Expiry period for SMAW consumable-reg

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Pandiaraj

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Jan 30, 2011, 11:05:48 PM1/30/11
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Dear Experts,
generally what is expiry period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME Sec II-C refers regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the consumable wraper only manufactured date is given but not the expiry date.

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K.Pandiarajan.


Suresh

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Jan 31, 2011, 12:15:15 AM1/31/11
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Hii
 
Generally Consumable expiry date is up to 2 monsoons,or Manufacturer should specify in Batch/Lot certificate .



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Kathalingam Babu

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Jan 31, 2011, 12:35:43 AM1/31/11
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Hi
 
There is no expiry date for the consumables.
 
You can use the consumables , as long as the condition is good.
 
May be you need to get approvals for the batch's if the approval is expired for the concerned consumables lot
 
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K. Babu

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muthu barathi

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Jan 31, 2011, 3:34:27 AM1/31/11
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It is as per manufacturer's recommendation

no codes define


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Hi

There is no expiry date for the consumables.

You can use the consumables , as long as the condition is
good.

May be you need to get approvals for the batch's if the
approval is expired for the concerned consumables lot

Thanks & Regards,

K. Babu

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Hii

Generally Consumable expiry date is up to 2 monsoons,or Manufacturer
should specify in Batch/Lot certificate .
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Dear Experts,
> generally what is expiry
period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME Sec II-C refers
regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the consumable
wraper only manufactured date is
given but not the expiry date.
>
>Thanks &
Regards,
>
>K.Pandiarajan.
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PREM SHANKARDUTT NAUTIYAL

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Jan 31, 2011, 4:48:15 AM1/31/11
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Hi

Pl. browse the reply already given in earlier thread - MW:4205 :

It’s true that boiler or pressure vessel codes or structural welding codes do not specify the shelf-life or expiry dates of welding electrodes.
For example, ASME Nuclear Codes Sec-III, Clause & NB, NC-2440 specifies that:- Suitable storage and handling of electrodes, flux, and other welding materials shall be maintained. Precautions shall be taken to minimize absorption of moisture by fluxes and cored, fabricated, and coated electrodes.

The shelf-life of welding electrodes to a great extent depends on electrode manufacturer’s methods, quality control procedure and how electrodes are handled. Depending on the coating type, packing (hermetically sealed or not), storing methods and ambient conditions, humidity etc, electrodes may last long or less. However as a good practice and based on electrode manufacturer’s guidelines it may be worth considering:-

· Solid Wires, GTAW/GMAW-No shelf Life.

· Cored Wire –FCAW- No shelf life

· SMAW – The rule should be FIFO (First in First Out). Electrodes where the coating shows sign of flaking, cracks etc certainly should be discarded without much thoughts. Electrodes not older than 2-3 years but in good condition may be used. If required the diffusible hydrogen test could be repeated. Electrodes older than 3 years generally should not be used as a good engineering rule.

· SAW Fluxes- Shelf life 2-3 years maximum subject to the flux condition and amount of fine particles/dust generated and behavior during welding.
Thanks.
Pradip Goswami, P.Eng



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Dear Mr Pradip,

 

                         Yes your statement is perfectly correct.

 

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sambath kumar

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Jan 31, 2011, 12:23:56 PM1/31/11
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Hi,

There is no code specify the shelf life of electrode, its depends on
the manufacturer recommendation.

I had also faced the problem with Lincoln electrodes certificates, as
they mention in the lot certificates in 1 year. So raised the quarry
in Lincoln Company about the shelf life of electrode; accordingly they
send the warranty/validity certificate (Here I attached the attached
warranty/validity certificates & lot certificates -for your
information)

So when ever you face the shelf life problem with electrode kindly
contact the manufacturer and get the validity confirmation from the
company. its the only record or proof of electrode shelf life and
solution.


Rgs,
Sambath Kumar

> * Solid Wires, GTAW/GMAW-No shelf Life.
>
> * Cored Wire -FCAW- No shelf life
>
> * SMAW - The rule should be FIFO (First in First Out). Electrodes where the


> coating shows sign of flaking, cracks etc certainly should be discarded
> without much thoughts. Electrodes not older than 2-3 years but in good
> condition may be used. If required the diffusible hydrogen test could be
> repeated. Electrodes older than 3 years generally should not be used as a
> good engineering rule.
>

> * SAW Fluxes- Shelf life 2-3 years maximum subject to the flux condition and


> amount of fine particles/dust generated and behavior during welding.
> Thanks.
> Pradip Goswami, P.Eng
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Prem Nautiyal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:48:41 +0530 wrote
>>Dear Experts,
>
> generally what is expiry period for SMAw consumables (Flux coated) dose ASME
> Sec II-C refers regarding this, if so please refer which class.in the
> consumable wraper only manufactured date is given but not the expiry date.
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
>
>
> K.Pandiarajan.
>
>
>
>
>
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