Lethal Service / ASME Sec VIII Div 1

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Vino Varghese

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Mar 28, 2011, 1:39:31 AM3/28/11
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Dear All,
 
We are maufacturing a U-Stamp Pressure Vessel in accordance to ASME Sec VIII, Div 1.
Service: Sour Service
 
Query: How can you differentiate between an Sour Service with Lethal Service?
All Lethal Service requires PWHT and 100% RT for butt welds for Pressure Parts.
 
Do all Sour Service are Lethal in Nature?
 
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Vino - Doha
 
 

Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)

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Mar 28, 2011, 2:08:50 AM3/28/11
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No(refer note under UW2), it shall be the responsibility of the user and/or his designated agent to determine if it is lethal. If determined as lethal, the user and/or his designated agent [see U-2(a)] shall so advise the designer and/or Manufacturer. It shall be the responsibility of the Manufacturer to comply with the applicable Code provisions.

Imran Shaikh

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Mar 28, 2011, 2:11:49 AM3/28/11
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Gentlemen,

 

 

Sour serive & lethal service are totally different terms. A sour service vessel can be of non-lethal.

 

Please refer below definitions extracted from Specification.

 

Wet Sour Service:  Following process streams containing water and hydrogen sulfide: i) Sour water with a hydrogen sulfide (H2S) concentration above 2 mg/L (2 ppm) and a total pressure of 400 kPa absolute (65 psia) or greater. ii) Hydrocarbon services meeting the definition of sour environments in  SAES-A-301, where the H2S concentration of 2 mg/L (2 ppm) or more in the water phase is equivalent to H2S partial pressure of 0.05 psia.  Sour crude systems upstream of a stabilization facility and sour gas upstream of a sweetening or dehydration plant are examples of such environments. iii) Hydrocarbon systems exposed to an environment with a H2S concentration above 50 mg/L (50 ppm) in the water phase, regardless of H2S partial pressure. (As per Aramco Specification)

 

Lethal Service are meant use of poisonous gases or liquids of such a nature that a very small amount of the gas or of the vapor of the liquid mixed or unmixed with air is dangerous to life when inhaled ( As per UW-2, ASME SecVIII, DIv.1)


 
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