Post Heating(DHT) requirement for SA 387 GR 12 CL2 LOW ALLOY MATERIAL

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Vijay Katkar

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Feb 4, 2012, 12:06:17 PM2/4/12
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Dear All,
Regarding post heat treatment(DHT) for SA 387 GR 12 CL2 Low alloy steel material,
I have PQR'S with post heating a temperature of 300 Degree C for 2 Hrs,
My question are,
1) Is it possible to make WPS (production weld) without post heating(DHT)?
2) Is it any code(ASME SEC VIII or IX) call for DHT after welding? 
3) Why we have to do DHT, if it is required?
4) Is it any where mentioned that the SA 387 GR 12 CL2 material is required post heating(DHT)?
we are doing DHT because avoid cold cracking(Hydrogen cracking) in weld and HAZ . any other major reason to carry out DHT for low alloy steel.

Kindly provide your valuable guidance/ advice/ experiance on this subject.
 
Regards

Vijay Katkar 

pgoswami

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Feb 5, 2012, 12:48:00 PM2/5/12
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Hi Vijay,

The purpose of DHT is to drive out hydrogen to minimize the risk of hydrogen cracking, and to minimize problems due to low as-welded toughness. This is a suggested practice in API-934C. The DHT should be performed at a minimum metal temperature of 570 °F (300 °C) for duration of one hour minimum(934C).

ASME Sec-IX addresses DHT as post-heating. The prime function of this practice is to dissipate the diffusible hydrogen in the weld metal. Many a time if the section thickness is less (typically below 2 inch or below) and if welding consumables are properly conditioned as per manufacturer's recommendations this practice of DHT/Post Heating  may be avoided.

However if the section thickness of the equipment is large (typically 3" and above) and intended service would hydrogen related services (which is to be confirmed by the client), DHT would a good and recommended practice.

Note:-This is a not an  essential variable.Addition or deletion would not call for requalification of welding procedures. However if DHT was  followed during PQR qualification and if project technical requirement incorporates API 934C specification, DHT needs to be performed in the production welds also.

Thanks.

Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE

Welding & Metallurgical Specialist & Consultant

Ontario, Canada.

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manpreet

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Feb 8, 2012, 12:57:44 AM2/8/12
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Hi Vijay,

ASME Sec Viii Div 1 UCS-56 calls for PWHT at min. 650 deg C for P No 4, Class 1/2, if thickness
is above 16mm (refer Note 2).

As reported by you, PQR mention PWHT of 300 Deg C which is not code complaint of base metal
thickness is above 16mm.
PWHT requirements are generally 1,150 to 1,400 F (621 to 760 C) for one hour. PWHT helps rid
the weld of hydrogen that may have been picked up from the filler metal, the base metal, or the
atmosphere and can help minimize the chances of cracking. Most low-alloy filler metals designed
for chrome-moly applications also come with recommended stress-relieving temperatures and
durations, either on the package label or on the included specification sheet.

Does your application require Impact testing? if yes then I suggest plates must be ordered with
Quench and Temper Heat Treatment, Extended time at PWHT has detrimental effect on impact values
therefore Plates must be ordered with expected PWHT cycles (min 2, accounting PWHT repair),
Usually client specification would entail these requirements.

Please refer ASME Sec ix QW-407 for P no. 4, if you qualify PQR with PWHT @300 Deg C, then
production welding must not exceed lower transformation temperature and also QW-407.2 for PWHT repairs.

ASTM A387 implies that Tempering temperature shall be min.620 deg C, whatever it is but make
sure "Tempering Temperature is 30 deg C above PWHT Temperature".

Please notify if above does not make sense to you.

Regards
Manpreet Singh



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Mr. Goswami,

I have one basic question related to API 934 A & C which require DHT if one cannot maintain the preheat temperature till PWHT or one cannot PWHT the component immediately after welding. This is not practical in many cases. So my question is if we have to DHT after welding cylinders or nozzles etc. or Tubesheet overlay, can we allow for some time lapse between the welding activity and DHT?  And if yes how long one can wait. I would greatly appreciate your response.

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Amit Parchure 
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