Renewal &Continunity of welder qualification

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yahya albalushi

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Mar 29, 2012, 7:00:35 AM3/29/12
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Gents,

For the welder who has been doing production weld for the last 6
months since his qualification test,Where his company keeping his
performance record.what are the required continuation documents to be
provided to the client in each 6 months? overmore, does his WQT record
needs to be renewed by means of getting stamp of clients QC to
validate his qualification?

Regards,

Yahya
QC(PIPING)
Oman

mohd firdaus abd rahim

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Mar 29, 2012, 12:50:08 PM3/29/12
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As per my understanding there is no need to get renewal of WQT if the welder still work at the same company of the WQT he attend. only required if the welder work with other company for a duration 6 month above then he needs to get renewal. if you want prove to your client for your welder performance, do PRODUCTION TEST.

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John Henning

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Mar 29, 2012, 1:16:53 PM3/29/12
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If you are going by ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, there are no
requirements (Interpretation IX-95-38) provided by ScIX on how or when
continuity is to be recorded. ScIX only states that the weldor is
qualified for 6 months from the last time he used the PROCESS
(Interpretation IX-10-17).

Below is the HSB(r) information on IX-95-38:

ASME Code Interpretations

Status: Currently Valid
Status Description:


Interpretation: IX-95-38
Subject: Section IX, QW-322, Expiration and Renewal of Qualification
Date Issued: January 6, 1997
File Number: BC96-132
Related Documents:

Question: Is it a requirement of QW-322 for a manufacturer to maintain
records to demonstrate a welder's or welding operator's continuing
qualification for a process from the date of the original qualification
test?

Reply: Section IX does not address how conformance to QW-322 is
demonstrated. Other book sections may address the maintenance of
records.

The above interpretation was transcribed by HSB Code Services from the
official publications [ASME published volumes, National Board,
Eurodyne]. Although every effort was made to accurately reproduce this
interpretation, use of this information should be for research only. It
is strongly recommended that the official published document be used for
Code business.


What I do is scan the weldors records each month and record in a
database the last use of the process for each month. I include the
drawing number for the work he was involved in. From this data I can
pull any QA records for the weld if necessary to satisfy a customer or
their inspector.

EN specs are more prescriptive then ASME and require the continuity weld
to be of the same type as the qualifying weld, to be volumetrically
examined, etc.

John A. Henning
Welding & Materials

Gents,

Regards,

Yahya
QC(PIPING)
Oman

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yahya albalushi

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Mar 29, 2012, 2:16:34 PM3/29/12
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Thanks John,
 
I do know about the 6 months renewal of qualification if the welder did not weld.But specificaly I am asking about the welder who is continuing production weld for the last 6 months since his qualification date.
 
My doubts are:
1.I was working with my former employer where we used to get monthly welder performance recod + when a welder complets 6 months from his qualification date ,the contractor QC used to bring a record of his accepted weld joints within the last 3 months so we as a client QC RENEW the welder card by means of  giving company's stamp & signeture so he becoms renewed to carry on welding for the next 6 months.over more, If we find a welder in the field doing welding without Welder ID we suspend him from welding unless his card with him.Even though we know his performance is satisfactory .
2. I am now with new employer where I noticed the welders cards without renewual date .Since then I started to assume that they must be renewed as what I used to do with the former employer.
3.I fully understand that when a welder is welding for the last 6 months doesn't need requalification nor test if his performance is good.the only thing is what I requir is to be provided with Continuty of welder qualification record by means of doing the same as per point No 1 above.
4- I know it would be confusing or not required to do so as long Sec IX dosn't mention such a thing in regard to contractor providin Contiuty of welder qualification to the client in case of welders used to weld for the last 6 month.But Sec IX mentioned in QW.300.3 that welders continuty record to be provided.
5. It would be my own interpretation for the code or my former employer practic in this regard.
 
lastly,
Currently, We have more than one contractor where all are providing us with welder Continuty of qualification record to be signed each 6 month for the welder who are producing weld for the last 6 months.
 
 
Regards,
 
Yahya

2012/3/29 John Henning <jhen...@deltak.com>

James cyrilandrew

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Mar 31, 2012, 7:59:02 AM3/31/12
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Dear Friend,
           as per my understanding the welder should be renewed with NDT report. and that NDT report shall be signed by any client for evidence. we have to attach the report with the welder performance record and renew with date of renewal and date of next expiry.
Actually speaking we have to maintain welder history record. from that any client could understand this welder is capable to give good weld. i hope u could catch me. thank you.



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kashif syed

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Apr 1, 2012, 3:59:28 AM4/1/12
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Dear all,
           As per my knowledge of codes a welder can be qualified after 6 months on the basis of NDT Tracebilty records that can be reviewing the radiographs of welder who has welded on a particular job and if it is reviewed and found satisfactory by the TPI, then the continuity can be extended n the welder is qulalified to work further.


Thanks & regards,

Syed kashif farhan
QA/QC ENGINEER

John Henning

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:37:04 AM4/2/12
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Yahya

 

Recording of WPQ tests and continuity is to be done per the QC program of the company.  It is the company’s responsibility to assure that weldors are properly qualified.  There are a lot of ways to achieve this end.  Certainly one method is to have individual summary cards updated as appropriate.  But there are other ways to accomplish the same end.  I would expect the QC inspector to verify the methodology specified by the QC manual 1) meets Code required interval and 2) is being implemented and properly maintained.  Our Authorized Inspector reviews our records at 6 month intervals but I maintain records and issue a report to manufacturing personnel monthly.  In our case, weldors are expected to be aware of their qualifications and continuity but it is the supervisor who is responsible for assuring that the weldor is qualified for the job assigned.

 

John A. Henning

Welding & Materials

 

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