13% Cr steel valve trims
ravi kiran yeleswarapu
Gents,
Please share your views on following:
"As per specs valve trims are required to be of 13% Cr steel" no further details given w.r.t. material specs nor clarified with client then.
However vendor has supplied A276-316 for stem and A351 CF8M for disc.
Are above acceptable as per spec of 13% cr steel.
As per client's interpretation of 13% Cr steel means AISI 410 or equivalent but not 316.
Ravikiran
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khalid iqbal
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Ravi, pl. have a look into the various API / BS stds to have an idea of various trim numbers and the base material types. And the various material specification classified by the manufacturing/fabrication method.
And you have to give your acceptance or decision on trim based on the Standard, the valve is designed and the trim no. specified in your specs.
For eg. look into API 594 page.10 table.3 for check valves.
Selection of trim itself is based on
1) Fluid service characteristics.(Velocity, liq.phase, gas phase, slurry type, corrosiveness and other special cases)
2) Leakage allowance / tighness requirement of the system like the ESD.
3) Torqing also controls the trim selection in case of MOVs.
4) Physical fabrication constriants.
5) Pressure/temperature rating.
6) Life of the trim due to service and functioning issues like clattering and slamming.
7) Not the least, valve size & the cost factor.
The above are to the extend I have faced in pratice.
However as a design engineer you are not prevented to use something not part of the standard trim table if your manufacturer proposes and you are satisfied in the best interest of your client. Sometimes you have to listen to the manufacturer as they are the specialist's in that subject.
With regards,
Kannan Sundaram.
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Dear Ravi,
If a steel contains 13% Cr. it means it is stainless Steel.
The material specifications provided by your vendor are adequate. You may even use SS304 grade.
Regards,
ravi kiran yeleswarapu <kir...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Gents,
Please share your views on following:
"As per specs valve trims are required to be of 13% Cr steel" no further details given w.r.t. material specs nor clarified with client then.
However vendor has supplied A276-316 for stem and A351 CF8M for disc.
Are above acceptable as per spec of 13% cr steel.
As per client's interpretation of 13% Cr steel means AISI 410 or equivalent but not 316.
Best regards,
Ravikiran
Jayesh Dave
The basic difference is that 316 is austenitic SS v/s 13Cr gives a martensitic stainless steel - for valve seat applications, hardness is the main requirement hence the substitution with any other type of martensitic type SS will be accepted.
regards,
Jayesh
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:15:53 -0800
From: kiq...@yahoo.com
Subject: [MW:604] Re: 13% Cr steel valve trims
Dear Ravi,If a steel contains 13% Cr. it means it is stainless Steel.The material specifications provided by your vendor are adequate. You may even use SS304 grade.
Gents,Best regards,
Please share your views on following:
"As per specs valve trims are required to be of 13% Cr steel" no further details given w.r.t. material specs nor clarified with client then.
However vendor has supplied A276-316 for stem and A351 CF8M for disc.
Are above acceptable as per spec of 13% cr steel.
As per client's interpretation of 13% Cr steel means AISI 410 or equivalent but not 316.
Ravikiran
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malireddy satyanarayana
Dear All,
First of all 316 is not substitute for 13CR (410).316 will not with stand the wear resistance.So that please instruct the vendor to supply 13cr only.Temporary basis you can use 316 but immediately you have to replace at next available ooertunity.
Thanks and best regards
Satya
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 Jayesh Dave wrote :
>The basic difference is that 316 is austenitic SS v/s 13Cr gives a martensitic stainless steel - for valve seat applications, hardness is the main requirement hence the substitution with any other type of martensitic type SS will be accepted.
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>regards,
>Jayesh
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>Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:15:53 -0800From: kiq...@yahoo.comSubject: [MW:604] Re: 13% Cr steel valve trimsTo: material...@googlegroups.com; piping...@yahoogroups.com
>Dear Ravi,
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>If a steel contains 13% Cr. it means it is stainless Steel.
>The material specifications provided by your vendor are adequate. You may even use SS304 grade.
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>Regards, ravi kiran yeleswarapu <kir...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
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>Gents,Please share your views on following:"As per specs valve trims are required to be of 13% Cr steel" no further details given w.r.t. material specs nor clarified with client then.However vendor has supplied A276-316 for stem and A351 CF8M for disc.Are above acceptable as per spec of 13% cr steel.As per client's interpretation of 13% Cr steel means AISI 410 or equivalent but not 316. Best regards, Ravikiran
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