 

 ASME II,A106 para 5.1

 Hot-finished pipe need not be heat treated. Colddrawn

pipe shall be heat treated after the final cold draw

pass at a temperature of 1200°F (650°C) or higher

ASME II SA333/SA333M Para 4.2

All seamless and welded pipe, other than

Grades 8 and 11, shall be treated to control their microstructure.

 

So the main feature of LTCS is that all the pipes are heat treated to control their micro structure

 

 

Ahmed Husain




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Martin Prad

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Oct 26, 2010, 7:58:54 AM10/26/10
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Dear sir,
 
I know that it is a LTCS. Please see below the properties of them separately extracted from the material certificate.
 
ASTM A333 Gr.6
Chemical composition
C-0.16, Si-0.19, Mn-1.03, P-0.010, S-0.003, Cr-0.18 and etc....
Mechanical properties
YS-315 mpa
TS-478 mpa
Heat treatment condition
Normalised at 920 degree C
 
ASTM A106 Gr.B
Chemical composition
C-0.15, Si-0.15, Mn-1.05, P-0.020, S-0.010, Cr-0.20, Ni-0.020 and others
Mechanical properties
YS-295 mpa
TS-515 mpa
Heat treatment condition
Hot finished
 
As you see there is no major difference between these two pipe grades by chemical composition and mechanical properties. therefore the question I would formulate as follows:
 
1. If the above parameters are similar why we can not use 106 gr b pipe in low temperature service?
2. Which mettalurgical or chemical process makes the pipe LTCS?
 
Thanks.


 

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:04:38 +0300
Subject: Re: [MW:7823] low temperature pipe and ASTM A106
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A106 Grade Carbon steels are called KILLED carbon steel and used for Normal and  Hot services(Temperature ranging between 100 oF - 750 oF .Where as A53 Grade carbon steels were not called as Killed caron steel.

A333 Grade car steels were suitable for Low temperature services.

 

A106 Grade B Carbon Steel Pipes - Pressure and Temperature Ratings

Pressure (psig) and temperature (deg F) ratings of A106 Grade B carbon steel pipes - temperatures ranging 100 oF - 750 oF

Ratings are given for standard seamless pipes at temperatures ranging 100 oF - 750 oF. Ratings in psig based on ANSI/ASME B 31.1.
 
1) STD (standard) = schedule 40
2) XS (extra strong) = schedule 80

ASTM A333  Grade Pipes

 

Material standard嚙瘦
ASTM A333嚙碼嚙碼Seamless and Welded Steel Pipe for Low-Temperature Service
Mainly Grade
嚙瘦


Grade 1, Grade 3, Grade 4, Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10, Grade 11
 

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Martin Prad <marti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
What is the real difference of ASTM A333 pipe from ASTM a106grB?
ASTM A333 is a low temperature CS pipe but 106 is not. What is the main features of Low temperature CS steel pipes by their chemical composition and mechanical properties?
Please share your experience on this.
 
Martin.

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Richard Bonardo

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Oct 27, 2010, 12:19:19 AM10/27/10
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Martin :

From the chemical composition point of view there is no significant difference between both material.
However, to be classified as LTCS one manufacturer shall conduct additional impact test in a certain low temperature,as mandated in section 8 of ASTM A 333, where as you can compare ASTM A106 does not requires such test.

Vice versa, to be classified as A 106 (high temperature service) codes require material withstand more stringent test at high temperature.

Please take a look at ASME sec II part D here you can see at 550 C A106 "still" has recommended tensile strenght of  11.2 Mpa, while A333 only recomended up to 375 C

other member please correct me if i'm wrong.

Regards
Bonardo




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Sent: Tue, 26 October, 2010 6:58:54 PM
Subject: RE: [MW:7834] low temperature pipe and ASTM A106

Material standard
ASTM A333——Seamless and Welded Steel Pipe for Low-Temperature Service
Mainly Grade


Grade 1, Grade 3, Grade 4, Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10, Grade 11
 

 

 


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Martin Prad <marti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
What is the real difference of ASTM A333 pipe from ASTM a106grB?
ASTM A333 is a low temperature CS pipe but 106 is not. What is the main features of Low temperature CS steel pipes by their chemical composition and mechanical properties?
Please share your experience on this.
 
Martin.

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Ahmed Husain

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Oct 27, 2010, 12:06:22 AM10/27/10
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Dear Mr. Martin,

 

LTCS have high toughness value because of heat treatment (normalizing above 800C and quenching) they undergo during manufacturing process. Other wise chemical and tensile properties are in the same range.
 

Regards,

Ahmed Husain
Mob-0547170325


Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 2:58:54 PM
Subject: RE: [MW:7834] low temperature pipe and ASTM A106

Material standard
ASTM A333——Seamless and Welded Steel Pipe for Low-Temperature Service
Mainly Grade


Grade 1, Grade 3, Grade 4, Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10, Grade 11
 

 

 


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Martin Prad <marti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
What is the real difference of ASTM A333 pipe from ASTM a106grB?
ASTM A333 is a low temperature CS pipe but 106 is not. What is the main features of Low temperature CS steel pipes by their chemical composition and mechanical properties?
Please share your experience on this.
 
Martin.

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israr

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Is there below 2'' pipe of material SA 333 Gr.6 supply in hot finish condition?

Chaudhary Zafar Iqbal

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Aug 27, 2025, 11:29:16 AM (11 days ago) Aug 27
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Dear 

 
ASTM A333 and ASTM A106 are both carbon steel pipe specifications, but they serve different purposes and have distinct characteristics.

ASTM A333 pipes are designed for low-temperature service, typically below -50°F (-45°C). They are made from low-temperature carbon steel and are suitable for applications where the pipes will be exposed to cold temperatures.

ASTM A106 pipes, on the other hand, are suitable for high-temperature service and are often used in power plants, refineries, and other high-temperature applications.

The main differences between A333 and A106 pipes are:

1.Temperature range: A333 pipes are designed for low temperatures, while A106 pipes are suitable for higher temperatures.
2. Material composition: A333 pipes have a specific chemical composition that ensures low-temperature toughness, while A106 pipes have a different composition that prioritizes high-temperature strength.
3. Mechanical properties: A333 pipes have specific requirements for impact testing and notch toughness, which are not required for A106 pipes.

Regarding SA 333 Gr.6 pipes below 2" in hot-finished condition, it's possible to supply them in this condition. However, it's essential to verify the specific requirements of your project or application to ensure compliance.

In terms of chemical composition and mechanical properties, low-temperature CS steel pipes like A333 typically have:

1)Lower carbon content to improve toughness
2)Specific requirements for manganese, silicon, and other elements to enhance low-temperature properties
3)Impact testing requirements to ensure toughness at low temperatures

A106 pipes, on the other hand, prioritize high-temperature strength and may have different chemical composition and mechanical property requirements.

Your experience with these pipes will depend on your specific application and industry. 

Regards

Ch Zafar


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