Blind thickness design

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anishdev

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Feb 13, 2012, 1:22:17 PM2/13/12
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Dear all,

                Can someone help me to calculate the blind flange thickness for hydrostatic testing.

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Anish Dev.S

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anas k

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Feb 14, 2012, 12:25:06 AM2/14/12
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Dear Anish Dev,
Please find below
CALCULATION FOR THE BLIND FLANGE:

(AS PER ASME BOILER AND PRESSURE VESSEL CODE /   VIII DIV I)

 

The blind flange is attached by bolts causing an edge moment (Fig.  UG- 34. /sketch j) in which the thickness can be calculated by :

                     

  t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….Formula (2) (From ASME UG-34)

 

Where,

d=   Diameter or short span, measured as indicated in Fig. UG-34

E=   Joint efficiency, from Table UW-12, of any category A weld as defined in UG-

       3(a)

 

S=   Maximum allowable stress value in tension from applicable table of value       

       Referenced by UG-23

 

W=  Total bolt load (From pipe data pro)

 

hg=  Gasket moment arm, equal to the radial distance from the centerline of the

         bolts to the line of the gasket reaction, Table 2-5.2

 

P =  Design pressure-HYDROTEST pressure is considered (13.5 bar (g))

 

C =  0.3 From Fig UG-34(j)

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE 32” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

  t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=     876.5 mm

 C=    0.3

P =   13.76 kg/sq cm

E =   1

W =  94 KG

hg=  50.75 mm

 S =  25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

          t   = 876.5*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*94*98)/ (1757*1*876.5^3)] ½

               =  42.48mm or 42.5 mm

 

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 32” blind flange is :

 t = 42.48 mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE 36” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

  t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=     978.2 mm

 C=    0.3

P =   13.76 kg/sq cm

E =   1

W =  117 KG

hg=  53.25 mm

 S =  25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

          t   = 978.2*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*117*98)/ (1757*1*978.2^3)] ½

               =  47.41mm or 47.5 mm

 

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 36” blind flange is :

 t = 47.41 mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE 38” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

  t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=     1038 mm

 C=    0.3

P =   13.76 kg/sq cm

E =   1

W =  132 KG

hg=  55.5 mm

 S =  25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

          t   = 1038*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*132*98)/ (1757*1*1038^3)] ½

               =  50.31mm or 50.5 mm

 

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 38” blind flange is :

 t = 50.31 mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE 44” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

  t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=     1118 mm

 C=    0.3

P =   13.76 kg/sq cm

E =   1

W =  178 KG

hg=  98 mm

 S =  25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

          t   = 1118*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*178*98)/ (1757*1*1118^3)] ½

               = 54.19 mm

 

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 44” blind flange is :

 t = 54.19 mm

 

 

 

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE 46” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

 t = d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=    1168 mm

C=    0.3

P =   13.76 kg/sq cm

E =   1

W =  180 KG

hg=  98.5 mm

 S =   25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

       t   = 1168*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*180*98.5)/ (1757*1*11168^3)] ½

            = 57 mm

 

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 46” blind flange is :

   t = 57 mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

THICKNESS CALCULATION FOR THE  48” BLIND FLANGE :

Using the above formula (2)

t= d *(CP/SE+1.9W hg/SE*d^3) ½     ……………….formula (2) (from ASME UG 34)

d=   1219 mm

C=   0.3

P =  13.76 kg/sq cm

E =  1

W = 202 KG

hg= 101.5 mm

S =  25 ksi = 1757 kg/sq.cm

Substituting the above values in Formula (2),

        t    = 1219*[(0.3*13.76/1757*1) + (1.9*202*101.5)/ (1757*1*1219^3)] ½

             = 59.09 = 59 mm

Therefore from the above calculation, the minimum thickness required for the 48” blind flange is :

  t = 59 mm

Conclusion:

Since from the above calculation, 50 mm plate thickness required for the 32”, 36” & 38” with stress ration as 1.0

And 60mm thick plate is required for  44”, 46”, 48” blind flanges at 13.5 bar (g) hydro test pressure and at ambient temperature.

 

However if the thickness of the blind flange is less than required then additional reinforcements or stiffeners has to be provided.

 



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kukuh prahara

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Feb 13, 2012, 11:22:59 PM2/13/12
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Anish,

 

You can use below formula

 

 

 

 


Thanks,

Kukuh

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santhosh kumar

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Feb 14, 2012, 1:45:35 AM2/14/12
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Dear Anish

The Blind flange is selected based on the dia of the nozzle nozzle,
hydro pressure.But if you dont know, use blind flange thickness
equivalent to attachment flange thickness(not neck thk).

Regards

Santhosh

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Feb 14, 2012, 5:57:16 AM2/14/12
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Pls. use this one.

 

Best Regards,
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anishdev

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Feb 14, 2012, 12:22:23 PM2/14/12
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Thanks kukuh,

Can you please define the legends

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kukuh prahara

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Feb 15, 2012, 1:09:17 AM2/15/12
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Anish,

 

Sorry for incomplete reply, please find below:

 

 

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manpreet

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Feb 15, 2012, 5:59:12 AM2/15/12
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Hi,

Nobody would be able to answer this unless required information is provided, Which Class,
Material, Size, pressure and temperature...

Please refer ASME B16.5, you will note that Table 22 has maximum size listed as 12" for #2500.
For all other Classes (upto #1500) maximum size is listed as 24".

If your design criteria falls within ASME B16.5 range then Simply Purchase Blind Flange in
accordance with ASME B16.5.

If not then refer ASME Sec Viii Div 1 UG-34 to calculate Blind Flange thickness, Usually it
would not be an easy exercise for a beginner but if you insist, i can send you some
calculations done in my current project (Give me your personnel e-mail ID).

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Manpreet Singh
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Dear Anish

Can you check in ASME SEC VIII Div -1 IN UG 34 C2, calculate the
flange thickness.

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Arunachalam A

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Feb 15, 2012, 8:33:02 AM2/15/12
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You may use the attached file.
It is given for NPS Vs Thickness and allowable pressure.
 
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:22 PM, anishdev <anis...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Umar Farooq

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Dear Anish,

How did you calculate the value of d? Is it pipe outer dia (in case of pipe).
And which formula you have used for calculating Hg and W?
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