Lethal service requirement

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sachin sankhe

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Apr 2, 2016, 3:31:07 AM4/2/16
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Dear Friends,

Need your opinion on below

Equipment
Columns

Design Code

ASME SEC VIII Div.1

Process 

High Wet H2S service(NACE)
Wet Amine service
Very Toxic
Lethal(ASME SEC VIII, UW-2)

Metallurgy/Thk
Base Metal MOC=SA516 Gr.70
Thk=8mm
Clad MOC=SS316L
Clad thk=3mm

Problem
Is PWHT mandatory for clad vessel for above process condition?
For lethal service is PWHT not mandatory for clad vessel as per Table UCS56.1 Note (e)

Regards
Sachin Sankhe






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pgoswami

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Apr 3, 2016, 12:11:47 AM4/3/16
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Hi Sachin,

 

I hope API RECOMMENDED PRACTICE 945, Avoiding Environmental Cracking in Amine Units is refereed in the drawings. This is an essential document for amine service .As per this document use of austenitic S.S (304L/316L) clad steel is often done for amine plant equipments, for specific set of design conditions. That’s well taken care of in the details provided below.

 

As regarding fabrication, PWHT requirement is governed by the thickness of the backing material Carbon Steel, for regular amine service. From that aspect had this been a normal Amine vessel with 316L clad, exemption from PWHT would have been possible for 8 mm of C.S wall thickness.

 

Sec-VIII, UW-2 refers to mandatory PWHT for C.S/LAS vessels in “Lethal Service” . The same concept is applicable for clad vessels also, involving lethal service. Please see the latest ASME Code interpretations as below. Note there are two answers. My interpretation is to go with tracking No 9980 (since it’s latest and more detailed)

 

Hope this would help.

 

Thanks.

 

 


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Vijay Patre

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Apr 3, 2016, 1:34:10 AM4/3/16
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Dear Sachin,
Check your project specification & process data sheet requirements.

Technically you can perform perform PWHT.

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Vijay Patre

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Apr 3, 2016, 1:44:56 AM4/3/16
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why do want PWHT for 8mm thick??

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KG.PANDITHAN, IWE,  AWS-CWI, CSWIP 3.1,
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prem_nautiyal26

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Apr 3, 2016, 3:07:40 AM4/3/16
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As per UW-2 PWHT shall be carried out.
Hope the same is carried out in WPS / PQR.
 
Regards 

Prem Nautiyal
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From: sachin sankhe
Date:01/04/2016 12:25 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [MW:24612] Lethal service requirement

José Juan Jiménez Alejandro

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dili...@gmail.com

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Apr 4, 2016, 12:41:33 AM4/4/16
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Lethal service=high risk

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Apr 4, 2016, 12:41:36 AM4/4/16
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The overlay us exempted but not the CS which is the stress bearing part.

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